Disrespect for the Dead in Arlington National Cemetery

[SmokingFap]

Yeah... BUT... respect gets you more dates when you demonstrate you know what it is and share it. Have you ever seen a girl smile when you offer to open the door for her instead of just standing there and letting her open it herself?

Uhh, yeah? That's hardly what we're talking about here, is it?

If a person seems unworthy of respect, one doesn't have to respond in like measure. One could just be 'tempered' and count to ten, as an old saying goes.

I don't know that saying. And I'm generally not the type to "turn the other cheek", which is an old saying that most people do know.

 

[dmallord]

OOH! OOH! I know! I know! Not really funny, actually it’s really sad. So much hatred!

What you don’t see is incessant vile criticism of Biden but every other post Trump is constantly and consistently vilified.

It's also funny how some individuals seem to stir hatred here while proclaiming they are innocent.

Biden and Trump are like old cowboy western actors. One wears a white hat, and the other wears a black hat to distinguish them. Of course, one sometimes wears a badge as well, while the other slaps women or robs banks and shoots victims in the back on occasion. The movies make it pretty evident who the audience should favor.

I sense the same is playing out in real life with the two real characters you mention. One is perceived as serving his country honorably for over fifty years in politics; even if you disagree with him, that's a given. The other black hat character is living up to the bad guy role: insurrectionist, election denier, all-around morally corrupt fellow treating women badly, veterans as well, and struggling to escape conviction and pending convictions, all the while running for the Presidency. That's a new cowboy twist in the modern world.

Now, with all that said, tell me again how you are surprised that Trump, in every other post, gets more ridicule than Biden. It really is not a surprise at all.

 

[dmallord]

Uhh, yeah? That's hardly what we're talking about here, is it?

I don't know that saying. And I'm generally not the type to "turn the other cheek", which is an old saying that most people do know.

You are correct; it was not the topic but an attempt to lighten the mood for a few moments to take a collective breath.

You may have heard the expression as, "Be slow to anger. Count to ten before you answer another's insult." It's the idea that lashing out immediately may give you cause for regretting your words later. Ten seconds of time to think over your response sometimes gives you added time for a better response.

 

[icanhelp1]

It's also funny how some individuals seem to stir hatred here while proclaiming they are innocent.

Biden and Trump are like old cowboy western actors. One wears a white hat, and the other wears a black hat to distinguish them. Of course, one sometimes wears a badge as well, while the other slaps women or robs banks and shoots victims in the back on occasion. The movies make it pretty evident who the audience should favor.

I sense the same is playing out in real life with the two real characters you mention. One is perceived as serving his country honorably for over fifty years in politics; even if you disagree with him, that's a given. The other black hat character is living up to the bad guy role: insurrectionist, election denier, all-around morally corrupt fellow treating women badly, veterans as well, and struggling to escape conviction and pending convictions, all the while running for the Presidency. That's a new cowboy twist in the modern world.

Now, with all that said, tell me again how you are surprised that Trump, in every other post, gets more ridicule than Biden. It really is not a surprise at all.

You're quite the spin doctor. Sometimes I wonder if you're trying to convince me or trying to convince yourself.

I've listed five of the most morally corrupt democrat heroes and yet you Trump haters continue to make believe you hold the moral high ground. Your TDS is corrupting your moral compass;

John F Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
Ted Kennedy
Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton

 

[dmallord]

You're quite the spin doctor. Sometimes I wonder if you're trying to convince me or trying to convince yourself.

I've listed five of the most morally corrupt democrat heroes and yet you Trump haters continue to make believe you hold the moral high ground. Your TDS is corrupting your moral compass;

John F Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
Ted Kennedy
Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton

My intention is not to persuade you, but to highlight your apparent struggle in distinguishing facts from falsehoods. Even when presented with irrefutable evidence, you seem to dismiss it as baseless. It's as if you're immune to reason.

I noticed that when I gave you a clear timeline to follow in Walz's retirement, you didn't reply or acknowledge that it refuted your claims. Instead, you are here again, taking a red herring approach.

Nice list, but it has nothing to do with Trump's failing campaign. This election is not a child's battle of words like, 'My dad is better than your dad!' or, in your case, 'My corrupt leader is no worse than your alleged past corrupt leaders!'

@icanhelp1 you have no moral compass that I can detect. You've lost your North Star moral conscience assuming you ever had one.

 

[icanhelp1]

My intention is not to persuade you, but to highlight your apparent struggle in distinguishing facts from falsehoods. Even when presented with irrefutable evidence, you seem to dismiss it as baseless. It's as if you're immune to reason.

