A rant- I hate men!

[sweetnpetite]

Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

Thank you so much for proving my every point.

You're just a dumb, cum guzzling whore that has nothing better to do with your time than post ur ludicrous rants on a message board. Take your head out of your ass.

Women are weak.
Women are ignorant.
Women are superficial.

the list goes on.

what do you hope to accomplish with your rants?

I mean seriously.

Oh, let's debate - but then when a man has any type of opposing viewpoint we'll rip him to shreds.

Because we are women and we are always right and men are just big dumb animals that need to bring us money and shiny objects.

You're a hole. You're a fucking wet, warm place for us to put our dicks.

If you think ur something more? Then you're living in a delusion.

Welcome to reality.

Any man that tells you different is either selling you something or wants into your pants.

 

[kobalt.9]

Isn’t it cute how the Little Rascals form a club called, “The He-Man Woman Hater’s Club” and exclude all girls and ‘girl sympathizers?’ And isn’t it something that men grow up and form their ‘good ‘ol boys’ networks and act pretty much the same? And what do we call men when they behave in a sexist and inappropriate way? Sometimes we say that they are chauvinistic pigs- comparing them to cute harmless farm animals. Sometimes we call them dogs- man’s best friend! If we want to be really nasty, we call them misogynists, but they usually don’t know what that means anyway.

But when women dare to notice and name sexism, we are usually accused of being sexist ourselves. As if by recognizing hundreds (maybe millions) of years of oppression, by calling men on it- by demanding equal treatment, equal rights- we are now oppressing them. And what do we call a woman who hates men? Do we call her a harmless barnyard animal? She gets labeled a “femi-nazi.” Yes, hating women is wrong but hating men is simply unacceptable. Ever notice how people who say, ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’ don’t throw up half as much fuss over the first wrong as they do the second? It may be wrong, after all, but it’s just the way it is. Let’s not go messing with the status quo.

When men show up, they always try to take over. They think that just because they are men, they should be in charge. The women may have been doing all the work all along, but the men will step in and take charge and then take the credit. Ask a man to do anything, and he will ask- ‘why?’ no matter how simple the request. Point out there bad behavior and they tell you that you are generalizing, that they are not like ‘other men.’ Funny, by separating themselves from ‘most men’ they acknowlege the truth in your ‘generality.’ Men just hate being lumped together, even if they know you are right. It offends their sense of individuality.

Women who don’t let the men take over are usually seen as ball busters. They’re bitches, or nags or otherwise marginalized, shushed, or dismissed. Sometimes it’s very effective, because women don’t like being called names. We want people to like us. It’s a no-win situation and most of us know it. But we are afraid to say so.

Speaking about the oppression in our society that is very real, women are told, It’s all in your head, you’re over reacting, that’s just the way it is. In other words, sit down and shut up. More often than not, women are then accused of playing a ’victim’ card and trying to oppress or victimize men. Yes, naming oppression has made up the oppressor! What an odd twist.

Men do have a knack for turning everything around on us. Even what they do wrong is always our fault. We are too sexy, we were in the wrong place, we wouldn’t shut up, we nag too much. (God, if men would only *listen* us women wouldn’t have to nag.)

Someone will no doubted say that I’m just ‘bitching and whining’ and not doing anything about it. But naming the problem is doing something, as obviously nothing *can* be done until the problem is identified. And besides, I *am* bitching. That’s because I have something to bitch about. So don’t try to marginalize me or shut me up or accuse me of being sexist. Because I don’t care. I see injustice and it pisses me off. Yeah, I know that the worlds not fair- but that doesn’t mean that women should just lie back and take it. It doesn’t mean we don’t do anything about it. It means that when we see something we don’t like, we raise our voices and say so. There are some men that I like as individuals, but overall, *I hate men.* And you know what- they deserve it.

You started a new 2nd thread on the same topic, how very lovingtongue of you. Of course, LT usually takes the time to write something new when he starts his second and third threads on a topic.

