A weighty issue
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FurryFury said:Thanks!
*hugs back*
Honestly the stuff I have to do isn't that bad. It's just so time involved and all about me. I hate it. It just seems wrong to me.
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I hear that. Sometimes I feel like their's a two year old inside of me, stomping her foot, and saying NO! NO I WILL NOT TAKE MORE PILLS, I WILL NOT EAT RIGHT, AND I WILL NOT BE CAREFUL.
Luckily enough for my bad two year old, she's got K to keep her in line.
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FurryFury said:I totally get that!
I have to mostly keep myself in line though, or not. I HATE taking pills.
I consider eating right an option that is sometimes not in my best interest.
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You'd be amazed at how many people, when I talk about my two year old, say OH MY GOSH, ME TOO! My grandma, Netzach, my friend L . . . lol
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For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies.
1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Sunday's NYT Magazine contained an interesting article by Michael Pollan. First paragraph:
"A few years ago, an obesity researcher at the University of Washington named Adam Drewnowski ventured into the supermarket to solve a mystery. He wanted to figure out why it is that the most reliable predictor of obesity in America today is a person’s wealth. For most of history, after all, the poor have typically suffered from a shortage of calories, not a surfeit. So how is it that today the people with the least amount of money to spend on food are the ones most likely to be overweight?"
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"A few years ago, an obesity researcher at the University of Washington named Adam Drewnowski ventured into the supermarket to solve a mystery. He wanted to figure out why it is that the most reliable predictor of obesity in America today is a person’s wealth. For most of history, after all, the poor have typically suffered from a shortage of calories, not a surfeit. So how is it that today the people with the least amount of money to spend on food are the ones most likely to be overweight?"
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Well that's obvious. At McDonald's you can get 2 junior bacon cheeseburgers for $2. If you want a salad, though, that's $5. You can pick up a whole meal at a convenience store for a few dollars, but ingredients for something healthy costs a lot more.JMohegan said:
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Pollan presents a different view.graceanne said:
"Compared with a bunch of carrots, a package of Twinkies, to take one iconic processed foodlike substance as an example, is a highly complicated, high-tech piece of manufacture, involving no fewer than 39 ingredients, many themselves elaborately manufactured, as well as the packaging and a hefty marketing budget. So how can the supermarket possibly sell a pair of these synthetic cream-filled pseudocakes for less than a bunch of roots?
For the answer, you need look no farther than the farm bill. This resolutely unglamorous and head-hurtingly complicated piece of legislation, which comes around roughly every five years and is about to do so again, sets the rules for the American food system — indeed, to a considerable extent, for the world’s food system. Among other things, it determines which crops will be subsidized and which will not, and in the case of the carrot and the Twinkie, the farm bill as currently written offers a lot more support to the cake than to the root.
Like most processed foods, the Twinkie is basically a clever arrangement of carbohydrates and fats teased out of corn, soybeans and wheat — three of the five commodity crops that the farm bill supports, to the tune of some $25 billion a year. (Rice and cotton are the others.) For the last several decades — indeed, for about as long as the American waistline has been ballooning — U.S. agricultural policy has been designed in such a way as to promote the overproduction of these five commodities, especially corn and soy."
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How poor are we talking here?
Most of the people around here who are overweight would just make more bad choices if they had more money in their food budget and end up even fatter. Instead of one double quarter pounder they would be buying two to go along with the large fries.
A lot of times its about bad decision making. Like I said before I've never heard anyone order off the low-cal side of the Captain's D menu but myself. Everyone else wants the 1400 calorie meal. Why? Because they like a plate full of french fries, hush puppies, and fried fish. That's why they came.
Remember the people in Texas lining up for the deep fried battered bacon?
Most of the people around here who are overweight would just make more bad choices if they had more money in their food budget and end up even fatter. Instead of one double quarter pounder they would be buying two to go along with the large fries.
A lot of times its about bad decision making. Like I said before I've never heard anyone order off the low-cal side of the Captain's D menu but myself. Everyone else wants the 1400 calorie meal. Why? Because they like a plate full of french fries, hush puppies, and fried fish. That's why they came.
Remember the people in Texas lining up for the deep fried battered bacon?
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JMohegan said:
That might be some of it, that's for sure. But a lot of it is that they know they can get what they charge for healthy foods. How do I know? I'm allergic to msg (mono sodium glutamate). It gives me migrains. I pay sometimes twice as much for food that doesn't have msg in it. In other words I'm paying them money to NOT put something in my food. The food was cheaper for them to make, cause they didn't have to pay to put msg in it, but they charge me more because I have to have it. Supply and demand,and all that.
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That reasoning so pisses me off. My mother has an MSG allergy as well only instead of migraines she will actually go into anaphalactic shock if she gets too much of it into her system. She has to read the labels on EVERYTHING and often ends up paying a lot more for food than the average person.
The simple fact is that shit food costs less though I do disagree to some extent with WriterDom's assessment that to people would still eat just as crappy if they had more money. Personally I buy the best food I can with the budget I have. Some paychecks that means that my fridge is full of fruits and veggies and some weeks it's cheap crap...but I try lol.
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My middle girl is gluten and lactose intolerant, and that's a spendy diet. Luckily she just doesn't eat much, but for a loaf of gluten free bread, some gluten free cereal, gluten free frozen waffles, and some lactose free milk (she doesn't like soy) I will spend between 20 and 30 dollars.
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caela said:
Oh, it pisses me off, too. But I guess after nearly 15 years of reading labels and stuff I just have become resigned. I also know which lablels are safe. For instance, Cambells puts msg in just about everything, but their healthy request soups, which cost more. But it means that I can buy cream of mushroom soup to add to certain meals.
I like this woman. Some days I want to rant at the world, at least someone gets to!
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Phirefly said:
I absolutely enjoy this women. Lots of confidence and she enjoys that she is smart and still has extra weight. Good for her if she is happy with herself.
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