I noticed that when I gave you a clear timeline to follow in Walz's retirement, you didn't reply or acknowledge that it refuted your claims. Instead, you are here again, taking a red herring approach.

Nice list, but it has nothing to do with Trump's failing campaign. This election is not a child's battle of words like, 'My dad is better than your dad!' or, in your case, 'My corrupt leader is no worse than your alleged past corrupt leaders!'

@icanhelp1 you have no moral compass that I can detect. You've lost your North Star moral conscience assuming you ever had one.

When a formal Bn commander, well just saying. Also there are other soldiers ( high ranking NCOs) that believe he had prior knowledge of a possible deployment. Like I wrote earlier, my experience with deployment orders they're usually in the hands of Bde and Bn commanders 90 to 120 days prior to official notification to unit commanders. Walz as acting CSM I'm sure was either Bn or Bde senior level staff. CSMs are critical ancillary assistants to senior commanders and are privy to almost all classified material any commander is entrusted with.


https://apnews.com/article/walz-mil...esota-harris-8a74ff39f0a698247b28bf4266f20773

A former battalion commander of Walz's National Guard unit also issued a scathing rebuke of the way the Minnesota governor has described his military rank since retiring and entering politics, writing on Facebook that Walz "did not earn the rank or successfully complete any assignment as an E9," referring to the governor's repeated use of the title.

"It is an affront to the Noncommissioned Officer Corps that he continues to glom onto the title. I can sit in the cockpit of an airplane, it does not make me a pilot. Similarly, when the demands of service and leadership at the highest level got real, he chose another path," wrote John Kolb, who became lieutenant colonel of his Minnesota unit shortly after Walz retired and launched his bid for Congress. When reached for comment, Kolb told ABC News that his statement "speaks for itself."

A line in Walz's bio on the Harris-Walz campaign website also initially described Walz as a "retired Command Sergeant Major in the Army National Guard," according to a review of the webpage via the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine.

The campaign later changed the wording to say Walz "served as a Command Sergeant Major."

'Artful omission'​

Responding to criticism of Walz, the Harris-Walz campaign has acknowledged there have been some discrepancies in how the Minnesota governor has described his military service in the past.

 

[adrina]

A former battalion commander of Walz's National Guard unit also issued a scathing rebuke of the way the Minnesota governor has described his military rank since retiring and entering politics, writing on Facebook that Walz "did not earn the rank or successfully complete any assignment as an E9," referring to the governor's repeated use of the title.

"It is an affront to the Noncommissioned Officer Corps that he continues to glom onto the title. I can sit in the cockpit of an airplane, it does not make me a pilot. Similarly, when the demands of service and leadership at the highest level got real, he chose another path," wrote John Kolb, who became lieutenant colonel of his Minnesota unit shortly after Walz retired and launched his bid for Congress. When reached for comment, Kolb told ABC News that his statement "speaks for itself."

A line in Walz's bio on the Harris-Walz campaign website also initially described Walz as a "retired Command Sergeant Major in the Army National Guard," according to a review of the webpage via the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine.

The campaign later changed the wording to say Walz "served as a Command Sergeant Major."

'Artful omission'​

Responding to criticism of Walz, the Harris-Walz campaign has acknowledged there have been some discrepancies in how the Minnesota governor has described his military service in the past.

Yup, Walz should have lied about bone spurs to avoid military duty and then he'd get your blessing.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Done with this!
‘rump’s side fucked up and will never admit to it

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time (see my recent posts regarding Kamala's phony accent for one example). That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

OTOH, I don't respect those who have proven they aren't worthy of my respect. These are the people who spread lies, hatred, division, and who support others who do the same because they get pleasure out of the cruelty of doing so.

Guess which list you made it onto.

Your respect???.......fuck I snorted my drink out of my nose reading that you fucking moron....no one here gives one shit if a person who thinks water is carbon based, 12 V Dc can kill, Truth Social is a good investment or ____ (I'm not wasting my time listing out all the fucked up, moronic things you think are true) respects them

If you gave me your respect I'd kill myself....that you continue to be able to survive on your own is a fucking miracle....

 

[dmallord]

When a formal Bn commander, well just saying. Also there are other soldiers ( high ranking NCOs) that believe he had prior knowledge of a possible deployment. Like I wrote earlier, my experience with deployment orders they're usually in the hands of Bde and Bn commanders 90 to 120 days prior to official notification to unit commanders. Walz as acting CSM I'm sure was either Bn or Bde senior level staff. CSMs are critical ancillary assistants to senior commanders and are privy to almost all classified material any commander is entrusted with.