 

[FuckingFreak]

Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

Thank you so much for proving my every point.

your welcome.

That was my goal.

DUH

 

[DarlingNikki]

Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

Thank you so much for proving my every point.

He didn't prove your every point any more than he proves that every internet bulletin board poster is rude, or that Anna Nicole Smith proves that every woman is an idiot, or OJ Simpson proves that every black man is a killer, or Susan Smith proves that every woman who says her kids were kidnapped is lying, etc. etc.

I mean, come on. My boyfriend and my male friends would never say those things. Why doesn't THAT "prove" anything?

 

[kobalt.9]

Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

Thank you so much for proving my every point.

Hmm, that is really logical because we all know FuckingFreak is representative of the entire male population.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Re: Re: A rant- I hate men!

You started a new 2nd thread on the same topic, how very lovingtongue of you. Of course, LT usually takes the time to write something new when he starts his second and third threads on a topic.

I started that thread on a different board, but it got moved here. Other people had rants on that board, and different people visit that board than here.

 

[zipman]

Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

Thank you so much for proving my every point.

I think the only point you proved is that acting like an immature little girl throwing a hissy fit will get people to react negatively to them.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Re: Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

He didn't prove your every point any more than he proves that every internet bulletin board poster is rude, or that Anna Nicole Smith proves that every woman is an idiot, or OJ Simpson proves that every black man is a killer, or Susan Smith proves that every woman who says her kids were kidnapped is lying, etc. etc.

I mean, come on. My boyfriend and my male friends would never say those things. Why doesn't THAT "prove" anything?

It was meant to be something like dry sarcasm.

Ok, I'm going to appologize, or at least try. I just wanted to see what people thought of this, I wrote it in a hurry becuase it's been on my mind lately. Yes, I just found out that I hate men. No I don't think that all men are assholes. I just really don't like them. I'm sorry and I'm wrong for it, but that's how I feel. Men so much as they have been present in my life have for the most part been something of an intrusion. I don't hate anyone for being male. I don't hate the mailman, or the male customers where I used to work. BUt there are somethings that make a guy a guy, and sometimes I hate those things. As an appology, this probably sucks, but I'm jusy saying how i feel.I guees I should just burn in hell for feeling that way cuz I'm wrong wrong wrong.

 

[FuckingFreak]

Re: Re: Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

I guees I should just burn in hell for feeling that way cuz I'm wrong wrong wrong.

Spoken like a true woman.

 

[Pseudomoniker]

Re: Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

He didn't prove your every point any more than he proves that every internet bulletin board poster is rude, or that Anna Nicole Smith proves that every woman is an idiot, or OJ Simpson proves that every black man is a killer, or Susan Smith proves that every woman who says her kids were kidnapped is lying, etc. etc.

I mean, come on. My boyfriend and my male friends would never say those things. Why doesn't THAT "prove" anything?

OJ Simpson is black?? Damn, now it all makes sense!!

Why do you people persist in this pointless exercise?
There will always be stereotypes because a significant portion of a population will meet "X" criteria put forth, regardless of whether it's based in gender, race, religion, age, blah blah blah.
And there will always be exceptions to the rule. The only reason stereotypes exist is because there *are* a number of individuals who meet that stereotype, enough of them where they are not considered "bad apples" but actually representative of a significant percentage of the group.

From the start, SnP said that her rant was directed at "some", not "all" men. Granted, she generalized a lot of her statements as regarding "men", but everyone's nailing her ass to a cross for opinions that she's had from her experiences. It's utter inanity to categorically point out how you personally don't meet those criteria being listed. Let's be honest, do asses admit to being asses? Hell, are they even aware of it half the time? Can you possibly imagine how many of us males think we rock in bed when a woman we've been with says exactly the opposite to her friends? Any individual denial of the claims is exactly that, an individual denial. It does not represent absolution for the group in question.

