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Sure. I believe that people will certainly have different experiences with different threads. There is truly not going to be any one size fits all kind of thread. I would be shocked if your story is the norm. But perhaps it is and maybe I am just wrong about that particular thread.

And for what it's worth, my comment on that thread being exclusionary wasn't because I believe it's intentionally so. My assertion is that the nature of a fast moving thread makes it more difficult to interact for newcomers who don't understand the jokes that are often referenced in that kind of speedy interaction. That's not to say that my perception is necessarily correct, either. I'm sure your story isn't an isolated instance at all. I may be looking at it through my lens as someone who prefers threads with more girth.
Have you always talked out of your ass or is it something new you are trying out?

You basically just said "I have no idea if what you said is true but I'm going to guess it isn't."

I had a similar experience in that thread (shenanigans) starting a little over a year ago. I think OP was the only regular I knew in there.

I would bet @morelikeasong @vagrantx @UnquietDreams @SalaciousMonkey22 and many more had similar experiences.
 
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You are correct S&S can move at breakneck speed but people have shown up, found a subject they were interested in and joined in. You are incorrect that it isn't inclusive. There is little doubt the lion's share of the credit for that goes to @crazychemgirl who goes out of her way to make new folks feel welcome and included.

As with everywhere in Lit, there are exceptions. TS's problem (I'm guessing he's young) was he choose a couple of women in there and continually quoted them and tried to make sexual innuendo jokes. It was the equivalent of seeing a women at a bar and using "I like your skirt but I'd like it even better in my bedroom floor" as your introductory line. Some folks tried to steer him in a better direction with humor. It didn't work.
But by all means you should interject opinion into the situation without facts. Telling me I don't know what Woody was saying when you've read 2 of his posts is comical.
I made some dad jokes at best and didn’t do what you’re talking about in the S&S thread. Ask any person here if if I PM’ed them with anything inappropriate. Also, I probably only made 10 posts in that thread total.
 
I mean, I can't imagine that's even debatable. Of course someone who projects being a hot girl has a different experience. Have you never heard the term pretty privilege? Probably not because I just made it up. Although I'm certain someone else has used it before.
I would say that being pretty has a lot less to do with how well you do on an Internet forum than in daily life.

Or do you think men only care about how pretty a woman is, even online?
I actually had a thread about the economics of Lit. I postulate that the most successful men here (like the very top tier guys) actually have it best. Not in terms of quantity. Any woman can get a chat friend right now if they want to. They can get 20 if they post their tits. Again, it doesn't matter what the quality is. But I think the number of quality guys who can write well, act respectful, engage in interesting conversation, etc. is smaller than the number of women who can do the same. So a larger pool of women are competing for a smaller pool of quality men. Think luxury item is inferior goods to put it in simple economic terms.

Now I'm certain some women here are going to deny that, in which case they should post their names here. That won't cause a stir. :D

I don't think there's less quality men here than women.

I think overall the women on here are more intelligent and/ or interesting than most of the men here. I'm guessing it is because it takes a certain type of woman to want to be on the lit playground. But there are some really great men too. Even though their average drags them down, there's enough men in sheer numbers to make it so that the quality men aren't really a luxury item. It may take a while to weed out the riff raft but it's not really hard for us to talk to the men we want to talk to.
 
I want to start by saying that I am glad that you have found a place in S&S. There are some amazing people in that thread and genuine connection can be found-for sure.

With that being said, as someone that has felt incredibly included, included when I have excluded myself and completely ignored in S&S your experience is not the majority experience. I am not saying that the majority experience is exclusion but what Pmann said, “ It's a place for people who know one another to banter.” Really holds true. The number of folks that receive hostile or negative responses is low and often deserving. TSWoody coming in hot to a thread where they presumably don’t know the situation is not a great idea. However if you watch the thread you will see that some posters receive a lot of responses or feedback and some little to none. This is where I see it as a place for folks that are familiar with each other to get to know chat and banter with each other.

I am not saying S&S is bad-at all but sometimes folks that receive responses and have others interact with them do not see it in the same way.
As for being fast paced I think S&S is th fastest paced thread on lit on average if you look at how many pages have been generated and how much time it took.

who is deciding this? What is a good reason? Is exclusion actively being mean or just not engaging? Actively mean is not seen often but not engaging-seen a lot more frequently.

And who is deciding this? I am not asking for myself but as a person who was a part of the thread at its inception and has been a part of this thread actively and then not so I think the bigger picture may be different than your experience.

I am also not comparing this thread to any historical threads or pre and post covid as I can not speak to that. Looking at one particular thread and what happens can be just as important as comparing changes in lit over history.