'Well just saying' is like saying 'I reckon, so, maybe so, or could be so.' Like I wrote earlier... my experience with orders were... I' sure he was senior level... CsMs are privy to almost all classified material...

Jello support there fella... Speculation and not facts stated or presented

https://apnews.com/article/walz-mil...esota-harris-8a74ff39f0a698247b28bf4266f20773

A former battalion commander of Walz's National Guard unit also issued a scathing rebuke of the way the Minnesota governor has described his military rank since retiring and entering politics, writing on Facebook that Walz "did not earn the rank or successfully complete any assignment as an E9," referring to the governor's repeated use of the title.

He received the promotion in 2004 and retired in 2005. You're saying he served for an entire year at a CSM position and "did not earn the rank or successfully complete any assignment as an E9?" No one gets paid not to do anything. He performed the CSM duties; he was the man with the rank pinned on his collar.

"It is an affront to the Noncommissioned Officer Corps that he continues to glom onto the title. I can sit in the cockpit of an airplane, it does not make me a pilot. Similarly, when the demands of service and leadership at the highest level got real, he chose another path," wrote John Kolb, who became lieutenant colonel of his Minnesota unit shortly after Walz retired and launched his bid for Congress. When reached for comment, Kolb told ABC News that his statement "speaks for itself."

A line in Walz's bio on the Harris-Walz campaign website also initially described Walz as a "retired Command Sergeant Major in the Army National Guard," according to a review of the webpage via the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine.

The campaign later changed the wording to say Walz "served as a Command Sergeant Major."

'Artful omission'​

Responding to criticism of Walz, the Harris-Walz campaign has acknowledged there have been some discrepancies in how the Minnesota governor has described his military service in the past.

Thank you, Mr. official orders clerk, for pointing this out.

 

[jomar]

The trouble with this statement is that is ASSUMES that Trump was there for a campaign event (or stunt as you put it) when THE TRUTH is that he was invited by Gold Star families to participate in a wreath laying ceremony.

So your statement is lie. Worse, it's a KNOWING LIE because you've been told all of this at least once already.

So, you spew shit and expect accolades for it when all you deserve is derision and scorn.

Your blinders and unerring expertise in misunderstanding what is before you are legendary.

Walz political career was a disaster.

He should have deployed with his unit. His political career could have waited.

When he re-enlisted and competed for the mtoe CSM slot I'm sure he understood that holding that slot was a time sensitive temporary position. Why would anyone accept the challenge to complete such rigorous training and academic requirements, strive to meet the promotion board standards and just up and quit mid stream. Your TDS has affected your objectivity. Why would any serious contender for such a prestigious rank quit mid stream? His unit received deployment order for Iraq and he quit! SUSPICIOUS at best.

If he was an actual CSM he would have retired as a CSM.

His unit deploys and Walz decides to exit stage left, nowhere to be found. His unit deploys into harms way and Walz quits his quest for CSM to campaign for a political position in his state. Then he has the audacity to publicly promote himself as a retired CSM, to falsely embellish his military service while his unit is serving in Iraq. If I was a CSM in his state I would be livid, I would publicly state for the record the truth concerning Walz's embellishments. He lacks integrity.

He, from what I read he was acting CSM with only one quiz or something left to take to meet full requirements but he retired before doing so. And that his unit’s deployment was to a support role in Italy not on the front line in Iraq.

So like all politicians he made things a wee bit bit shinier. And as you do, you misconstrue, omit pertinent facts and make much ado about little. But hey, when it’s all you got…!

 

[HisArpy]

If we're not allowed to disrespect someone for their convictions, their mocking of the military, the disabled, other ethnicities, genders, threats against judges, juries, witnesses, endless boasts and lies, what's left?

There's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between disrespect and disagreement.

That you don't know that difference only shows you to be a fool.

 

[HisArpy]

Blah blah blah.

Same ol same ol.

Yes, you do this a lot. Perhaps too much for your own good.

 

[Lazaran]

Yes, you do this a lot. Perhaps too much for your own good.

Can’t tell if Derpy is on his game or off his game today…



Derpy

 

[adrina]

Yes, you do this a lot. Perhaps too much for your own good.

Unserious.

 

[HisArpy]

Unserious.

If you're not serious, then you shouldn't be so vocal and visceral about defending your unserious posts.

 

[adrina]

Can’t tell if Derpy is on his game or off his game today…



Derpy

See above. ️

 

[Bray123]

There's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between disrespect and disagreement.

