Monday, April 15th: First Ever Criminal Trial for a Former US President

[HisArpy]

Dumb fuck,

What were the crimes Michael Cohen went to prison for? Part of it was conspiracy with “Individual 1” for which he pled guilty in 2018, well within the two year statute of imitations for a misdemeanor. In the recent hush money trial Cohen testified and evidence showed that Trump was a co-conspirator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cohen_(lawyer)
(There are sources available besides Wiki if you want to do your homework.)

In August 2018, Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts including campaign-finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Cohen said he violated campaign-finance laws at Trump's direction "for the principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 Presidential Election.


What was the secondary crime that elevated the business docs falsification to a felony? Read it again, you fucking dumb ass:

§ 17-152. Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Any two or more
persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to
a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by
one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.


Are you going to argue that the Federal charges agains Cohen can’t be used to elevate the charges in NY state? Read 17-152 again.

And those crimes were testified to/evidence entered into at the trial?

The answer is; no they weren't. So, what crime?

 

[HisArpy]

Case in point.

It seems to me that you don't understand ANY of the words you use.

 

[adrina]

It seems to me that you don't understand ANY of the words you use.

This is lame - even for you.

But then you have multiple problems beyond just self awareness. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Bn2f]

To my righteous and extremely patient friends here on the Left trying now for days to give an honest representation of truth and justice - this is what you’re up against:

Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'​

 

[AlexBailey]

Not true he already knew the answer. He wanted to see if you did.

Then fuck him.

 

[AlexBailey]

And those crimes were testified to/evidence entered into at the trial?

The answer is; no they weren't. So, what crime?

Cohen testified to the conspiracy.

You tell me, little bitch. Why did the jury find him guilty?

 

[Rightguide]

True. And Judge Merchan would not even allow the jury to hear expert testimony on federal election law as applied to the facts of the case.

The Communist Judge opted for a Star Chamber proceeding.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

And those crimes were testified to/evidence entered into at the trial?

The answer is; no they weren't. So, what crime?

One would have to think that Trump’s attorneys would make a motion about this.

 

[Rightguide]

You tell me, little bitch. Why did the jury find him guilty?

Because the jury instructions by the prosecuting Judge allowed it.

 

[Lazaran]

And those crimes were testified to/evidence entered into at the trial?

The answer is; no they weren't. So, what crime?

The prosecution spent DAYS showing / proving to the jury that the election / campaign laws WERE violated, AND that the corrupt orange traitor’s falsification of business records was in service to that crime.

The JURY accepted the prosecution’s argument.

BOOM!!!

Also:

There is NOTHING in New York law that states the corrupt orange traitor had to be convicted of the crime that elevated the misdemeanor crime to a felony.

BOOM!!! BOOM!!!

Derpy just can’t / won’t accept that the corrupt orange traitor did EXACTLY what the corrupt orange traitor was CHARGED WITH and CONVICTED OF.

Translation for Derpy (idiots):

He. Did. It.

They. Got. Him. Now.



Derpy

 

[Fuzzy1975]

True. And Judge Merchan would not even allow the jury to hear expert testimony on federal election law as applied to the facts of the case.

Nope that is not what Merchan did, he limited his scope to question only about the charges, and that if the defence called him, that would then allow the Prosecution up to offer up rebuttal witness's.

The Defence could have called him, they chose not to, after the Judge ruled on the scope of his testimony.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The prosecution spent DAYS showing / proving to the jury that the election / campaign laws WERE violated, AND that the corrupt orange traitor’s falsification of business records was in service to that crime.

The JURY accepted the prosecution’s argument.

BOOM!!!

Also:

There is NOTHING in New York law that states the corrupt orange traitor had to be convicted of the crime that elevated the misdemeanor crime to a felony.

BOOM!!! BOOM!!!

Derpy just can’t / won’t accept that the corrupt orange traitor did EXACTLY what the corrupt orange traitor was CHARGED WITH and CONVICTED OF.

Translation for Derpy (idiots):

He. Did. It.

They. Got. Him. Now.



Derpy

lol why bother, the fucking guy thinks water is carbon based, and you can die from touching the terminals of a 12 volt car battery...

 

[Lazaran]

lol why bother, the fucking guy thinks

LIAR!!!

 

[AlexBailey]

Because the jury instructions by the prosecuting Judge allowed it.

Read the Law.

