Abortion

[Pixie_Dust2001]

Some states are trying to make abortion illegal.

Life is sacred; I get that.

So, theoretically, I could go to jail for getting an abortion (I'll give it simple, and not even give a reason... say, for the health of the baby or my own health).

Just curious: does anyone think the guy who got the girl pregnant should face some kind of repercussion, too? Or should it just fall on the girl?

 

[ExxWhyZee]

If she wants to abort and he doesnt what are his options? None. So why shouldn't it all fall on her?

 

[HisArpy]

The OP advances a stupid argument that twists the debate language to stir a controversy where none exists.

Abortion is legal. The end.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Abortion is legal.

In which States?

 

[jaF0]

In Texas and some other third world shitholes, he can be prosecuted if he helps her get to a clinic out of state, as can anyone who helps her.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The OP advances a stupid argument that twists the debate language to stir a controversy where none exists.

Abortion is legal. The end.

By that logic so is prostitution.

 

[DeluxAuto]

By that logic so is prostitution.

Lol @ "logic."

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Duplicate thread.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Duplicate thread.

We don't need another hall monitor.

 

[ll74]

When a man is able to be pregnant, then he should have a say. Until then, his role is supportive.

 

[Bn2f]

The guy’s maximum liability should be for the cost of half an abortion - whether you decide to have the baby or not.

That’s because the law gives him no say in it and it’s not logical for him to have to pay for your decision.

Half the cost of the abortion is fair because having sex was the last time he had any decision making power.

It isn’t right for him to be forced to assume an 18 year financial obligation based on your decision to have the baby.

GTFOH
We are waaaaaaaaaaaay past this misogynistic, waste of time argument.

A woman/child is raped. She/her family chooses the abortive route. Who should get the stiffest penalty legally? The rapist? The transporting family member? The doctor? Or the female? We already know the answer to this from death penalty wishing republicans. GFY!

 

[v_indigo]

The guy’s maximum liability should be for the cost of half an abortion - whether you decide to have the baby or not.

That’s because the law gives him no say in it and it’s not logical for him to have to pay for your decision.

Half the cost of the abortion is fair because having sex was the last time he had any decision making power.

It isn’t right for him to be forced to assume an 18 year financial obligation based on your decision to have the baby.

If he didn’t want to have a child, he should have kept his legs crossed.

 

[v_indigo]

The same can be said of her.

And realistically, the vast majority of sex doesn’t include wanting a child.

Yet it always ends up being her responsibility. Funny that.

But, of course, you know how stupid you sound. You just don’t like women very much.

 

[ll74]

It's really odd to see dipshits who feel that the man has a dominate and independent role in relationships while simultaneously telling us all that the woman is dependent and submissive role and then explaining how this is about "the children"

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Not at all.

I live on a remote mountain and have my own water, power, and food.

I’m warning you people because I know you don’t have any of that and if something bad happens you’re going to die.

And it’s not that I really care if you die. I just like the feeling of being able to say “I warned you“

Yet it always ends up being her responsibility. Funny that.

But, of course, you know how stupid you sound. You just don’t like women very much.

Well he lives on a remote mountain, which fits in well with his not liking women very much!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's really odd to see dipshits who feel that the man has a dominate and independent role in relationships while simultaneously telling us all that the woman is dependent and submissive role and then explaining how this is about "the children"

wrongway in a nut shell, and kinked_a_lot as well.

 

[Rotadom]

The OP advances a stupid argument that twists the debate language to stir a controversy where none exists.

Abortion is legal. The end.

In which States?

Poor lyin lawyer

 

[RoryN]

The OP advances a stupid argument that twists blah blah blah

Whenever you post anything related to women, it immediately becomes clear that you wouldn't make it a day as one.

You're far too weak and chickenshit.

 

[butters]

GTFOH
We are waaaaaaaaaaaay past this misogynistic, waste of time argument.

A woman/child is raped. She/her family chooses the abortive route. Who should get the stiffest penalty legally? The rapist? The transporting family member? The doctor? Or the female? We already know the answer to this from death penalty wishing republicans. GFY!

from an article about a right-leaning 'libertarian columnist working for the Washington Post who admits she got the whole post Roe v Wade overturning issue so very wrong, thinking there wasn't much public interest and coming to learn how badly the legislations embraced since have been worded:

"I won’t say this is the wrongest I have ever been," wrote Washington Post columnist Megan McArdle, who describes herself as a right-leaning libertarian, on Wednesday.

The writer explained how she'd anticipated politically active factions on either side of the aisle would focus on the elimination of Roe v. Wade — but she had expected everyday citizens wouldn't really care.

so out of the loop

she goes on to say the vote choices were often presented as 'pro-life' or 'pro-choice', without the public understanding that you can be pro-life but still believe it's the decision of the individual, hence pro-choice.

However, a different columnist seems to have been way better informed, which again begs the question why didn't McCardle understand this? why are they living in such a bubble, yet writing in news media that influences millions?:

Columnist Jessica Valenti wrote in 2019, after Alabama banned abortion at conception, that lawmakers were very confused about the specifics of the law.

She cited State Sen. Clyde Chambliss, a Republican, as an example. When he was asked whether there was a carve-out that would protect the victims of incest, he responded: “Yes, until she knows she’s pregnant.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...&cvid=ae6b81f5caa94c6b9ff4400720b730df&ei=107

 

[TrailerHitch]

When a man is able to be pregnant, then he should have a say. Until then, his role is supportive.

Really, only supportive? So supplying his sperm is supportive? Your logic is so fucked up it's ridiculous. I could agree with your idiotic post if you relieved the man of the financial burden of a decision he had no part in.

Women want control of their bodies. So take control, say no to sex, say no to sex without birth control, whether hers or a condom on him. Unless there is rape or a failure of contraception the cause of pregnancy is not a mystery. The ridiculous part is the woman can say she wants to end the pregnancy for what ever reason and the man, who will bear any financial burden of raising the child, has no say at all whether to abort or keep the baby.

 

[TrailerHitch]

If he didn’t want to have a child, he should have kept his legs crossed.

your pronouns are wrong here, it should be she.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Yet it always ends up being her responsibility. Funny that.

But, of course, you know how stupid you sound. You just don’t like women very much.

In reality you don't like logic very much.

 

[ll74]

Really, only supportive? So supplying his sperm is supportive? Your logic is so fucked up it's ridiculous. I could agree with your idiotic post if you relieved the man of the financial burden of a decision he had no part in.

Yes, only supportive. The woman goes through the entire pregnancy by herself, with support of those around her. Sorry you don't want to admit that.

Women want control of their bodies. So take control, say no to sex, say no to sex without birth control, whether hers or a condom on him. Unless there is rape or a failure of contraception the cause of pregnancy is not a mystery. The ridiculous part is the woman can say she wants to end the pregnancy for what ever reason and the man, who will bear any financial burden of raising the child, has no say at all whether to abort or keep the baby.

Men can have sex without worry of pregnancy. Fuck off misogynistic ass.

 

[v_indigo]

In reality you don't like logic very much.

Shhh, journaling, that’s what you should be doing.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Yes, only supportive. The woman goes through the entire pregnancy by herself, with support of those around her. Sorry you don't want to admit that.


Men can have sex without worry of pregnancy. Fuck off misogynistic ass.

Some of us, like me, always took care of birth control. Even if told she was on the pill, or otherwise, I wore a condom. So fuck off you blathering troll.