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[komesh]

Here is more evidence of destroying the houses and lives of the incense people!!!
These people are humans, not animals as the defense minister of Israel calls them animals.
So, obviously we can not buy love by seeing these pics, but hate. That's why the hate rises!!

 

[Lazaran]

If Hamas fought fair." My god, you are politically naive. We'll just put that on the laugh shelf with "Hamas should surrender," shall we?

You seriously don’t understand the reason decent, intelligent people bring in the issue of Hamas not fighting “fair” and the suggestion that “Hamas should surrender” in light of the INCESSANT demands that Israel should fight “fair”, and that Israel should end the war while Hamas is still in control of Gaza???



Context and a bit of PURPOSEFUL cynical / sarcastic rhetoric are fairly important elements to consider when judging the statements relating to Hamas fighting “fair” and Hamas “surrendering” that are being made by decent, intelligent people who want the war to end differently than some other people do.

 

[KeithD]

You seriously don’t understand the reason decent, intelligent people bring in the issue of Hamas not fighting “fair” and the suggestion that “Hamas should surrender” in light of the INCESSANT demands that Israel should fight “fair”, and that Israel should end the war while Hamas is still in control of Gaza???

You, among others, are seriously a mental baby in understanding how the world works and what the parameters are in hoping to get something done.

I'm done with you naive people.

 

[Lazaran]

You, among others, are seriously a mental baby in understanding how the world works and what the parameters are in hoping to get something done.

I'm done with you naive people.

You SHOULD probably be “done”, because you aren’t keeping up with the context, sarcasm, and cynicism in the exchanges.

 

[komesh]

The Zionists invaded Palestine. There were already people there. Israel has spent eighty years subjugating, corralling, and marginalizing the people who they invaded. If you want to go back further, Moses' tribe invaded what was later Palestine. There were already people there. First stop was wiping out every living thing in Jericho.

Don't talk to me about dreams of homeland and "wiping out." Yes, nothing is going to work until the extremists are separated from the people on the street. But just stop saying it's the Palestinians who have to do this. It's the Israelis that do this too--And, honey child, it's the Israelis who were the invaders. As long as you won't get past demanding only from Palestinians, you're part of the problem, not the solution.

Yes, the Zionist's idealogy is the greatest enemy of the Israeli people, otherwise, the Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace together. If we do not give rights to the Palestinians who have lived in Palestine for more than 3000 years, to have their state, there would not be any peace for both sides. It is the only fact that BB has to understand otherwise the victims are not only Palestinians but also Israelis.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Two decades ago Israel withdrew from Gaza. They haven't been "trying to wipe it out".

The Israelis subsequently created a 17 year naval blockade of Gaza, prohibiting international trade and the importation of food, fuel and medical supplies. And some Israeli politicians joked that they succeeded in creating the "world's largest outdoor prison".

Slow strangulation of an entire populace over the course of almost two decades certainly fits MY definition of "trying to wipe it out". YMMV.

 

[ExxWhyZee]

The Israelis subsequently created a 17 year naval blockade of Gaza, prohibiting international trade and the importation of food, fuel and medical supplies. And some Israeli politicians joked that they succeeded in creating the "world's largest outdoor prison".

Slow strangulation of an entire populace over the course of almost two decades certainly fits MY definition of "trying to wipe it out". YMMV.

Good

 

[ExxWhyZee]

Oh

https://twitter.com/x/status/1801535680733950355

Screw em all

 

[censurat]

BUT THEY DIDN’T WANT TO: Hamas Could Have let those Hostages Just Drive Away, Saving 200+ Civilians: The rescue of four Israeli hostages on Saturday was going well, with few casualties. Until Hamas attacked and tried to kill the escaping hostages.

 

[RobDownSouth]

BUT THEY DIDN’T WANT TO: Hamas Could Have let those Hostages Just Drive Away, Saving 200+ Civilians: The rescue of four Israeli hostages on Saturday was going well, with few casualties. Until Hamas attacked and tried to kill the escaping hostages.

