A very happy

[Chobham]

The emancipation order issued by Gen. Granger was neither the first, the last, nor the most significant of such orders. The first was issued by Gen. Fremont in 1861. The most significant was issued by Gen. Butler the same year and became known as the 'contraband decision.' That order led to a change in Northern attitudes as to the institution of slavery itself and culminated with the 13th amendment to the Constitution ratified on Dec. 6th 1865. If one is to pick dates to celebrate the end of slavery either Butler's decision or the ratification date or the 13th amendment would work.

But we already have a holiday of remembrance of the horrible cost in lives that ending slavery cost this nation, it's called Memorial Day.

Calling a bullshit, patronizing, holiday what it is is NOT an endorsement of slavery or any of slavery's artifacts.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Happy Juneteenth. The celebration of the end of slavery should be appreciated by every American citizen.

It doesn't mean much to the indigenous population...

At least there was an attempt to keep the slaves alive.

 

[ll74]

The emancipation order issued by Gen. Granger was neither the first, the last, nor the most significant of such orders. The first was issued by Gen. Fremont in 1861. The most significant was issued by Gen. Butler the same year and became known as the 'contraband decision.' That order led to a change in Northern attitudes as to the institution of slavery itself and culminated with the 13th amendment to the Constitution ratified on Dec. 6th 1865. If one is to pick dates to celebrate the end of slavery either Butler's decision or the ratification date or the 13th amendment would work.

But we already have a holiday of remembrance of the horrible cost in lives that ending slavery cost this nation, it's called Memorial Day.

Calling a bullshit, patronizing, holiday what it is is NOT an endorsement of slavery or any of slavery's artifacts.

Memorial day is for soldiers.

Juneteenth is for the end of slavery.

You don't like that.....sorry.

 

[Chobham]

Memorial day is for soldiers.

Juneteenth is for the end of slavery.

You don't like that.....sorry.

That's right and they include the hundreds of thousands that gave their lives to end that abomination.

 

[ll74]

That's right and they include the hundreds of thousands that gave their lives to end that abomination.

Yes, soldiers get a holiday. Two actually...one for the dead and one for the living.

Thanks for acknowledging.

Juneteenth is specific to slavery, before during and after wars. It's to honor, specifically, the sacrifices of slaves and celebrate their freedom.

Sorry you don't like that.

 

[Chobham]

It's the wrong day named with a bullshit, bastardized, English language contraction. That's it, end of discussion.

 

[ll74]

It's the wrong day named with a bullshit, bastardized, English language contraction. That's it, end of discussion.

That's the end of your discussion because you never were open to any discussion to begin with.

Slaves get a holiday to honor and celebrate their unique history. Sorry.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Joe Biden declared June 19 a federal holiday on June 17, 2021. It was a political pander by Biden — the champion presidential panderer in history. There isn’t a Democratic Party interest group that won’t have its own day or month by the time Biden leaves office and Juneteenth was already being recognized by black people, so making it a national holiday was a no-brainer.

Juneteenth celebrates a day when Union General Gordon Granger proclaimed freedom for the slaves in Texas. Rarely mentioned is that since the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863, already freed the slaves in rebel-held territory — including Texas — Granger’s edict was totally unnecessary.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...aming-juneteenth-has-been-a-disaster-n1704278

 

[Philthy_Phil]

It doesn't mean much to the indigenous population...

At least there was an attempt to keep the slaves alive.

Take the hint, tonto.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

The emancipation order issued by Gen. Granger was neither the first, the last, nor the most significant of such orders. The first was issued by Gen. Fremont in 1861. The most significant was issued by Gen. Butler the same year and became known as the 'contraband decision.' That order led to a change in Northern attitudes as to the institution of slavery itself and culminated with the 13th amendment to the Constitution ratified on Dec. 6th 1865. If one is to pick dates to celebrate the end of slavery either Butler's decision or the ratification date or the 13th amendment would work.

But we already have a holiday of remembrance of the horrible cost in lives that ending slavery cost this nation, it's called Memorial Day.

Calling a bullshit, patronizing, holiday what it is is NOT an endorsement of slavery or any of slavery's artifacts.

And if you knew just a little more history, you might understand why June 19, 1965 is historically significant.

... a bullshit, bastardized, English language contraction.

Thanks for clarifying your sentiment on the matter, Assmeal.

 

[DeluxAuto]

And if you knew just a little more history, you might understand why June 19, 1965 is historically significant.

He quit being learned as soon as his side lost the Civil War.

 

[ll74]

Joe Biden declared June 19 a federal holiday on June 17, 2021. It was a political pander by Biden — the champion presidential panderer in history. There isn’t a Democratic Party interest group that won’t have its own day or month by the time Biden leaves office and Juneteenth was already being recognized by black people, so making it a national holiday was a no-brainer.

Juneteenth celebrates a day when Union General Gordon Granger proclaimed freedom for the slaves in Texas. Rarely mentioned is that since the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863, already freed the slaves in rebel-held territory — including Texas — Granger’s edict was totally unnecessary.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...aming-juneteenth-has-been-a-disaster-n1704278

Yes, you seem very mad that there is a holiday honoring slaves and their history.

