The future is dense, walkable cities.

[dmallord]

Mackinac Island — car-free place in Michigan.

The uniqueness of it has made it a highly rated tourist destination. I’d like to go someday.





Maybe the only car-free place of any note in the US? Disney World doesn’t really count.

I made a round-the-continent trip when I got out of the military. Happenstance put me there during springtime.

The last I knew, you had a choice of the old ferry or the hydrofoil ride over and back. The hydrofoil is the best part, whipping across the open waters up on skis. Damn cold winds.

Once there, it's just a rock with a couple of old cannons and plaques with the history of why the British fought over it. I don't recall it being a highly-rated tourist destination. Certainly better for kids to go to Disney.

Most people there were walking the place; it isn't big enough to bother riding around on a bike.

As I recall, it has a truck - maintenance stuff. I didn't see it - just a plaque somewhere that said it had one vehicle.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I made a round-the-continent trip when I got out of the military. Happenstance put me there during springtime.

The last I knew, you had a choice of the old ferry or the hydrofoil ride over and back. The hydrofoil is the best part, whipping across the open waters up on skis. Damn cold winds.

Once there, it's just a rock with a couple of old cannons and plaques with the history of why the British fought over it. I don't recall it being a highly-rated tourist destination. Certainly better for kids to go to Disney.

Most people there were walking the place; it isn't big enough to bother riding around on a bike.

As I recall, it has a truck - maintenance stuff. I didn't see it - just a plaque somewhere that said it had one vehicle.

Your description doesn’t match the photos and descriptions on the website.

Awards: https://www.mackinacisland.org/awards/

 

[TrailerHitch]

Your description doesn’t match the photos and descriptions on the website.

Awards: https://www.mackinacisland.org/awards/

There are motor vehicles on Macinac Island. Fire, Police, EMS, and DPW all use ICE vehicles there.

 

[MajorRewrite]

38 New Urbanism projects in the Charlotte area

So many compact, walkable developments in one metro area.

 

[TrailerHitch]

38 New Urbanism projects in the Charlotte area

So many compact, walkable developments in one metro area.

Oh look, another location with no real winter. How convenient.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Oh look, another location with no real winter. How convenient.

In this thread, I’ve posted examples from Finland, Minneapolis and Westminster (Colorado).

Compact walkable developments are just as successful in cold places as in warm places.

 

[sandybrooke]

I'm not going near a city on foot or by bus. It's a war zone
https://6abc.com/tag/septa/

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Oh look, another location with no real winter. How convenient.

Montreal has a real winter, is walkable and has one of the best metro systems in North America.

What’s your point?

 

[MajorRewrite]

Stunning new city built in … Guatemala.

Traditional architecture graces this compact, walkable place.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Montreal has a real winter, is walkable and has one of the best metro systems in North America.

What’s your point?

My point is it will never be a majority situation. It is an oddity.

 

[MajorRewrite]

My point is it will never be a majority situation. It is an oddity.

Possibly. But the tightly zoned suburbs that are prevalent today didn’t become the norm until after WW2. At that point demographics, technology and zoning combined to rapidly spread suburban car-centric development everywhere.

Some new combination of factors certainly has the potential to change the suburban status quo.

It’s odd that those most adamantly devoted to today’s tightly zoned and regulated suburbs are right wing people who profess to be against government regulation.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Possibly. But the tightly zoned suburbs that are prevalent today didn’t become the norm until after WW2. At that point demographics, technology and zoning combined to rapidly spread suburban car-centric development everywhere.

Some new combination of factors certainly has the potential to change the suburban status quo.

It’s odd that those most adamantly devoted to today’s tightly zoned and regulated suburbs are right wing people who profess to be against government regulation.

Honestly I don't give a fuck about the suburbs or the cities. Do whatever the hell you want there. Just stay out of our rural paradise and leave us and our way of life alone. We choose to be away from that noise and nonsense and nothing you do will convince us that city life is a better life.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Honestly I don't give a fuck about the suburbs or the cities. Do whatever the hell you want there. Just stay out of our rural paradise and leave us and our way of life alone. We choose to be away from that noise and nonsense and nothing you do will convince us that city life is a better life.

Ok, but then how would you live your “rural” life if you’re left alone?

 

[TrailerHitch]

Ok, but then how would you live your “rural” life if you’re left alone?

Pretty easily actually.

How would you live your city life without rural farmers feeding you?

 

[dmallord]

Your description doesn’t match the photos and descriptions on the website.

Awards: https://www.mackinacisland.org/awards/

What can I tell you - maybe its changed from early 70's? Still, it isn't very big and still only so much rock to see. It had a hotel and a gift shop. I clicked on the link - and laughed a bit - you know it's a tourist blurb, right?

I did enjoy the ride up the 'mitten' from one side to the other - beautiful coastlines - nice folks. Things were just beginning to bloom when I passed through.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Pretty easily actually.

How would you live your city life without rural farmers feeding you?

No it isn’t. You couldn’t get home without the public road.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

My point is it will never be a majority situation. It is an oddity.

It's not an oddity, it's now being built into cities by the Planners. The advent of the wide tire bikes makes it safe, and people seem to enjoy riding in -20 weather. *shakes my head at them*.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Honestly I don't give a fuck about the suburbs or the cities. Do whatever the hell you want there. Just stay out of our rural paradise and leave us and our way of life alone. We choose to be away from that noise and nonsense and nothing you do will convince us that city life is a better life.

That’s fine. Nobody is proposing to change rural areas.

In fact, typical suburban sprawl consumes large amounts of farmland every year, but compact development helps preserve farmland.

 

[TrailerHitch]

No it isn’t. You couldn’t get home without the public road.

This really is you clutching at straws to be relevant.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Measure HLA is predicted to pass with a 2/3 majority.

This is a significant victory for pedestrians!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

This really is you clutching at straws to be relevant.

What straws? How much did the public road to take you to town cost taxpayers?
You brought up people leaving you alone to lead a rural life but you’re demanding other peoples’ money to do it.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

You must work for the WEF.

 

[MajorRewrite]

You must work for the WEF.

Conspiracy lunatics are amusing.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Ignorant slobs aren't. Go do a rewrite major. you're a sheep! actually i like sheep. the amount of people with their eyes completely closed on this site is amazing!! you're one of the top. you'll go down in history... well, actually you won't. get a clue, and you're probably due for a booster. you still getting a donut with your shots? or was that just a one time deal. when something is free, you're the product.

 

[TrailerHitch]

What straws? How much did the public road to take you to town cost taxpayers?
You brought up people leaving you alone to lead a rural life but you’re demanding other peoples’ money to do it.

You're attempt to prove my tax dollars to pave and maintain those roads are meaningless and beneath even a major fuck head drone like you.