What’s your most controversial opinion?

[Nicefella]

Yes, abusive alcoholics are to die for.

Often literally.

A bit of a tangent by honestly my jaw dropped when I saw the outcome of the JD defamation case.

I have represented plenty PLENTY of people facing DV charges in court and they have been found guilty of far less when it comes to domestic violence. In fact in most cases there are no videos or audio or even third party eyewitnesses - it’s a woman’s word against the man. And the man almost entirely always loses.

So when I saw JD smugly smiling away as the court showed the entire video of him trashing the kitchen cabinets while Amber Whatsrface sat there, I was certain that the defamation claim against her would be dropped.

But hey he has such dreamy eyes.

 

[Nicefella]

What if it’s a serious hoodie?

If it has the medical school’s shield on it!? Good point!

 

[InThe312]

What colour do you think is khaki? @InThe312

At least I know how to pronounce it.

 

[Nicefella]

Meh … agree to disagree. I don’t care if he’s wearing a hoodie. He obviously got the degree and the job if he’s performing surgery.

lol. Then you can have him operate on you!! I’ll wait for the crustiest looking stiff motherfucker with a tie.

 

[AmberLGreen]

Fighting against decades and centuries of social conditioning into what is acceptable.

A powdered wig is fine and learned. Make the wig purple and all of sudden you've got no respect...

Here is my purple wig before I powdered it with Femfresh

 

[InThe312]

Because we have clients that require it. It’s a law firm. I think people picking law firms for defending million dollar cases care to see that their lawyers wear attire that suggests that they are serious.

I guess it depends on who your clients are, but this attitude is what makes me think investment bankers (my industry) are just the most pretentious bunch of pricks I've ever worked with. They wear their $5000 suits because that's what the culture of banking is. Then we have a meeting with a group of private equity douches and they show up in jeans and t-shirts. These guys are doing multi-million/billion dollar transactions and they don't GAF what anyone is wearing. They want to know credentials, buyer knowledge, relationships, industry expertise, etc. None of those tie to appearance. Certainly if you show up to work as a complete slob with torn or dirty clothing, BO, etc. that should be a point to talk about, but the silliness that a suit somehow conveys a certain level of seriousness is dumb IMO.

 

[Nicefella]

I guess it depends on who your clients are, but this attitude is what makes me think investment bankers (my industry) are just the most pretentious bunch of pricks I've ever worked with. They wear their $5000 suits because that's what the culture of banking is. Then we have a meeting with a group of private equity douches and they show up in jeans and t-shirts. These guys are doing multi-million/billion dollar transactions and they don't GAF what anyone is wearing. They want to know credentials, buyer knowledge, relationships, industry expertise, etc. None of those tie to appearance. Certainly if you show up to work as a complete slob with torn or dirty clothing, BO, etc. that should be a point to talk about, but the silliness that a suit somehow conveys a certain level of seriousness is dumb IMO.

It is dumb. But like you just said these investment bankers still wear them and the private equity douchebags actually want their stuffed suits to look like stuffed suits so they can walk around like Bobby Axelrod. I work within the realities of the workplace and have to enforce those rules. It is what it is.

 

[crazychemgirl]

I guess it depends on who your clients are, but this attitude is what makes me think investment bankers (my industry) are just the most pretentious bunch of pricks I've ever worked with. They wear their $5000 suits because that's what the culture of banking is. Then we have a meeting with a group of private equity douches and they show up in jeans and t-shirts. These guys are doing multi-million/billion dollar transactions and they don't GAF what anyone is wearing. They want to know credentials, buyer knowledge, relationships, industry expertise, etc. None of those tie to appearance. Certainly if you show up to work as a complete slob with torn or dirty clothing, BO, etc. that should be a point to talk about, but the silliness that a suit somehow conveys a certain level of seriousness is dumb IMO.

love this!

 

[Bry1313]

This is something I struggle with … but.. should there be a limit to topics in comedy in the name of freedom of expression?

This comes up because recently a comedy trio (must note it’s a group of young white men).. released a tshirt for their comedy tour.. making light of a serial killer who killed an unnamed amount of indigenous women … and they had massive backlash from the indigenous community saying it is disrespectful.

I’m usually of the mind that comedy is inherently supposed to push boundaries … sometimes the most fucked up shit is the most funny.. but is there a limit? Should there be?

There doesn’t need to be a hard limit but if you do something tasteless and not funny. Then the backlash is warranted. Something like that is tasteless and not funny, they deserve the response they get.

 

[crazychemgirl]

It is dumb. But like you just said these investment bankers still wear them and the private equity douchebags actually want their stuffed suits to look like stuffed suits so they can walk around like Bobby Axelrod. I work within the realities of the workplace and have to enforce those rules. It is what it is.

Or you can challenge the social norm!! … it’s only by challenging the “it’s always been this way” that things can begin to change.

 

[Nicefella]

Or you can challenge the social norm!! … it’s only by challenging the “it’s always been this way” that things can begin to change.

Yeah. Not gunna care enough to do that. I challenge shit in court. I’m tired of challenges lol

 

[ydahecnot]

Here is my purple wig before I powdered it with Femfresh

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If I run into powder (or purple, for that matter) there….

