1HF's av....

[Aglaopheme]

Pale girl problems.

Exactly. I have a bunch of bruises on the back of my arm that are various colors. I've no idea where they came from. I've never had a tan.

 

[Pookie]

Of course it can get rough but she looks really fucked up in that photo. Rough is choking, grabbing, pinning, pulling, etc. She looks like she was fighting for her life.

I've seen cheerleaders with worse than that. Check out some pics of girls playing soccer, lacrosse and even flag football. It's not difficult to get bruised even worse than what you see in 1HF's AV.

What do you mean it "depends on the participants?" Which type of participants would justify that?

Some people like to be more physical when it comes to sex is what I mean.

Wrong doesn't exclusively mean not consensual; it's technically not consensual if someone has an unresolved childhood trauma that prevents them from making good decisions. And utterly wrong to boot.

But if she enjoyed herself...

I don't know anything about if childhood trauma is involved. That's a whole different issue than just seeing bruises like she has.

If 1HF had said she had played rugby the day before, the reaction would've been totally different to her AV.

 

[Adre]

Please don't be this guy. Dammit.


It always takes these kinds of concern troll threads to really make me evaluate my feelings on people I once considered friends.

If you would choose to stop engaging with me because I have strong feelings about women and violence then you're not the person I took you to be. Perhaps you're too young to know of cases where 'consensual' sexual violence turned tragic. I know women who work in this field and they have many sad stories to tell. My acknowledgement of reality does not make me a concern troll.

 

[DesEsseintes]

Pale girl problems.

INTERSECTIONALITY!

PRIVILEGE!

HOW DARE YOU!



Sorry. I just don't think I've ever been able to use those buzzwords, and I expect I used them wrong. But it may have been my last chance.

 

[Kitty]

Exactly. I have a bunch of bruises on the back of my arm that are various colors. I've no idea where they came from. I've never had a tan.

You have no idea where they came from, but 1HF does.

 

[Aglaopheme]

My second question was glossed right over.

 

[Aglaopheme]

You have no idea where they came from, but 1HF does.

And you're missing the point entirely.

 

[jezzilee]

1hf I am really sorry your expression of your preferred sexual its has come under scrutiny. You should not be judged for your sexual proclivities. I also commend you on how you have handled the situation. I am glad you are not afraid to stand up for yourself without attacking those whose opinions differ from your own. It is nice to see such a display of decorum.

 

[Adre]

Sidestepping the inflammtory "beating devotee" part that is a reasonable question as is whether a medical professional or cop would have concerns seeing that. If I saw that, I would have the same sort of questions that a medical professional would have to make sure that it was in fact consensual and that it was the result of abuse or coerceon.

First that's a hard question for any parent answer simply because none of us want to consider that our children become adults.

Since I've never been one to buckle under peer pressure or do something because it appeared cool, having my two oldest children become smokers because their friends thought it was cool was disappointing.. given that I have no dumb children they know that smoking is stupid. Lots of smart people do things that others shake their head at. Both have decided on their own without any parental pressure to quit smoking.

I am NOT making smoking and rough sex analogous, since one will kill you in one won't. My point is I trust my kids to ultimately make sane decisions even if they falter as they decide what works for them.

Would you freak out or order your adult child into therapy if you noted 50 shades on her bookshelf. Have you ever read a bodice-ripper romance novel? I am fairly convinced that women on average are kinkier than men. Men who don't know this possibly don't inspire trust in women. Look at how many women come on literotica and report that their husband is fairly vanilla and they have some darker fantasies that they are are embarrassed or ashamed to share with him. Or they did share such fantasies and were rebuffed or shamed.

I don't think my term was inflammatory, rather I was addressing my question only to people who support and enjoy this activity, hence devotees.

 

[Kitty]

If IHF had said she had played rugby the day before, the reaction would've been totally different to her AV.

But...she didn't say that. What is the point you're trying to make comparing sports to sex. We already agreed for once that it's not usual to get such severe bruising from sex. I know she's your friend but use your head. You already fit in here; there's no need to blind your judgement nor to acquiesce to anything for anyone.

But as I said, if she had a good time...let's just hope these people who are indignantly defending her defend her if she gets a concussion.

 

[Que]

I've seen cheerleaders with worse than that. Check out some pics of girls playing soccer, lacrosse and even flag football. It's not difficult to get bruised even worse than what you see in 1HF's AV.



Some people like to be more physical when it comes to sex is what I mean.



I don't know anything about if childhood trauma is involved. That's a whole different issue than just seeing bruises like she has.

If IHF had said she had played rugby the day before, the reaction would've been totally different to her AV.

I am henceforth going to use "played rugby" as a euphemism for rough sex.

 

[Wrong Element]

Pale girl problems.

True; if one's skin is pale enough, it doesn't take much to create bruising. How do I know this? Eh, wild guess.

Killswitch in his Dudley Do-Right mode is always entertaining.

 

[Kitty]

And you're missing the point entirely.

I'm not missing the point; you say you're pale so you bruise easily. And? It looks like she was burnt. I'd bother to read the thread to see if she mentioned what she did to get the bruising but I'm not bored enough yet. Do you know what she did?

 

[Kitty]

I am henceforth going to use "played rugby" as a euphemism for rough sex.

I thought it already was one, around here.

 

[DesEsseintes]

I am henceforth going to use "played rugby" as a euphemism for rough sex.

Oval balls?

Ouch.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I want to point out a logical flaw here because I truly hate logical flaws. I'll preface this by saying 1HF is truly free to do whatever she likes. She doesn't need a forum of people to say yes or no. She's a fucking adult. A really hard, rough fucking adult. My comment isn't about 1HF. It's about people and their poor reasoning skills.