There's also the possibility that the IDF used the cover story of "hostage rescue" to justify killing 200+ civilians without fear of reprisal. The IDF has a documented history of indifference towards civilian casualties in Gaza.

 

[Rightguide]

Poll: 67% of Palestinians Support October 7 Attack, Expect Hamas to Win​

185Joel Pollak / Breitbart News

A new poll by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) reveals that 67% of Palestinians still support the October 7 terror attacks, and the same proportion believe that Hamas will win the war with Israel.

The proportion of Palestinians who support the October 7 attack has fallen only 4% since a similar poll in March.

The poll shows that the drop in support for October 7 was entirely in Gaza, where support fell from 71% to 53%. Support for the October 7 attacks among Palestinians in the West Bank, far from the fighting, actually rose 2%.

The poll’s authors noted that 82% of respondents believe that October 7 and the war have “revived international attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that it could lead to increased recognition of Palestinian statehood.”

More here: https://www.breitbart.com/middle-ea...support-october-7-attack-expect-hamas-to-win/

 

[ll74]

Poll: 67% of Palestinians Support October 7 Attack, Expect Hamas to Win​

185Joel Pollak / Breitbart News

A new poll by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) reveals that 67% of Palestinians still support the October 7 terror attacks, and the same proportion believe that Hamas will win the war with Israel.

The proportion of Palestinians who support the October 7 attack has fallen only 4% since a similar poll in March.

The poll shows that the drop in support for October 7 was entirely in Gaza, where support fell from 71% to 53%. Support for the October 7 attacks among Palestinians in the West Bank, far from the fighting, actually rose 2%.

The poll’s authors noted that 82% of respondents believe that October 7 and the war have “revived international attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that it could lead to increased recognition of Palestinian statehood.”

More here: https://www.breitbart.com/middle-ea...support-october-7-attack-expect-hamas-to-win/

Israel's war is really winning the hearts and minds of Palestinians!

 

[Rightguide]

US humanitarian aid pier off Gaza to halt shipments for 3rd time in a month​

The U.S. military is planning to suspend operations of its pier off Gaza on Friday, temporarily moving the floating structure to an Israeli port to ride out high seas and rough waves expected to hit the region in coming days, according to an official familiar with the plans.

It's the third time in a month that the structure halted operations due to weather and is the latest setback for the ambitious $230 million humanitarian project involving 1,000 US troops.

"We are doing everything we can to make it work," the official said.

Complicating the matter is that humanitarian aid that has been transported ashore via the pier is being held at a nearby facility after the U.N. suspended deliveries last week due to security concerns. The U.N. said Friday it does not have a timeline for when distribution might resume.

More here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...noperable-for-3rd-time-in-a-month/ar-BB1oe8wK

Washington is not telling truth about the Gaza pier

They say food is ‘flowing’ to the people, but data shows the opposite. Pull the curtain down on this theater now.​

STEPHEN SEMLER
JUN 12, 2024


The Biden administration wants you to believe the U.S. is leading international efforts to get humanitarian relief into Gaza and that supplies are “flowing to Palestinians” via the military’s pier operation there.

On Monday, Pentagon spokesman Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder announced that to date,1,573 tons of aid had been delivered from the pier to the beach, including 492 tons since it reopened on Saturday after some bad weather knocked it out of commission last month.
But supplies from the pier aren’t flowing to Palestinians, and never really have.

Hardly any food from the pier on the Gaza coast has actually reached starving Gazans since it became operational on May 17. The World Food Program (WFP) said only 15 trucks from the pier reached its warehouse inside Gaza for distribution from May 17-18, and that no aid came from the pier from May 19–21.

More here: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/how-much-aid-gaza-pier/

 

[ll74]

US humanitarian aid pier off Gaza to halt shipments for 3rd time in a month​

The U.S. military is planning to suspend operations of its pier off Gaza on Friday, temporarily moving the floating structure to an Israeli port to ride out high seas and rough waves expected to hit the region in coming days, according to an official familiar with the plans.