Your pedantic "the date isn't even right" argument is absurd. Note - Easter isn't when Jesus rose from the dead....Christmas isn't when he was born .....memorial day wasn't even during the worst day for soldiers dying in a war.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Yeah. I'm not mad, but you are a hater.

 

[Bn2f]

Joe Biden declared June 19 a federal holiday on June 17, 2021. It was a political pander by Biden — the champion presidential panderer in history. There isn’t a Democratic Party interest group that won’t have its own day or month by the time Biden leaves office and Juneteenth was already being recognized by black people, so making it a national holiday was a no-brainer.

Juneteenth celebrates a day when Union General Gordon Granger proclaimed freedom for the slaves in Texas. Rarely mentioned is that since the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863, already freed the slaves in rebel-held territory — including Texas — Granger’s edict was totally unnecessary.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...aming-juneteenth-has-been-a-disaster-n1704278

FUCK YOU! FUCK OFF you racist POS LIAR!
Blacks know why Juneteenth all of a sudden got traction to pass the House and Senate after languishing for years and the reason Republicans voted for it with only 14 in the House objecting was and ONLY because of the killing of George Flyod!
FUCK OFF! LIAR!

 

[phrodeau]

The emancipation order issued by Gen. Granger was neither the first, the last, nor the most significant of such orders. The first was issued by Gen. Fremont in 1861. The most significant was issued by Gen. Butler the same year and became known as the 'contraband decision.' That order led to a change in Northern attitudes as to the institution of slavery itself and culminated with the 13th amendment to the Constitution ratified on Dec. 6th 1865. If one is to pick dates to celebrate the end of slavery either Butler's decision or the ratification date or the 13th amendment would work.

But we already have a holiday of remembrance of the horrible cost in lives that ending slavery cost this nation, it's called Memorial Day.

Calling a bullshit, patronizing, holiday what it is is NOT an endorsement of slavery or any of slavery's artifacts.

Gee, you just might have a point, if the enslavers of Texas who violated the Emancipation Proclamation for TWO AND A HALF FUCKING YEARS were all punished for their crime.

 

[ll74]

Yeah. I'm not mad, but you are a hater.

Sure you aren't.

Who exactly am I hating on?

 

[phrodeau]

Christmas

Don’t you mean Christ’s Mass? Why use a bullshit bastardized contraction?

 

[JoePepsiCo]

FUCK YOU! FUCK OFF you racist POS LIAR!
Blacks know why Juneteenth all of a sudden got traction to pass the House and Senate after languishing for years and the reason Republicans voted for it with only 14 in the House objecting was and ONLY because of the killing of George Flyod!
FUCK OFF! LIAR!

The Black Community has a month dedicated to them and two National Holidays. The American Native has the day after Thanksgiving devoted to them. That's a tragic irony after the genocides of the tribes.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

There seems to be a selective amnesia about the crimes against native America.

Is that because they have been reduced to an insignificant voting block by white men?

 

[Bn2f]

FUCK YOU! FUCK OFF you racist piece of... Oh, wait!

"Is that because they have been reduced to an insignificant voting block by white men?"

Ok, you got me. I can't top that self own.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

There seems to be a selective amnesia about the crimes against native America.

No, it's just you being selectively outraged to suit your politics.

 

[DeluxAuto]

The American Native has the day after Thanksgiving devoted to them

Finally. You stopped using "us."

Growth is impotent.

 

[phrodeau]

The Black Community has a month dedicated to them and two National Holidays. The American Native has the day after Thanksgiving devoted to them. That's a tragic irony after the genocides of the tribes.

Your calendar is defective.

May is Asian Pacific American Heritage Month. The second Monday of October is Indigenous People’s Day. And November is American Indian Heritage Month.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

According to CNN:

At least 22 people were injured and one person was killed by gunfire overnight in Illinois, in a peaceful Juneteenth celebration turned deadly, police say.

..and this, from WSPA in North Carolina:

ASHEVILLE, N.C. (WSPA) – A juvenile was charged in connection to a shooting that injured two people at a Juneteenth festival on Saturday.

...and this from San Diego, according to local NBC7:

One person is dead and another was injured after a shooting broke out at a Liberty Station park during a Juneteenth celebration Saturday evening, according to San Diego police. The shooter has not yet been found, police said.

..and this from St. Louis, according to ABC News, which doesn't mention Juneteenth but suggests it in quoted comments about family gatherings near the bottom of the story:

An overnight shooting at a party in a downtown St. Louis office building injured at least 10 people and killed one person, St. Louis police chief Robert Tracy said at a press conference Sunday afternoon.

The previous two years have seen the same sort of Juneteenth violence, with black gunmen shooting black people attending festivities, and mass lootings not uncommon. If you didn't know what Juneteenth was, you'd think it was a good day to board up the shops and avoid public gatherings. How did it morph into something better described as black-on-black violence day? Who told the shooters that today's a fine day to get out there and shoot other black people?

 

[JoePepsiCo]

No problems here. It was a "mostly peaceful" celebration...