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Dubinsky said:
Eleven.

Nope.

I loved the book. It's hard for me to see how people who "get" the world Herbert created can approve of what Lynch did to it.

To be fair, his filmmaking wasn't the issue; the writing was.
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It would be impossible to scratch what Herbert was doing in three hours. I haven't seen Part II yet, but I don't see it pulling it off either. (It is hard for me to rate the new film for someone, because I have read the novel enough, I am not sure what details I was filling in already.) it would take years to get it accurately done.

To me, Lynch's version was fascinating without being good.
 
UnquietDreams said:
It would be impossible to scratch what Herbert was doing in three hours. I haven't seen Part II yet, but I don't see it pulling it off either. (It is hard for me to rate the new film for someone, because I have read the novel enough, I am not sure what details I was filling in already.) it would take years to get it accurately done.

To me, Lynch's version was fascinating without being good.
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I enjoyed Part 2. I think they did a lot really well, and actually added some things pretty much for the book fans. I have some nitpicks, some choices that were clearly made for convenience, but nothing that ruined it for me.

One thing that I heard someone say regarding book vs film that stuck with me is that so much of the books focus on what a character is thinking and things that happen more in the minds eye and there's just not an accurate way to translate that to film.
 
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UnquietDreams said:
It would be impossible to scratch what Herbert was doing in three hours. I haven't seen Part II yet, but I don't see it pulling it off either. (It is hard for me to rate the new film for someone, because I have read the novel enough, I am not sure what details I was filling in already.) it would take years to get it accurately done.

To me, Lynch's version was fascinating without being good.
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Good idea! I will watch it again, tonight!

Maybe I should call the Police when Sting comes on…. and yell out at the tv as Brad Dourif’s scenes are so brilliantly played… I suppose making some Earl Gray tea when Patrick comes on is too much (just kidding, I don’t drink tea)…

Lets see.. what other stupid pointless references can I make.. on yeah - and the Fremen guy, I hope they don’t have full moons on that planet, ‘cause we all know he is a werewolf….

…do I have enough to be nominated for a totally pointless troll of stupid trivia award yet?
 
UnquietDreams said:
It would be impossible to scratch what Herbert was doing in three hours. I haven't seen Part II yet, but I don't see it pulling it off either. (It is hard for me to rate the new film for someone, because I have read the novel enough, I am not sure what details I was filling in already.) it would take years to get it accurately done.

To me, Lynch's version was fascinating without being good.
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I mean... topless Sting was pretty damn fascinating.
 
Catching up…
Not quoting or tagging anyone specific here, because I totally understand if some would prefer to opt out of the following trauma-dump, but re: the horror convo, specifically what we can’t watch or are triggered by:

I have met someone who would later commit murder. I have met the two people he murdered. I have been in the house where he murdered them.

I didn’t know them very well, but they were my uncle-in-law’s family and I knew them since I was a small child and had been back to their house at least a couple more times as an adult to visit his incredibly sweet late sister while she was battling cancer. One of their other brothers has a daughter my age, who I used to play with at family parties as a kid. They weren’t my blood relatives, but they were close enough to be considered extended family my entire life.

Many years ago, my uncle-in-law’s brother suffered a head injury from a work accident. I don’t know all the details of his diagnosis, but it caused long-term psychological issues. Rather than institutionalize him, his mother and brother cared for him and kept a close watch on him for years. So close they didn’t even let him serve drinks. I don’t know and don’t want to know all the details of exactly how it happened, and will withhold some of the details that might be too identifying or searchable. What I do know is that one night he killed his mother and brother by bashing their heads in with a hammer and hid their bodies in the detached garage. About a week or two later, a friendly neighbor had noticed not seeing their mother around for a while, and went over to check on her, noticed a smell coming from the garage and called the police.

In one night, my uncle-in-law and 3 cousins effectively lost 3 family members. Regardless of the outcome, he wasn’t walking out of that murder trial a free man. It was either jail or an institution. As far as my uncle was concerned, that man wasn’t his brother anymore.

I can’t say exactly why, but this seriously fucked me up and traumatized me when news of it reached me. As I said, we weren’t close, and I had only met them a handful of times throughout my life. Still, it haunted me, and I literally had nightmares about it for months. Very detailed nightmares because I had been in that house multiple times. I could picture them in each room, and my brain would show me images of how it might have happened.

So back to the topic of horror triggers: anything that shares similar circumstances as that, is also a major trigger for me.
 
SalaciousMonkey22 said:
Yeah, I do not understand the appeal.
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It can be a great way to travel between multiple cities efficiently while still enjoying yourself. I’ve really enjoyed Mediterranean cruises in particular and ended up visiting some cities I didn’t even have on my radar that were just stellar. The food was great as were the accommodations and I didn’t encounter anything that was gross or dirty. That said, I think it depends a lot on the cruise line, ship, room type, and stops/destination.
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
Catching up…
Not quoting or tagging anyone specific here, because I totally understand if some would prefer to opt out of the following trauma-dump, but re: the horror convo, specifically what we can’t watch or are triggered by:

I have met someone who would later commit murder. I have met the two people he murdered. I have been in the house where he murdered them.

I didn’t know them very well, but they were my uncle-in-law’s family and I knew them since I was a small child and had been back to their house at least a couple more times as an adult to visit his incredibly sweet late sister while she was battling cancer. One of their other brothers has a daughter my age, who I used to play with at family parties as a kid. They weren’t my blood relatives, but they were close enough to be considered extended family my entire life.

Many years ago, my uncle-in-law’s brother suffered a head injury from a work accident. I don’t know all the details of his diagnosis, but it caused long-term psychological issues. Rather than institutionalize him, his mother and brother cared for him and kept a close watch on him for years. So close they didn’t even let him serve drinks. I don’t know and don’t want to know all the details of exactly how it happened, and will withhold some of the details that might be too identifying or searchable. What I do know is that one night he killed his mother and brother by bashing their heads in with a hammer and hid their bodies in the detached garage. About a week or two later, a friendly neighbor had noticed not seeing their mother around for a while, and went over to check on her, noticed a smell coming from the garage and called the police.

In one night, my uncle-in-law and 3 cousins effectively lost 3 family members. Regardless of the outcome, he wasn’t walking out of that murder trial a free man. It was either jail or an institution. As far as my uncle was concerned, that man wasn’t his brother anymore.

I can’t say exactly why, but this seriously fucked me up and traumatized me when news of it reached me. As I said, we weren’t close, and I had only met them a handful of times throughout my life. Still, it haunted me, and I literally had nightmares about it for months. Very detailed nightmares because I had been in that house multiple times. I could picture them in each room, and my brain would show me images of how it might have happened.

So back to the topic of horror triggers: anything that shares similar circumstances as that, is also a major trigger for me.
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As someone who had a father suffer a TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury), coincidentally also at work, I can tell you the changes in that person are wild and unpredictable. Though I have my own traumas from this, I can't begin to comprehend the level you just described. If you ever, for whatever reason, need to vent about that, please know you can always reach out.
 
LadyLascivious1 said:
It can be a great way to travel between multiple cities efficiently while still enjoying yourself. I’ve really enjoyed Mediterranean cruises in particular and ended up visiting some cities I didn’t even have on my radar that were just stellar. The food was great as were the accommodations and I didn’t encounter anything that was gross or dirty. That said, I think it depends a lot on the cruise line, ship, room type, and stops/destination.
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May I ask if you live in Europe?
 
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