There are playahs and golddiggers everywhere, in varying quantities. There will be women who have had very bad experiences with men and men who have been shit on by women, and they're all entitled to what they think, and they're even justified in thinking it based upon their experiences. But until someone makes a direct accusation against you, just keep assuming that you're the "exception" to the stereotype. Y'all just look silly repeating the same hackneyed rhetoric over and over and over again. Break the cycle!!

Now, which one of you lucky bitches wants to make me an unappreciated dinner so I can watch my baseball game in blissful flatulence?

 

[sweetnpetite]

Thank you monikker.







Now how will I whine that no-body understands me?

ps. do you like meatloaf?

 

[kobalt.9]

Re: Re: Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

From the start, SnP said that her rant was directed at "some", not "all" men.

Directed at "some" men. I love the euphuism you use here. But instead of altering her language into a form more suitable for your argument lets look at what she actually said.

What she said is that as a group, she hates men. She said she dislikes men in general, but at males at the individual level.

Now, if I said the same thing about African Americans, women, or gays and lesbians, what would be your reaction?

 

[Pseudomoniker]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

Directed at "some" men. I love the euphuism you use here. But instead of altering her language into a form more suitable for your argument lets look at what she actually said.

What she said is that as a group, she hates men. She said she dislikes men in general, but at males at the individual level.

Now, if I said the same thing about African Americans, women, or gays and lesbians, what would be your reaction?

First off, it's not a euphemism. (I'll overlook the typo as well)

Euphemism: A figure in which a harsh or indelicate word or expression is softened; a way of describing an offensive thing by an inoffensive expression; a mild name for something disagreeable.

The jump from "men" to "some men" does not replace a harsh or indelicate word, nor does it change the intent of her opinion. It simply narrows down the scope. And she did state this later on:

Direct quote: "There are some men that I like as individuals, but overall, *I hate men.* "

Granted it's something of a self-negating statement, but I interpret it as meaning "I hate most men", to allow for those individuals she does like.

But I digress...

As far as my reaction to your theoretical statements, it's the same. You're entitled to whatever you want to think based upon your personal experience with them. I wouldn't argue your justification in feeling that way. Regardless of whether I agree or not with your opinion, my own experiences shape my own opinions. And you can continue on your own rants as well. I just point out what a waste of time it is for all involved. You're not gonna change SnP's opinion, she's not gonna change yours. Everyone can continue to play on the wonderful literary merry-go-round of 'he said, she said', content in the fact that they have the opportunity to say what they want to say. But the instant anyone tries to attack the points made by showing how they are the exception, it still bubbles down to the whole "individual absolution" I stated earlier.

I think women can't be trusted... given enough time, they will either lie to you, or cheat on you, or do something to betray your trust. It's inevitable. The stupid ones always say "well, that's what men do too!". Lovely justification. I don't need to explain in great detail why that is childish. But there will be women out there who will take offense at the statement and say that they've never done any of those things. My answer? "Yet." Or they're liars or completely oblivious when they've done it. But anybody who tries to say that I'm wrong (which is what many people have been doing to SnP) is far too focused on trying to defend themselves from what they consider a personal attack. It's fine to discuss why the person feels the way they do, and if you really need to point out how you don't do any of the things they're generalizing about the group you belong to, go right ahead. I hope you feel better. But in this specific case of gender vs. gender when the only counterattack is "Well, you guys/girls do this this and this and that's why you suck!", it reinforces the negative cycle. Let them have their opinion, no matter how ridiculous it is. If they want to be retarded, let them.

 

[dreamer]

Re: Re: Re: Re: shut your fucking cake hole you stupid slut.

BUt there are somethings that make a guy a guy, and sometimes I hate those things.

Once again, I feel compelled to mention you probably need some professional help dealing with these feelings.

Seriously...that's a very unhealthy statement to make. It also makes you SOUND really shallow and ignorant. Please note, I'm not calling you either...but comments like you've made in this thread point to a MUCH deeper issue than anything to do with men.

