The future is dense, walkable cities.

Actually where I live is considered middle Tennessee and I'm 100 miles east of Nashville. But since you are a visitor I wouldn't expect you to know Tennessee's geography.
I love Tennessee. Rivers, mountains, Vols football, several fun large and midsized cities. Bristol TN is the most walkable city in the state and possibly the entire country. You can walk all the way to Virginia just by crossing the street.
 
Well not to dash some cold water, but not everyone has had such a wonderful experience. I'm eighty-six now. Lived in a city for a while then moved.

  • robbed at gunpoint twice - mall parking lots
  • sat at a traffic light and watched through my review window as a teenager got shot dead in the street.
  • Stole my car at work - once, the second time just messed up the steering trying to steal it
  • Ran off the road by a truck that was fleeing police
  • neighbor murdered by thieves - used his gun to kill him
  • attempted forced entry to my home while I was there
  • took cover under a bridge while a tornado roared over me [just a bad experience and no one's fault.]
So there is that different experience.
Don’t buy lottery tickets. Luck doesn’t follow you around. 😀
 
"...dense walkable cities"

Ah, so that when a virus spreads they can just quarantine the city and make everyone stay inside like the Chinese did. That worked out so well they welded the peoples doors shut. No thanks I'll take the mountains.
 
This is why BSG's dream of public transit doesn't work in cities dominated by the lawless constituencies of the Democrat party:



  • AMERICAN NEWS
  • Mar 3, 2024

NYC transit system sees massive increase in murder, violence since 2020​

The three murders so far this year mean that the city is already on track to surpass last year's total in subway killings.


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Katie DaviscourtSeattle WA
Mar 3, 2024


Data shows that more people have been killed on New York City's subway transit system since the start of 2020 than in the 15 years prior.

The New York Police Department has raised alarming concerns about the upward trend after the start of 2024 kicked off with historic violent crime rates on the Big Apple's subway systems. This despite an increase in officer staffing and surveillance measures on the city's transit system, which had been implemented in an attempt to deter criminal activity.

Since the start of 2020, records show that NYPD recorded 32 murders in subway trains and stations. To compare, the department recorded a total of 31 murders between 2005 and 2019.

This year is already off to a bad start, with three recorded subway murders since February. In 2023, there were a total of five subway murders recorded. The three murders so far this year mean that the city is already on track to surpass last year's total in subway killings.

More here: https://thepostmillennial.com/nyc-t...murder-violence-since-2020?utm_campaign=64487
 
"...dense walkable cities"

Ah, so that when a virus spreads they can just quarantine the city and make everyone stay inside like the Chinese did. That worked out so well they welded the peoples doors shut. No thanks I'll take the mountains.
Masks work even in crowded mass transit.
 
Mackinac Island — car-free place in Michigan.

The uniqueness of it has made it a highly rated tourist destination. I’d like to go someday.

Since no cars are allowed on Mackinac Island, one of the most scenic ways to take in the natural beauty is by bicycle. You’re always welcome to take your own bikes to Mackinac Island on the ferry. But there also are several places to rent bikes – from single-speed cruisers to tandem bikes to tag-along trailers for little kids.

One of the iconic Mackinac Island experiences is to pedal all the way around the outer rim of the Island with the lake breeze in your face. It’s a leisurely 8.2-mile ride that takes 60 to 90 minutes.

Maybe the only car-free place of any note in the US? Disney World doesn’t really count.
 
Around 25 years ago I was riding a bus after a tooth extraction. I had a huge wad of gauze in my mouth that I couldn't hold anymore. I took it out then realized I did not have a trash bag. I was holding a wad of bloody gross gauze with nowhere to put it until I thought of putting it in a pocket of my backpack. That would have been awkward on a shared bench or more crowded conditions.
 
Mackinac Island — car-free place in Michigan.

The uniqueness of it has made it a highly rated tourist destination. I’d like to go someday.





Maybe the only car-free place of any note in the US? Disney World doesn’t really count.
I made a round-the-continent trip when I got out of the military. Happenstance put me there during springtime.

The last I knew, you had a choice of the old ferry or the hydrofoil ride over and back. The hydrofoil is the best part, whipping across the open waters up on skis. Damn cold winds.

Once there, it's just a rock with a couple of old cannons and plaques with the history of why the British fought over it. I don't recall it being a highly-rated tourist destination. Certainly better for kids to go to Disney.

Most people there were walking the place; it isn't big enough to bother riding around on a bike.

As I recall, it has a truck - maintenance stuff. I didn't see it - just a plaque somewhere that said it had one vehicle.
 
I made a round-the-continent trip when I got out of the military. Happenstance put me there during springtime.

The last I knew, you had a choice of the old ferry or the hydrofoil ride over and back. The hydrofoil is the best part, whipping across the open waters up on skis. Damn cold winds.

Once there, it's just a rock with a couple of old cannons and plaques with the history of why the British fought over it. I don't recall it being a highly-rated tourist destination. Certainly better for kids to go to Disney.

Most people there were walking the place; it isn't big enough to bother riding around on a bike.

As I recall, it has a truck - maintenance stuff. I didn't see it - just a plaque somewhere that said it had one vehicle.

Your description doesn’t match the photos and descriptions on the website.

Awards: https://www.mackinacisland.org/awards/
 
Mac Island might be noisier than an ordinary town with cars, since they ride other vehicles that may not have mufflers: ATVs, snowmobiles, etc.
 
Stunning new city built in … Guatemala.

Traditional architecture graces this compact, walkable place.

 
My point is it will never be a majority situation. It is an oddity.

Possibly. But the tightly zoned suburbs that are prevalent today didn’t become the norm until after WW2. At that point demographics, technology and zoning combined to rapidly spread suburban car-centric development everywhere.

Some new combination of factors certainly has the potential to change the suburban status quo.

It’s odd that those most adamantly devoted to today’s tightly zoned and regulated suburbs are right wing people who profess to be against government regulation.
 
Possibly. But the tightly zoned suburbs that are prevalent today didn’t become the norm until after WW2. At that point demographics, technology and zoning combined to rapidly spread suburban car-centric development everywhere.

Some new combination of factors certainly has the potential to change the suburban status quo.

It’s odd that those most adamantly devoted to today’s tightly zoned and regulated suburbs are right wing people who profess to be against government regulation.
Honestly I don't give a fuck about the suburbs or the cities. Do whatever the hell you want there. Just stay out of our rural paradise and leave us and our way of life alone. We choose to be away from that noise and nonsense and nothing you do will convince us that city life is a better life.
 
Honestly I don't give a fuck about the suburbs or the cities. Do whatever the hell you want there. Just stay out of our rural paradise and leave us and our way of life alone. We choose to be away from that noise and nonsense and nothing you do will convince us that city life is a better life.
Ok, but then how would you live your “rural” life if you’re left alone?
 
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