And again, I am not saying there is anything wrong with S&S but it is not a perfect example of inclusivity and open acceptance.
Hostile begets hostile.
You reap what you sow.
This is rich coming from someone who started a thread so she could spew hate.

You managed to alienate the nicest, kindest person in the history of this site. Your opinion has no value.
 
Have you always talked out of your ass or is it something new you are trying out?

You basically just said "I have no idea if what you said is true but I'm going to guess it isn't."

I had a similar experience in that thread starting a little over a year ago. I think OP was the only regular I knew in there.

I would bet @morelikeasong @vagrantx @UnquietDreams @SalaciousMonkey22 and many more had similar experiences.



Again, not sure why you're so angry about what has been a healthy discussion.

The content of a statement is neither negated or affirmed by a person's reputation if the statement is a good statement.

I don't really understand what the bold part means... because no, that's not essentially what I said.

Many of the things we are discussing are matters of opinion. There will be different opinions. I know some people really like the thread and feel welcome. I made a statement from my point of view and made for the provision that I can be wrong. If you are so set in your ways that you can't make for that possibility, then you should reconsider how you approach topics of discussion. Several people have mentioned that they don't feel that the thread is inclusive, by nature. Even some of those you tagged.

It's a healthy discussion, bogey. I'm not sure what kind of bad day you're having, but take a breath. Crank up that oxygen machine and sit back and have a breather. :) It'll be alright, bogey.
 
@hotwords229_A has there been a discussion about circumcision? I know there was a map of %’s of circumsized men posted on the cock map thread but has the chance to diacuss it here passed?

Edited to fix my ding dong typos.
This thread has become the new S&S. For now at least. We're gonna get this ship in to the shore and throw away the oars at some point. Get back on track with talkin dong
 
Again, not sure why you're so angry about what has been a healthy discussion.

The content of a statement is neither negated or affirmed by a person's reputation if the statement is a good statement.

I don't really understand what the bold part means... because no, that's not essentially what I said.

Many of the things we are discussing are matters of opinion. There will be different opinions. I know some people really like the thread and feel welcome. I made a statement from my point of view and made for the provision that I can be wrong. If you are so set in your ways that you can't make for that possibility, then you should reconsider how you approach topics of discussion. Several people have mentioned that they don't feel that the thread is inclusive, by nature. Even some of those you tagged.

It's a healthy discussion, bogey. I'm not sure what kind of bad day you're having, but take a breath. Crank up that oxygen machine and sit back and have a breather. :) It'll be alright, bogey.
I'm not angry at all. Why are you now making assumptions about me?
 
You are correct S&S can move at breakneck speed but people have shown up, found a subject they were interested in and joined in. You are incorrect that it isn't inclusive. There is little doubt the lion's share of the credit for that goes to @crazychemgirl who goes out of her way to make new folks feel welcome and included.

As with everywhere in Lit, there are exceptions. TS's problem (I'm guessing he's young) was he choose a couple of women in there and continually quoted them and tried to make sexual innuendo jokes. It was the equivalent of seeing a women at a bar and using "I like your skirt but I'd like it even better in my bedroom floor" as your introductory line. Some folks tried to steer him in a better direction with humor. It didn't work.
But by all means you should interject opinion into the situation without facts. Telling me I don't know what Woody was saying when you've read 2 of his posts is comical.
I did my best, And tried to be kind when he came after me in this thread. There are a lot of guys who come in hot and do not understand that you have to treat women the same way. You treat them and your real life. There's a human being behind these avatars.
 
Well, that's what the Lit Welcome Committee is for. They help the new, doe-eyed Listers find their way. :D

Lit is absolutely individualized. But one can't help but notice that an attractive girl is going to have a very different experience than, say, an average man or woman. I don't mean that in any negative light. But the experiences of many people here are definitely based on a number of factors, looks being very high on that list. To your point, that is part of why the experiences are so individualized.
So rationalize @positiveflirt 's experience and mine.
 
You're telling me. It's either the lesbos or because I set a timer on certain pics to delete after 5 minutes. Probably the former though, because I'm certain that everyone sits on the edge of their seat to see whether the great, might, and proportionately hung default has posted
Your pics get likes? No, I’m not jelly……at all.
 
As a person who had been on and off lit since 2006, I can definitely say that what Woody said has truth to it. It’s obvious from the people who liked his post because they too are people who’ve been on lit forever. As I have read through this thread, I can see that it started with a comment regarding cliques and it came across as a joke to me. Where this has gone reminds me of Grant55’s initial intro to lit. It seems to me that it hit a nerve, because otherwise, why has this been blown up so much. Perhaps just reflect on that a little?
 
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