The ONLY thing that makes a guy a guy is chromosomally. To need to generalize about 'men' and have the need be so strong that you have to post this on different boards just to be sure to find 'other people' that may frequent other boards seems motivated by something. I'm in no position to guess what that motivation is but for your own good it may be a guestion you should ask yourself.

Good luck to you, I hope someday you realize this hatred of a 'type' has nothing to do with men. Trust me 3+ billion men are not the same. Many of us have nothing in common but a dick.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I couldn't agree more.

I think if I had said, "I hate telemarketers" instead, I'd have a lot more support. (even though not *all* tellemarketers call during dinner, and other such generalizations.)

And if I'd have said, "I hate Jahovah's Witnesses" I probably wouldn't have been accused of 'religious persecution.'

It seems like it's "ok" to hate certain groups of people and not others.


QUOTE]Originally posted by Pseudomoniker
First off, it's not a euphemism. (I'll overlook the typo as well)

Euphemism: A figure in which a harsh or indelicate word or expression is softened; a way of describing an offensive thing by an inoffensive expression; a mild name for something disagreeable.

The jump from "men" to "some men" does not replace a harsh or indelicate word, nor does it change the intent of her opinion. It simply narrows down the scope. And she did state this later on:

Direct quote: "There are some men that I like as individuals, but overall, *I hate men.* "

Granted it's something of a self-negating statement, but I interpret it as meaning "I hate most men", to allow for those individuals she does like.

But I digress...

As far as my reaction to your theoretical statements, it's the same. You're entitled to whatever you want to think based upon your personal experience with them. I wouldn't argue your justification in feeling that way. Regardless of whether I agree or not with your opinion, my own experiences shape my own opinions. And you can continue on your own rants as well. I just point out what a waste of time it is for all involved. You're not gonna change SnP's opinion, she's not gonna change yours. Everyone can continue to play on the wonderful literary merry-go-round of 'he said, she said', content in the fact that they have the opportunity to say what they want to say. But the instant anyone tries to attack the points made by showing how they are the exception, it still bubbles down to the whole "individual absolution" I stated earlier.

I think women can't be trusted... given enough time, they will either lie to you, or cheat on you, or do something to betray your trust. It's inevitable. The stupid ones always say "well, that's what men do too!". Lovely justification. I don't need to explain in great detail why that is childish. But there will be women out there who will take offense at the statement and say that they've never done any of those things. My answer? "Yet." Or they're liars or completely oblivious when they've done it. But anybody who tries to say that I'm wrong (which is what many people have been doing to SnP) is far too focused on trying to defend themselves from what they consider a personal attack. It's fine to discuss why the person feels the way they do, and if you really need to point out how you don't do any of the things they're generalizing about the group you belong to, go right ahead. I hope you feel better. But in this specific case of gender vs. gender when the only counterattack is "Well, you guys/girls do this this and this and that's why you suck!", it reinforces the negative cycle. Let them have their opinion, no matter how ridiculous it is. If they want to be retarded, let them. [/QUOTE]

 

[Bent]

Personally, your passion is a turn on, but really, I enjoy being 'oppressed'. I have no problem with a guy opening my door, working while I stay home, and being so much more intelligent than I am...I have no hang ups about that in the least. To compensate for the areas that I lack...I just fuck his brains out when he walks in the door. Oppression (IMHO) Rules!

 

[sweetnpetite]

Personally, your passion is a turn on, but really, I enjoy being 'oppressed'. I have no problem with a guy opening my door, working while I stay home, and being so much more intelligent than I am...I have no hang ups about that in the least. To compensate for the areas that I lack...I just fuck his brains out when he walks in the door. Oppression (IMHO) Rules!

I think you can get all that without the oppression, lol

 

[Bent]

As long as he pins me down while we screw that is all that matters. He deserves the right to vote, slap me around, cuff me, etc

 

[kelley_and_tracy]

Swoon!

 

[sweetnpetite]

As long as he pins me down while we screw that is all that matters. He deserves the right to vote, slap me around, cuff me, etc

Is this sarcasm or just ignorance?