 

[Bry1313]

It is dumb. But like you just said these investment bankers still wear them and the private equity douchebags actually want their stuffed suits to look like stuffed suits so they can walk around like Bobby Axelrod. I work within the realities of the workplace and have to enforce those rules. It is what it is.

When I’ve worked with investment bankers in their suits, it just reminded me, that the fees we were paying them just to validate the analysis that we did for them, was beyond excessive for any value they were bringing to us. I hated them.

 

[Wand3rlust]

At least I know how to pronounce it.

Debatable.

 

[Nicefella]

When I’ve worked with investment bankers in their suits, it just reminded me that the fees we were paying them just to validate the analysis that we did for them was beyond excessive for any value they were bringing to us. I hated them.

It’s the circle of life. They fuck you with their obscene fees. Then we fuck them with their obscene fees and then we fuck them even harder with our fees some
More when the US Attorneys office comes calling.

 

[AmberLGreen]

Or you can challenge the social norm!! … it’s only by challenging the “it’s always been this way” that things can begin to change.

How far should they change? Should I be allowed to go to the office in a string bikini, with my flaps hanging out and a big full bush on show?

Would you employ somebody with a swastika tattooed on their cheek?

 

[StillRain]

A bit of a tangent by honestly my jaw dropped when I saw the outcome of the JD defamation case.

I have represented plenty PLENTY of people facing DV charges in court and they have been found guilty of far less when it comes to domestic violence. In fact in most cases there are no videos or audio or even third party eyewitnesses - it’s a woman’s word against the man. And the man almost entirely always loses.

So when I saw JD smugly smiling away as the court showed the entire video of him trashing the kitchen cabinets while Amber Whatsrface sat there, I was certain that the defamation claim against her would be dropped.

But hey he has such dreamy eyes.

Well, they had two hearings. One in the UK in which he was found to have abused her in 12 of 14 cases. In the US the trial was basically trial by social media. Disgusting that essentially a DV case was even televised.

Theres a fascinating podcast called Who Trolled Amber? Interesting ideas floated in there…

 

[StillRain]

It’s the circle of life. They fuck you with their obscene fees. Then we fuck them with their obscene fees and then we fuck them even harder with our fees some
More when the US Attorneys office comes calling.

That’s more fucking than most GBers see in their lifetime.

 

[Nicefella]

Well, they had two hearings. One in the UK in which he was found to have abused her in 12 of 14 cases. In the US the trial was basically trial by social media. Disgusting that essentially a DV case was even televised.

Theres a fascinating podcast called Who Trolled Amber? Interesting ideas floated in there…

I’ve had only one experience with hearings in the UK. I came away so impressed. I wouldn’t be surprised that the court found him guilty of domestic abuse.

The only thing is their writing style. Very informal compared to briefs written here. I was joking with our silk there that we write more properly than they do in court filings.

 

[crazychemgirl]

How far should they change? Should I be allowed to go to the office in a string bikini, with my flaps hanging out and a big full bush on show?

Would you employ somebody with a swastika tattooed on their cheek?

This is a ridiculous and extremist argument and you know it.

 

[crazychemgirl]

There doesn’t need to be a hard limit but if you do something tasteless and not funny. Then the backlash is warranted. Something like that is tasteless and not funny, they deserve the response they get.

Yeah I get that .. but I wonder.. because we make jokes about cannibalism .. I’m sure the victims families of Dahmer don’t find them funny.
The joke they made is actually about cannibalism because the serial killer killed indigenous prostitutes and fed them to his pigs which probably all of us here ate some bacon from their farm in our lives.

 

[Bry1313]

How far should they change? Should I be allowed to go to the office in a string bikini, with my flaps hanging out and a big full bush on show?

Would you employ somebody with a swastika tattooed on their cheek?

If someone wants to tell me they suck with a tattoo on their face, they are just doing me a favor. I don’t need to wait for their filth to come from their mouth. Also the office is kept too cool for you to be comfy with flaps flying.

 

[Bry1313]

Yeah I get that .. but I wonder.. because we make jokes about cannibalism .. I’m sure the victims families of Dahmer don’t find them funny.
The joke they made is actually about cannibalism because the serial killer killed indigenous prostitutes and fed them to his pigs which probably all of us here ate some bacon from their farm in our lives.

You and I are making amorphous jokes with no specific victims as part of our humor. These dudes are pointing the light at a specific and horrific crime. If you are gonna do a joke about a tragedy, it better be really damn good.

Like the Holocaust joke about why Germans can’t have a good bagel. It’s a really good and nuanced joke, and actually funny. There doesn’t need to be a limit on what topics you makes jokes about, but if you are wading into the sensitive realm, it better be a good joke.

 

[AmberLGreen]

This is a ridiculous and extremist argument and you know it.

To you it might be but to others it isn’t. Although you are saying that everybody should be allowed to wear whatever they feel comfortable in and have tattoos and piercings on display if that defines who they are, in your own mind, you still have lines that you are drawing. You have the sense to have those lines but other people’s lines are different.

Where does the line get drawn?

 

[crazychemgirl]

To you it might be but to others it isn’t. Although you are saying that everybody should be allowed to wear whatever they feel comfortable in and have tattoos and piercings on display if that defines who they are, in your own mind, you still have lines that you are drawing. You have the sense to have those lines but other people’s lines are different.

Where does the line get drawn?

Lines like freedom to express hateful insignia is not the same as freedom of expression.