There is a flaw in this logic:

"If she enjoyed it, then it's okay."

That's just bad logic people. Lots of people enjoy unhealthy things. Enjoyment and pleasure do not a healthy practice make.

Before someone actually fails to read my post, spare me your lecture on judging 1HF. I'm not judging her. I'm judging the people who say things like "as long as it feels good, it's okay". That's the reasoning of every drug addict ever.

 

[Pookie]

But...she didn't say that. What is the point you're trying to make comparing sports to sex. We already agreed for once that it's not usual to get such severe bruising from sex. I know she's your friend but use your head. You already fit in here; there's no need to blind your judgement nor to acquiesce to anything for anyone.

But as I said, if she had a good time...let's just hope these people who are indignantly defending her defend her if she gets a concussion.

And of course, "not usual" does not equal "never".

And I'm not blinding myself because I'm friends with her. Bruising happens during physical activity. It can happen during rough sex just as easily as it can happen during any other physical activity.

She has bruises from sex play. So what? If it is consensual, why is getting bruised during sex play different than other play? Is it mainly because you wouldn't enjoy being rough enough during sex play to get bruised like that?

 

[Que]

I don't think my term was inflammatory, rather I was addressing my question only to people who support and enjoy this activity, hence devotees.

Fair enough. With someone interested in rough play I could see myself using the term beating affectionately. I'm sort of reacting to some (not your post) it seem to be equivocating rough play with non-consensual abuse.

If I understand your concern directly it is the actual risks involved with rough play. Which is definitely a valid concern.

 

[Wings]

If you would choose to stop engaging with me because I have strong feelings about women and violence then you're not the person I took you to be. Perhaps you're too young to know of cases where 'consensual' sexual violence turned tragic. I know women who work in this field and they have many sad stories to tell. My acknowledgement of reality does not make me a concern troll.

You are being a concern troll. You chose to use inflammatory words instead of just asking a question. This website we post on is Literotica.com. Not a comment section on Yahoo. There is an entire message board devoted to BDSM. All kinks of the legal, consensual types are welcome. We have an entire board dedicated to exhibitionists and their fans.

We've got some chick with an emoticon of a caning and some sort of S&M reference in her signature offering up her brilliant observation of "ouch". We have men who have been proponents of sexuality in the past now seemingly concerned about one woman's passions.

Had you asked your question a little differently I would have told you that if my 20 year old offspring came home with bruises like that I would have a serious discussion about limits, consent, and health. The thing is, I'm already having these discussions with my kids and they aren't that old yet.

We talk about anal a lot on this board. Some of the women here enjoy the fuck out of it, some are grossed out and don't want to try it. That's fine, that's understandable. Some women enjoy pain, need that release and have partners who are willing and able to provide that. Not your thing? Fine, understandable.

To try to assign some sort of mental illness to someone who enjoys a certain type of sex is so asinine.

 

[Aella_]

I want to point out a logical flaw here because I truly hate logical flaws. I'll preface this by saying 1HF is truly free to do whatever she likes. She doesn't need a forum of people to say yes or no. She's a fucking adult. A really hard, rough fucking adult. My comment isn't about 1HF. It's about people and their poor reasoning skills.

There is a flaw in this logic:

"If she enjoyed it, then it's okay."

That's just bad logic people. Lots of people enjoy unhealthy things. Enjoyment and pleasure do not a healthy practice make.

Before someone actually fails to read my post, spare me your lecture on judging 1HF. I'm not judging her. I'm judging the people who say things like "as long as it feels good, it's okay". That's the reasoning of every drug addict ever.

wtf, LordP?
I always pictured you as open-minded but I guess I was wrong.
This is not about judging 1HF - this is about you pervs getting a hard-on while diving into a person's personal life. I don't care if my or her personal life involve swinging off chandeliers : Private is Private.

 

[doowdniw]

let's just hope these people who are indignantly defending her defend her if she gets a concussion.

Perhaps she should wear a helmet during sex...just in case.

 

[pink]

If you would choose to stop engaging with me because I have strong feelings about women and violence then you're not the person I took you to be. Perhaps you're too young to know of cases where 'consensual' sexual violence turned tragic. I know women who work in this field and they have many sad stories to tell. My acknowledgement of reality does not make me a concern troll.

You are the one who is talking down to, Wings. "Perhaps you are too young to know..." Oh please, that statement makes me want to vomit.

 

[Kitty]

And of course, "not usual" does not equal "never".

And I'm not blinding myself because I'm friends with her. Bruising happens during physical activity. It can happen during rough sex just as easily as it can happen during any other physical activity.

She has bruises from sex play. So what? If it is consensual, why is getting bruised during sex play different than other play? Is it mainly because you wouldn't enjoy being rough enough during sex play to get bruised like that?

What I do in my bedroom, kitchen, car is irrelevant; she put her photo up showcasing what happened after she was with someone. This is the result. Bruising does not happen to me from normal physical activity; it happens after exertion of force. Like I said it looks like she was burnt. When I have nothing better to do I will read the rest of the thread to see if she stated what she did, because otherwise it looks pretty brutal. Taking it a bit too far for pathological reasons is what it looks like. But I guess everyone is in an argumentative mood.

 

[Kitty]

Perhaps she should wear a helmet during sex...just in case.

Perhaps.
Let's roll our eyes at violence.
Everyone?

 

[Kitty]

If I understand your concern directly it is the actual risks involved with rough play. Which is definitely a valid concern.

This, o this.