That you don't know that difference only shows you to be a fool.

Typical cheap lawyer tactic: Pretend that people said something different to what is clearly there.

Disrespect is what I used and is what I meant. It's also in the title of the thread.

 

[HisArpy]

Typical cheap lawyer tactic: Pretend that people said something different to what is clearly there.

Disrespect is what I used and is what I meant. It's also in the title of the thread.

Which underscores that you have no fucking clue what respect is, how to earn it, or what its worth when you need to spend it.

To disrespect someone over political disagreement only shows that you have no respect for yourself.

 

[ADIDAS00]

Wasn’t he invited by the families to attend? Not sure what’s so awful about it

 

[HisArpy]

Wasn’t he invited by the families to attend? Not sure what’s so awful about it

Yes Trump was invited. Yes the Army stonewalled and tried to prevent him from attending (and I hope to fucking god that whoever is in charge of ANC gets courtsmartialed for it after Trump wins the election) and only conceded after Speaker Mike Johnson got involved.

Then there was a "supposed" altercation between Trump's contingent and an unnamed ANC employee which suddenly morphed into "disrespecting the dead" after the press disgustingly began calling and badgering the families of those interred at ANC hoping to find one anti-Trump person they could quote.

The entire thing is manufactured and perpetuated by the Left and its hate-filled sycophants.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Yes Trump was invited. Yes the Army stonewalled and tried to prevent him from attending (and I hope to fucking god that whoever is in charge of ANC gets courtsmartialed for it after Trump wins the election) and only conceded after Speaker Mike Johnson got involved.

Then there was a "supposed" altercation between Trump's contingent and an unnamed ANC employee which suddenly morphed into "disrespecting the dead" after the press disgustingly began calling and badgering the families of those interred at ANC hoping to find one anti-Trump person they could quote.

The entire thing is manufactured and perpetuated by the Left and its hate-filled sycophants.

This is why Donald Trump should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office.

Courts-martial should be reserved for members of the military who violate military law. They’re not tools of vengeance for aggrieved politicians.

 

[Bn2f]

Wasn’t he invited by the families to attend? Not sure what’s so awful about it

You prolly should read through the thread or even your local news to get up to speed on the facts.

Yes Trump was invited. Yes the Army stonewalled and tried to prevent him from attending (and I hope to fucking god that whoever is in charge of ANC gets courtsmartialed for it after Trump wins the election) and only conceded after Speaker Mike Johnson got involved.

Then there was a "supposed" altercation between Trump's contingent and an unnamed ANC employee which suddenly morphed into "disrespecting the dead" after the press disgustingly began calling and badgering the families of those interred at ANC hoping to find one anti-Trump person they could quote.

The entire thing is manufactured and perpetuated by the Left and its hate-filled sycophants.

All this above is BS.

 

[Lazaran]

Yes Trump was invited. Yes the Army stonewalled and tried to prevent him from attending (and I hope to fucking god that whoever is in charge of ANC gets courtsmartialed for it after Trump wins the election) and only conceded after Speaker Mike Johnson got involved.

Then there was a "supposed" altercation between Trump's contingent and an unnamed ANC employee which suddenly morphed into "disrespecting the dead" after the press disgustingly began calling and badgering the families of those interred at ANC hoping to find one anti-Trump person they could quote.

The entire thing is manufactured and perpetuated by the Left and its hate-filled sycophants.

We’re at Derp-Con 2 folks.



Derpy

 

[Pad_Foot]

Wasn’t he invited by the families to attend? Not sure what’s so awful about it

So imagine you invited some folks to your country club and they ignore the signs
“Don’t shit on our lawn!”
Do you get it’s not their private cemetery and there are rules?
‘Rump’s excuse is “I was invited” “I didn’t here the warning” “I don’t know who did it”

The political use of pictures and video is on ‘Rump’s political website ?? Where does the buck stop?

When does the RESPECT begin?? He could take down his political hit job now. He could apologize

Ohhhh but Biden and Harris didn’t respect the families !!!
Ohhhhhhhhh but the deaths during the pullout are due to ‘rump’s decisions!!!

Trump met 4 returning planes. Total
Was he there when these 13 had their dignified transfer? Fuck No! Did Biden send Harris? Fuck no! Why isn’t the media reminding us of this? !!! Honestly !!
Was there a military review of the whole tragedy? Fuck yes!!!

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/29/politics/biden-dover-afghanistan-service-members-killed

Do presidents become penpals with all the fallen ???