Electric cars.

[Lazaran]

HisArpy is actually right about the danger of amps vs volts.

Amps vs. Volts: The Dangers of Electrical Shock

Shocking, right? Get it? Shocking. I crack me up.

But he’s wrong about oil production and supply.

In the context of the discussion, Derpy was nothing but WRONG for even bringing up “amps”.

 

[wizzard426]

at 30 MpG for an ICE car, the average EV would require 10 KWh of energy to go the same distance, or about a $1.10 in some markets.

Now factor for lights, wipers, heater, turn signals, stereo,

Then recharge it at -12.........

Don't forget to wait your turn!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Uhmmm, KANSAS has nothing to do with anything.

"The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon and 24.4 cents per gallon for diesel fuel."
Wiki

(That doesn't include state taxes.)

Question. What is the kW to gallon conversion? What is the kW equivalent of one gallon when it comes to a vehicle? How much should each kW be taxed? How do we convert our diesels and trains to electricity?

Think of the battery load in kG's on our road and rails. Batteries ain't light in this respect. Especially not compared to a gallon of gas and, again, patiently, we can equip gas vehicles with all sorts of carbon-capture technology, but how do we dispose of the used-up rare-earth batteries?

The altruist Utopian thinker rarely digs this deep for their materials (puns intended).

I based it on a flat Fed rate of 20 cents a gallon for the feds on Gasoline, so my number is actually less.....Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I based it on a flat Fed rate of 20 cents a gallon for the feds on Gasoline, so my number is actually less.....Thanks for correcting me.

Question. What is the kW to gallon conversion? What is the kW equivalent of one gallon when it comes to a vehicle? How much should each kW be taxed? How do we convert our diesels and trains to electricity?

A US gallon of 87 octane is equal to 45 HP of energy. A HP is equal to 746 watts. You claim to know something about math, you do the calculations.

 

[HisArpy]

You don’t have a clue about using electricity do you?


This is a 40.8 kWh lithium battery bank:




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BTW, this is part of an off grid solar power system that is used to charge up to 180 miles/day for Tesla EVs while the sun is shining and still has enough for powering a home at night.

A stun gun at a million + volts won't kill you. 1 to 4.5 amps is enough to possibly drop you deaders. 10 amps will kill you.

Which only proves that YOU don't know shit about electricity.

 

[AlexBailey]

A stun gun at a million + volts won't kill you. 1 to 4.5 amps is enough to possibly drop you deaders. 10 amps will kill you.

Which only proves that YOU don't know shit about electricity.

That battery bank I’m touching with my bare hand on the positive and negative terminals is ~56 volts with thousands of potential amps.


How is a 56 volt battery backpack a shock hazard?

Go fuck yourself, your honor.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

A stun gun at a million + volts won't kill you. 1 to 4.5 amps is enough to possibly drop you deaders. 10 amps will kill you.

Amps/ Volts /Resistance, that's what determines what combination kills people. Sorry you're a fucking dummy, but my Electrical Engineering degree agrees with my comments. Again the human bodies average resistance is 10,000 ohms (dry skin) Using Ohm's law to deliver 10 amps through a human body you need 100,000 Volts.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/te...hpt-2/voltage-current-resistance-relate/Which only proves that YOU don't know shit about electricity.
Neither do you, stick to Lawyering, or whatever the fuck you call it.

 

[AlexBailey]

Amps/ Volts /Resistance, that's what determines what combination kills people. Sorry you're a fucking dummy, but my Electrical Engineering degree agrees with my comments. Again the human bodies average resistance is 10,000 ohms (dry skin) Using Ohm's law to deliver 10 amps through a human body you need 100,000 Volts.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/te...hpt-2/voltage-current-resistance-relate/Which only proves that YOU don't know shit about electricity.

Neither do you, stick to Lawyering, or whatever the fuck you call it.

The idea of Harpy being a criminal judge is terrifying. How many innocent defendants are victims of his stupidity? How many malicious criminals have gone free?

Hopefully he was only a judge in a figurative sense.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The idea of Harpy being a criminal judge is terrifying. How many innocent defendants are victims of his stupidity? How many malicious criminals have gone free?

I don't wish to consider that...

Hopefully he was only a judge in a figurative sense.

Judge, no, he's not even a Lawyer......a shitty Paralegal at best...

 

[AlexBailey]

Now factor for lights, wipers, heater, turn signals, stereo,

Then recharge it at -12.........

Don't forget to wait your turn!

Yeah, no. Quit clutching your two tiny pearls.

Most passenger EVs get 3 miles/kWh in addition to accessories.

Charging at home over night works best. Some models and equipment even provide home backup power incase of utility power outages.

Batteries are now designed with core heaters that keep the battery ready or quickly warm it to receive a high current charge even in cold conditions.

Ever been somewhere cold enough to use a block heater for an ICE vehicle?

Why are you so bought in to petroleum stupidity? Do you like supporting the most profitable, subsidized, and polluting industry in the world?

Good little corporate cuck.

 

[ramoredrake]

Now factor for lights, wipers, heater, turn signals, stereo,

Then recharge it at -12.........