“…intent to defraud….”

The intent was proven - conviction of the elevating crime not required.

Ҥ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.”

 

[Lazaran]

Read the Law.

“…with an intent to defraud….”

The intent was proven - conviction of the elevating crime not required.

Ҥ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.”

At this point, it’s painfully obvious that Derpy is actively avoiding the truth and attempting to muddy the carbon based waters.



Gaslighting sealions, like Derpy, REALLY love muddy carbon based waters…just as long as no one drops a 12 volt car battery into those muddy carbon based waters and electrocutes them to death…



Derpy



Side note:

Keep up the good work Alex!!!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Nope that is not what Merchan did, he limited his scope to question only about the charges, and that if the defence called him, that would then allow the Prosecution up to offer up rebuttal witness's.

The Defence could have called him, they chose not to, after the Judge ruled on the scope of his testimony.

This is what Merchan would not allow:

In a pretrial decision, Merchan ruled that Smith could “not testify as a lay (fact) witness; offer opinion testimony regarding the interpretation and application of federal campaign finance laws and how they relate to the facts in the instant matter, nor may Smith testify or offer an opinion as to whether the alleged conduct in this case does or does not constitute a violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act.”

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This is what Merchan would not allow:

In a pretrial decision, Merchan ruled that Smith could “not testify as a lay (fact) witness; offer opinion testimony regarding the interpretation and application of federal campaign finance laws and how they relate to the facts in the instant matter, nor may Smith testify or offer an opinion as to whether the alleged conduct in this case does or does not constitute a violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act.”

Yes, I posted that. You posted this:

True. And Judge Merchan would not even allow the jury to hear expert testimony on federal election law as applied to the facts of the case.

The above is not what Merchan did, but thanks now for coming back and clearing up your factually incorrect post.

 

[Lazaran]

Yes, I posted that. You posted this:

The above is not what Merchan did, but thanks now for coming back and clearing up your factually incorrect post.

BabyBoobs’, and Derpy’s (etc) , first mistake was "thinking" they’re smarter than their betters.



BabyBoobs’ and Derpy’s (etc) second mistake was "thinking" their LIES and GASLIGHTING would go unnoticed and unrebuffed.



BabyBoobs and Derpy (etc)

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Yes, I posted that. You posted this:

The above is not what Merchan did, but thanks now for coming back and clearing up your factually incorrect post.

Nowhere did I say Smith wasn’t allowed to testify. I said he wasn’t allowed to testify on federal election law as applied to the facts of the case. I followed with a direct quote from Merchan’s ruling on that point.

 

[Bn2f]

Judge in Trump’s hush money trial did not bar campaign finance expert from testifying for defense​

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-brad-smith-testify-trump-trial-907236056289

Trump’s legal team chose to not call on him after the judge on Monday declined to broaden the scope of questioning the defense could pursue. The ruling echoed his pretrial ruling on the matter

 

[Bn2f]

^^^^^^^^^^^
Ugh. Hate that I just followed up correcting these idiots and things already adjudicated. F these people!

 

[Rotadom]

You've posted the language of the law.

Now, now. I'm sure he didn't mean to confuse you.

 

[Lazaran]

Nowhere did I say Smith wasn’t allowed to testify. I said he wasn’t allowed to testify on federal election law as applied to the facts of the case. I followed with a direct quote from Merchan’s ruling on that point.

Side note:

This is the Brad Smith that was going to testify:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/brad-smith-radically-wrong-fec







BabyBoobs

 

[Bn2f]

I stand up for the oppressed every day. It's literally my day job.

Babyboo, ican, RG… I just don’t get it.
Why waste so much capital defending trump? Listen to HisArp! There’s an oppressed victim right before your eyes that many here would respect if you defended with such vigor and who also aligns better with your values and his name is…

HUNTER BIDEN!

I’ll say again… Dropping his highly connected dad’s name (the Big Guy) in an effort to further his own selfish monetary gain. Evading government taxes. Being in possession of a firearm - legal restrictions be damned!

HOWDAFUK is Hunter Biden not a balls out freakin cult hero to you folks on the conservative right???

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Nowhere did I say Smith wasn’t allowed to testify. I said he wasn’t allowed to testify on federal election law as applied to the facts of the case. I followed with a direct quote from Merchan’s ruling on that point.

You obviously don't understand the ruling. Maybe don't post about legal matters.