Active-duty troops may not be used for law enforcement in USA

[Rightguide]

Yeah, the situation would be better if they took the money they are spending on the military sitting around the border and hiring more people to process the asylum requests. Then those that aren't going to get in will know and can start looking for work or go back to the interior of Mexico to look for work. The longer all those people are sitting around waiting, the larger chance there will be issues.

A better solution is to make it a felony to knowingly hire an illegal alien in the United States with mandatory prison time on the second offense.

 

[Rightguide]

Show us an invading army, and you'll get an answer.

There doesn't have to be an "invading army" only a threat to the national security at our border is all the President needs to declare the border a military zone of operations and do just that.

 

[srgreene]

There doesn't have to be an "invading army" only a threat to the national security at our border is all the President needs to declare the border a military zone of operations and do just that.

Precisely. Tendentious leftists do not want you to know about this. And MS-13 and other gangs are definitely a national security threat. I think the left let its slip show with their ringing slogan

No border, No wall,
No USA at all!

Perhaps the black flag of ISIS will yet be raised over the White House. I hope my grandchildren, my children, and I are long gone before that happens. In fact, as a career soldier’s wife, I would expect, before that happens, that they would go down fighting.

 

[KeithD]

A continuation of the "forever" immigration into the United States does not constitute a threat to national security, even if those seeking entry are brown rather than Norwegians. This is about racism, not the rejuvenation of the national makeup.

That said, the immigration process should be rationalized and controlled better. That it isn't is because Republicans in Congress don't want it to be. They've had their chance to get it cleaned up and they've found it more advantageous to have the fear factor to play dumb and prejudiced voters with.

 

[phrodeau]

Precisely. Tendentious leftists do not want you to know about this. And MS-13 and other gangs are definitely a national security threat. I think the left let its slip show with their ringing slogan

No border, No wall,
No USA at all!

Perhaps the black flag of ISIS will yet be raised over the White House. I hope my grandchildren, my children, and I are long gone before that happens. In fact, as a career soldier’s wife, I would expect, before that happens, that they would go down fighting.

MS-13 is a US export.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Show us an invading army, and you'll get an answer.

So you're saying that in the absence of a invading army it is unconstitutional and morally reprehensible to defend the borders. Got it.

So given the fact that 50k criminal aliens infiltrate this country each month, whether they are under colors or individual scofflaws they pass a clear and present danger.

To put that in perspective, 50,000 is more than fought in the First Crusade. Every. Single. Month.

 

[phrodeau]

So you're saying that in the absence of a invading army it is unconstitutional and morally reprehensible to defend the borders. Got it.

So given the fact that 50k criminal aliens infiltrate this country each month, whether they are under colors or individual scofflaws they pass a clear and present danger.

To put that in perspective, 50,000 is more than fought in the First Crusade. Every. Single. Month.

Yeah, I'm sure I said that somewhere.

 

[curiousnme]

A continuation of the "forever" immigration into the United States does not constitute a threat to national security, even if those seeking entry are brown rather than Norwegians. This is about racism, not the rejuvenation of the national makeup.

That said, the immigration process should be rationalized and controlled better. That it isn't is because Republicans in Congress don't want it to be. They've had their chance to get it cleaned up and they've found it more advantageous to have the fear factor to play dumb and prejudiced voters with.

Just love how the term “racism” is used when all else fails! Storming the border certainly, in this old retired military persons mind, seems to appear as a threat to national security. It seems like in your mind this is the rational acts of peaceful, law abiding individuals.

In addition, The Insurrection Act represents what was considered an acceptable use of soldiers: authorized by the President himself, as the ultimate tool through which the United States exercises its sovereign authority within its borders. Also, the Insurrection Act perfectly falls under the exception in the Posse Comitatus Act which everyone seems to bring up as the law which prevents Trump from acting.

You must be too young to remember Obama and the Democratic Congress not doing anything about illegals, with the exception of firing tear gas at illegals, what about 80 times. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

 

[phrodeau]

Just love how the term “racism” is used when all else fails! Storming the border certainly, in this old retired military persons mind, seems to appear as a threat to national security. It seems like in your mind this is the rational acts of peaceful, law abiding individuals.

In addition, The Insurrection Act represents what was considered an acceptable use of soldiers: authorized by the President himself, as the ultimate tool through which the United States exercises its sovereign authority within its borders. Also, the Insurrection Act perfectly falls under the exception in the Posse Comitatus Act which everyone seems to bring up as the law which prevents Trump from acting.