Don't forget to wait your turn!

Those things really don't add up to much compared to propulsion, and you can precondition the cabin prior to departure if you are worried about heating.

Look, it's not for everyone, but I've not bought gas in 8 years, I recharge my car from that huge fusion reactor 90 million miles in the sky, and the only things I've put in my car since buying it in 2016 is four tires and a gallon of wiper fluid.

 

[HisArpy]

That battery bank I’m touching with my bare hand on the positive and negative terminals is ~56 volts with thousands of potential amps.


How is a 56 volt battery backpack a shock hazard?

Go fuck yourself, your honor.

How can birds sit on high wires and not die?

Same deal with your battery setup; no current flow.


It's like you think the world is stupid and you can pull a fast one on it without anyone catching you.

 

[colddiesel]

The last couple of pages have been almost completely off topic but it has brought me to the disturbing realization that 'Arpy might just know more about electricity than he does about the Law.

 

[AlexBailey]

How can birds sit on high wires and not die?

Same deal with your battery setup; no current flow.


It's like you think the world is stupid and you can pull a fast one on it without anyone catching you.

Hey Judge,

Explain, how can a person get shocked by using a 54 volt battery pack?


That was your claim. It was bullshit. You are bullshit.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

I think it’s wonderful that the OPEC countries and constant Middle East turmoil hold sway over our gasoline prices, and therefore economy, to a large degree. Why on earth would anyone want to seek an alternative to that?

Actually Trump did. He gave us energy independence and Uncle Joe immediately gave the power back to people who do not like us in order to placate his base and force an energy transformation.

He is Scientifically and Economically illiterate, but, thank all the gods and buddhas, he's not Trump.

Trump is evil. Trump hates the environment. He wants to poison us and kill our children
I think he eats babies too...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Actually Trump did. He gave us energy independence and Uncle Joe immediately gave the power back to people who do not like us in order to placate his base and force an energy transformation.

He is Scientifically and Economically illiterate, but, thank all the gods and buddhas, he's not Trump.

Trump is evil. Trump hates the environment. He wants to poison us and kill our children
I think he eats babies too...

Bullshit as usual.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-poised-become-net-exporter-crude-oil-2023-2022-12-19/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/politics/energy-independence-fact-check/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/13/us-oil-production-exceeds-imports/3518245/

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Everyone has an opinion. Thanks for yours. Now, please go hate on someone who wants to hate you back.


Everything that we have been told about Canada and the temperament of its citizens were clearly all lies...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Everyone has an opinion. Thanks for yours. Now, please go hate on someone who wants to hate you back.


Everything that we have been told about Canada and the temperament of its citizens were clearly all lies...

No, you have an opinion. Usually wrong, I use facts, as highlighted in my reply back to your bullshit. There is no hate involved. Facts don't involve emotions.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

You have zero understanding of chaotic systems and how markets actually work.

"Because of logistical, regulatory, and quality considerations, exporting some petroleum is the most economical way to meet the market's needs. For example, refiners in the U.S. Gulf Coast region frequently find that it makes economic sense to export some of their gasoline to Mexico rather than shipping it to the U.S. East Coast because lower-cost gasoline imports from Europe may be available to the East Coast.

"Petroleum liquids include hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs). HGL exports, mainly propane, have increased substantially since 2008, and in 2022, were about 25% of total U.S. total petroleum gross exports."


https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You have zero understanding of chaotic systems and how markets actually work.

"Because of logistical, regulatory, and quality considerations, exporting some petroleum is the most economical way to meet the market's needs. For example, refiners in the U.S. Gulf Coast region frequently find that it makes economic sense to export some of their gasoline to Mexico rather than shipping it to the U.S. East Coast because lower-cost gasoline imports from Europe may be available to the East Coast.

"Petroleum liquids include hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs). HGL exports, mainly propane, have increased substantially since 2008, and in 2022, were about 25% of total U.S. total petroleum gross exports."


https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php

lol you just reinforced the facts I presented........Good Job!!

 

[JoePepsiCo]

No, actually we're making different points but you are incapable of seeing that.

You just want to hate on people. Something is lacking in your life.

I do feel sorry for you...

 

[MajorRewrite]

Actually Trump did. He gave us energy independence and Uncle Joe immediately gave the power back to people who do not like us in order to placate his base and force an energy transformation.

Fact check: US oil production is rising, not falling.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No, actually we're making different points but you are incapable of seeing that.

You just want to hate on people. Something is lacking in your life.

I do feel sorry for you...

Yes, I get you don't understand the subject matter.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

You have zero understanding of chaotic systems and how markets actually work.

I doubt your comprehension of chaos theory and complex adaptive systems.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Speaking of electric power …

California Grid Renewable Energy

The state of California was powered entirely by renewable energy for over 9 hours last Saturday and 8 hours on Sunday, reports Adele Peters in Fast Company, making Sunday “the ninth straight day that solar, wind, hydropower, geothermal, and battery storage fully powered the electric grid for at least some portion of the time.” Of the last 45 days, renewable energy powered the grid entirely for at least a portion of the day on 37 days.