❌Monthly Song Challenge: Archived🎵

[SalaciousMonkey22]

This one's for you, Monkey! I couldn't disagree more with your stance

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

The first ever Avantasia song I remember really hearing, and the one that sold me on the band. The Seven Angels is the opening track for their second album and features, as the title gives away, seven different legendary metal singers. People like Rob Rock, Timo Tolkki, André Matos.

It's an epic, in the truest sense of the word, telling two stories in one.
Choirs, symphonies, unconventional composition; it's really the epitome of Metal Opera.
Clocking in at over 14 minutes, this one's for the fans, and all lovers of metal!

Avantasia - The Seven Angels

It’s okay. We know you’re weird. And love you for it.

 

[vagrantx]

I remember everything!

I love that so much. There really isn't anyone quite like him

GOD
DAMN IT
DADDY
....you know I love you....

There really isn't. Well, Jim Steinman, may he rest in peace as well. They were two pieces of a whole.

 

[MissLabelled]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

I have strong feelings that songs should be under 5 minutes (and movies under 100 but that’s a different argument)

I am with @vagrantx in my disagreement with this stance. I love a long epic of a song, one that takes you on a journey and tells a story.

I was going to pick something shorter but now I'm being belligerent on purpose

This song has eight movements, with different sounds and tones and stories. And while I don't expect anyone to sit down and listen to this, if you do happen to listen, expect a journey into six different people's mental space. It's a trip!

Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

 

[SalaciousMonkey22]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long


I am with @vagrantx in my disagreement with this stance. I love a long epic of a song, one that takes you on a journey and tells a story.

I was going to pick something shorter but now I'm being belligerent on purpose

This song has eight movements, with different sounds and tones and stories. And while I don't expect anyone to sit down and listen to this, if you do happen to listen, expect a journey into six different people's mental space. It's a trip!

Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

Apparently no one’s perfect. Sad. So sad.

 

[curious_slut]

Couldn’t help noticing some underlying misogyny over the last two day’s prompts. Seems yesterday there was a strong agreement that boy bands should be comprised of males under the age of 18, but without exception (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) every “Girl Band” was women (mine included). Are there any true “Girl Bands”?

Is it a double standard that aims to protect girls? As a society are we ok taking a group of pubescent boys and sexualizing them as fodder for our pre teen girls to fantasize about, but we draw the line when it comes to girls? We seem to be ok, as a society, with young girls in beauty pageants, but they are being paraded in front of adults, which is beyond creepier.

And does this help establish the idea in our kids that boys accomplish things and girls are just meant to be pretty?

I take your point but I think "boy bands" and "girls bands" are labeled as such more for their target audience being adolescents who like pop music? Some of the big ones that come to my mind might have had one or two members who started at 16 but they were more often adults. Most of the Spice Girls were around 20 if I remember correctly. Little Mix were all adults. The Backstreet Boys were all adult men except for Nick Carter who was 16. Ditto One Direction except for Harry Styles who was 17.

I was a bit annoyed for a different reason. I didn't notice anyone question the term girl band being applied to adult women in a band playing music that isn't pop. Not so for the boy band prompt. As if it's insulting to refer to a man as a boy but not a woman as a girl.

 

[Amanda330]

Day 7 a song that 5+ minutes

I have strong feelings that songs should be under 5 minutes (and movies under 100 but that’s a different argument)

But there are exceptions to all rules.

Oh God, want you on my lips.

And even this has got some self-indulgent filler that could be easily jettisoned.

I LOVE THIS SONG. And you.

 

[curious_slut]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long


I am with @vagrantx in my disagreement with this stance. I love a long epic of a song, one that takes you on a journey and tells a story.

I was going to pick something shorter but now I'm being belligerent on purpose

This song has eight movements, with different sounds and tones and stories. And while I don't expect anyone to sit down and listen to this, if you do happen to listen, expect a journey into six different people's mental space. It's a trip!

Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

I knew I liked it pretty quickly but the longer I listened, I had to change to

 

[SalaciousMonkey22]

I LOVE THIS SONG. And you.

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[vagrantx]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

Haven't listened to Dream Theater in years!! Now I know what's going on the stereo tonight!

Apparently no one’s perfect. Sad. So sad.

So sign up, all you raw recurits
throw away all those two-bit suits
You got your wepons cocked
your targets in your sights

There's a party raging somewhere in the world!
You gotta serve your country,
gotta service your girl
You're all inducted in the Army of the Night!

Except for @SalaciousMonkey22
You've formally been barred
No more rock n' roll for you
Please return your membership card

 

[MissLabelled]

I knew I liked it pretty quickly but the longer I listened, I had to change to

Ooh, I'm glad you're listening to it. Dream Theater are such technical musicians and this song just highlights their skill. And Mike Portnoy's vocals are just such a good fit for the musicality of this song.

Weirdly, despite being 42 minutes long, when it ends it doesn't feel like you've had enough! At least for me.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

Y'all are good. A few of the songs that came immediately to mind have already been posted.

I love a long song and this one clocks in at almost 12 minutes

Jesus of Suburbia - Green Day

 

[__Nathan1968]

As if it's insulting to refer to a man as a boy but not a woman as a girl.

This really summarizes my original observation.

 

[curious_slut]

This really summarizes my original observation.

Ok, nice to be in agreement.