You must be too young to remember Obama and the Democratic Congress not doing anything about illegals, with the exception of firing tear gas at illegals, what about 80 times. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

You must have had a memory lapse, because Obama only had a Democratic Congress for two out of eight years. Look up "John Boehner accomplishments" and learn some history.

 

[KeithD]

Just love how the term “racism” is used when all else fails! Storming the border certainly, in this old retired military persons mind, seems to appear as a threat to national security. It seems like in your mind this is the rational acts of peaceful, law abiding individuals.

In addition, The Insurrection Act represents what was considered an acceptable use of soldiers: authorized by the President himself, as the ultimate tool through which the United States exercises its sovereign authority within its borders. Also, the Insurrection Act perfectly falls under the exception in the Posse Comitatus Act which everyone seems to bring up as the law which prevents Trump from acting.

You must be too young to remember Obama and the Democratic Congress not doing anything about illegals, with the exception of firing tear gas at illegals, what about 80 times. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

Trump's approach to immigration absolutely is racist: none of them shithole Africans; if only they could be Norwegians. You've drunk the Trump Kool-Aid to believe otherwise.

I'm 72. I can vividly remember back to the Nixon years.

I'm not interested in your Trumpette spinning.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Trump's approach to immigration absolutely is racist: none of them shithole Africans; if only they could be Norwegians. You've drunk the Trump Kool-Aid to believe otherwise.

I'm 72. I can vividly remember back to the Nixon years.

I'm not interested in your Trumpette spinning.

There a lot of Africans and Norwegians in that caravan, are there? Who'd a thunk it?

 

[KeithD]

There a lot of Africans and Norwegians in that caravan, are there? Who'd a thunk it?

Typical of you to try to distract from the point.

How many Middle East terrorists do you see in that group, by the way?

 

[phrodeau]

There a lot of Africans and Norwegians in that caravan, are there? Who'd a thunk it?

Could be lots of terrorists, but nobody has bothered to actually find out, least of all the President.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Typical of you to try to distract from the point.

How many Middle East terrorists do you see in that group, by the way?

Distracting from the point is what you did by accusing the other guy of being racist and talking about Africans and Norwegians.

Poking fun at that was more along the lines of getting BACK to the point, whatever that was.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Could be lots of terrorists, but nobody has bothered to actually find out, least of all the President.

There are at least as many terrorists in that caravan as there were people that stormed the wall. More, I'm sure, but at least that many.

 

[KeithD]

Distracting from the point is what you did by accusing the other guy of being racist and talking about Africans and Norwegians.

Umm, no. But thanks for consistently being a scumbag.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Umm, no. But thanks for consistently being a scumbag.

Umm, yes. And my pleasure.

 

[phrodeau]

There are at least as many terrorists in that caravan as there were people that stormed the wall. More, I'm sure, but at least that many.

Spotted any ISIS flags yet?

 

[KeithD]

Spotted any ISIS flags yet?

I'm sure he does see things like that--if The Donald tells him to see them.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Spotted any ISIS flags yet?

So you're claiming that terrorists only come from the middle East? That's a bit racist...

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Well said. Securing borders and enforcing immigration laws should not be controversial. Perhaps the trouble that’s been happening at the CA border will make this more obvious.

 

[KeithD]

Well said. Securing borders and enforcing immigration laws should not be controversial. Perhaps the trouble that’s been happening at the CA border will make this more obvious.

The Trump administration isn't enforcing the existing immigration laws. It's flaunting and abusing existing immigration laws. The immigration laws should be cleaned up, yes, but it's the party of the Trump administration that has prevented that from happening--because they are fomenting fear and ignorance of what is going on for their political purposes (which should give you pause for thought about your post--but I'm sure it won't).

 

[gunthernehmen]

The Trump administration isn't enforcing the existing immigration laws. It's flaunting and abusing existing immigration laws. The immigration laws should be cleaned up, yes, but it's the party of the Trump administration that has prevented that from happening--because they are fomenting fear and ignorance of what is going on for their political purposes (which should give you pause for thought about your post--but I'm sure it won't).

I missed the part of our immigration laws where we have to let any asshole that knocks on the door, in. LOL

There are laws and the people in that caravan aren't interested in following them.

If they were actually interested in asylum they wouldn't have thrown rocks and bottles at people they're asking for help.

 

[NickStJohn]

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[gunthernehmen]

Exactly. This country already has more than its share of assholes, starting at the top and including his supporters.

How trite.

You should run for president and show us how it's done.