It's the third time in a month that the structure halted operations due to weather and is the latest setback for the ambitious $230 million humanitarian project involving 1,000 US troops.

"We are doing everything we can to make it work," the official said.

Complicating the matter is that humanitarian aid that has been transported ashore via the pier is being held at a nearby facility after the U.N. suspended deliveries last week due to security concerns. The U.N. said Friday it does not have a timeline for when distribution might resume.

More here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...noperable-for-3rd-time-in-a-month/ar-BB1oe8wK

Washington is not telling truth about the Gaza pier

They say food is ‘flowing’ to the people, but data shows the opposite. Pull the curtain down on this theater now.​

STEPHEN SEMLER
JUN 12, 2024


The Biden administration wants you to believe the U.S. is leading international efforts to get humanitarian relief into Gaza and that supplies are “flowing to Palestinians” via the military’s pier operation there.

On Monday, Pentagon spokesman Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder announced that to date,1,573 tons of aid had been delivered from the pier to the beach, including 492 tons since it reopened on Saturday after some bad weather knocked it out of commission last month.
But supplies from the pier aren’t flowing to Palestinians, and never really have.

Hardly any food from the pier on the Gaza coast has actually reached starving Gazans since it became operational on May 17. The World Food Program (WFP) said only 15 trucks from the pier reached its warehouse inside Gaza for distribution from May 17-18, and that no aid came from the pier from May 19–21.

More here: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/how-much-aid-gaza-pier/

Do you support getting aid to people who need it or no?

 

[Rightguide]

Do you support getting aid to people who need it or no?

It depends. I support some private ventures, but it isn't the burden of the American taxpayer to shoulder the burden of their atrocious aggression against their neighbor. I said early on the pier and the use of our military to construct it was a bad idea.

 

[ll74]

It depends. I support some private ventures, but it isn't the burden of the American taxpayer to shoulder the burden of their atrocious aggression against their neighbor. I said early on the pier and the use of our military to construct it was a bad idea.

So you don't support aid to people in need unless they meet your criteria.

Got it.

 

[Rightguide]

So you don't support aid to people in need unless they meet your criteria.

Got it.

I don't support terrorist states.

 

[ll74]

I don't support terrorist states.

Whee did I mention terrorists?

 

[Rightguide]

Whee did I mention terrorists?

Doesn't matter, I did. Gaza for all intents and purposes is a terror state. They voted for Hamas and the vast majority of the people there supported Oct.7.

 

[ll74]

Doesn't matter, I did. Gaza for all intents and purposes is a terror state. They voted for Hamas and the vast majority of the people there supported Oct.7.

So you don't support giving aid to people in need and you dehumanize those people to make yourself feel better.

Got it.

 

[Rightguide]

So you don't support giving aid to people in need and you dehumanize those people to make yourself feel better.

Got it.

Hamas was a product of the people of Gaza. The loss of innocent lives in Israel's response is on Hamas and its Arab supporters alone. They have a right to eradicate Hamas to the last man.

 

[ll74]

Hamas was a product of the people of Gaza. The loss of innocent lives in Israel's response is on Hamas and its Arab supporters alone. They have a right to eradicate Hamas to the last man.

You continue to demonstrate my point. Conflation is civilians and terrorists is not productive.

 

[Rightguide]

You continue to demonstrate my point. Conflation is civilians and terrorists is not productive.

Terrorists are civilians.

 

[ll74]

Terrorists are civilians.

Civilians don't engage in hostilities.

Probably should study up a bit.

Then again, you believe all Democrats are terrorists, so it's no wonder that rules of engagement in war is an issue for you.

 

[komesh]

Doesn't matter, I did. Gaza for all intents and purposes is a terror state. They voted for Hamas and the vast majority of the people there supported Oct.7.

First of not all the Palestinian are agreed with Hamas, second of all when more than 7000 kids were killed by Israeli army, it is clear that they will support Hamas, no matter Hamas is a terrorist group or a nationalist group.