 

[PassionatePanther]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

Lost Together - Blue Rodeo

 

[morelikeasong]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

Y'all are good. A few of the songs that came immediately to mind have already been posted.

I love a long song and this one clocks in at almost 12 minutes

Jesus of Suburbia - Green Day

I haven’t posted yet but this one was on my shortlist! Probably my favorite from that album.

 

[Cjbdd]

I take your point but I think "boy bands" and "girls bands" are labeled as such more for their target audience being adolescents who like pop music? Some of the big ones that come to my mind might have had one or two members who started at 16 but they were more often adults. Most of the Spice Girls were around 20 if I remember correctly. Little Mix were all adults. The Backstreet Boys were all adult men except for Nick Carter who was 16. Ditto One Direction except for Harry Styles who was 17.

I was a bit annoyed for a different reason. I didn't notice anyone question the term girl band being applied to adult women in a band playing music that isn't pop. Not so for the boy band prompt. As if it's insulting to refer to a man as a boy but not a woman as a girl.

Exactly! Couldn't agree more

 

[laszloholyfield]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

Rush - Jacob's Ladder

First heard it on Permanent Waves, but live I think it's even better. It was a difficult decision between the Exit...Stage Left recording and the R40 concert versions, but recency bias won over nostalgia.

 

[SeaLevel]

Wilco, "Impossible Germany," featuring Nels Cline with one of the greatest guitar solos ever:

 

[Lord Pmann]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long


I am with @vagrantx in my disagreement with this stance. I love a long epic of a song, one that takes you on a journey and tells a story.

I was going to pick something shorter but now I'm being belligerent on purpose

This song has eight movements, with different sounds and tones and stories. And while I don't expect anyone to sit down and listen to this, if you do happen to listen, expect a journey into six different people's mental space. It's a trip!

Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

Funny thing is, I don't think Dream Theater has a song under 5 minutes.

My ears are too old to listen to DT these days. I used to be super into them, even saw them in concert before. Those guys are just absurdly talented.

My pick for today's 5+ minute song is Schism by Tool.

Brilliantly named, with the alternating time signatures in the song. 5/8 to 7/8 then eventually to 3/4 and 4/4. The song has something like 50 time signature changes and it doesn't sound like a choppy mess.

They also record these songs usually in one take with minimal fixes in the middle. Danny Carey has to be the most competent drummer out there, in my opinion.

 

[UnquietDreams]

I was a bit annoyed for a different reason. I didn't notice anyone question the term girl band being applied to adult women in a band playing music that isn't pop. Not so for the boy band prompt. As if it's insulting to refer to a man as a boy but not a woman as a girl.

I didn't complain for a couple of reasons. One, I was taking the prompt in the spirit it was provided. I guessed what the next one was going to be, so it was more a focus point than a term d'art. I figured where @morelikeasong was going with her prompts, and took them as the challenge they were. I chose Chappell Roan, who isn't a "girl group," but an artist with an all-female backing band. My fallback was Slater-Kenny, who I don't think of as a "girl group," but as one of the best live acts that I love. I was looking at "boy bands" because that is a genre, and finding a band of all males was a cheat to me (my own rules. I judge nobody on their choices. Except @SalaciousMonkey22 with his "all songs should be under five minutes" crap). As much as I love The Ronettes, the only actual Girl Group that came to mind, they weren't on my list.

Secondly, unless someone in that group finds a word offensive, I don't think of a label as pejorative unless it is used that way. Slurs are an obvious exception, but I never saw "girl" used pejoratively. I probably didn't read enough, but I missed people taking offense for men to be called boys, so I don't know the basis of the argument. Again, challenge rather than point of contention.

Finally: "boy band." One syllable, one syllable. "Girl band." One syllable, one syllable. "Woman band" Two syllables, one syllable. Girl band flows better.

 

[UnquietDreams]

There were comments that “those were men not boys” I used 18 as the accepted age of majority.

Again, these are cherry picked to be boys that can be marketed to young girls.

Boys aren’t interested in girls?

See comment above about what boys are interested in.

But those bands were never “Girl Bands” the way Backstreet Boys et al were “Boy Bands” and they were never marketed to young, impressionable boys (not that they didn’t get their hands on the albums).

I can discuss this further someplace else if you would like, but honestly, I don't see us as that far apart on this.

Distilled down for me, I see misogyny in the recording industry and marketing. I didn't see it in this thread.

 

[SluttyShannon]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

 

[UnquietDreams]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

There is so much epic Maiden content. I hadn't thought of this one in a while. Thank you!

 

[onanismaddict]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

I have been going back and forth between four or five favourite Iron Maiden songs, and now I see that one was just posted several minutes ago, but I can't see what it is where I live... so I'm just going to pick one blind, and hope that it's not duplicating the selection above. The odds of picking the exact same one are pretty long with the incredible amount of excellent songs that they have, but stranger things have certainly happened.
Apologies in advance if I'm inadvertently echoing the recent choice...

Iron Maiden - Dance of Death

 

[onanismaddict]

Day 7: A song that’s 5+ minutes long

Lost Together - Blue Rodeo

Damn... this song brings back so many memories!
Really sad, extremely happy... and every point in between.
(Music can stir such powerful emotional memories.)
Thank you so much for sharing this one! I luv it...