Will you vote for Trump?

[RoryN]

Libtards heads will explode with DJTs new campaign add... say it aint so!!!! .https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrDrBs13oA&pp=ygUbQmlsbCBDbGludG9uIG9uIGltbWlncmF0aW9u

In this thread alone, you MAGAts have managed to mess up "ad", "to", and "you're".

 

[Bn2f]

I would add:

By denying Russia a victory in Ukraine, the west also denies Russia another proxy state for money laundering, evading sanctions, and from which they can launch cyber attacks , while presenting a fig leaf of plausible deniability that Russia wasn’t behind those cyber attacks



Of course, blunting the expansion of Russian influence and the spread of murderous authoritarianism SHOULD be MORE than enough enough to get everyone’s support.



I wonder why some people aren’t up for blocking the expansion of murderous authoritarianism???



We. Know. Why.

And I would add that Ukraine is not yet a part of NATO. But its removal of its past dictator, and the new governments desires to become part of NATO posed too much of a threat to Putin. To bring this conversation back full circle - I vote no because I do not want in place the useful idiot Manchurian candidate of Putin that is trump.

 

[Bn2f]

Did you know that Ukraine was not part of NATO?

My apologies. I did not see this because I am not currently on a computer. But I’m glad that I answered. Was my answer satisfactory?

 

[Lady2020]

No

 

[Lazaran]

And I would add that Ukraine is not yet a part of NATO. But its removal of its past dictator, and the new governments desires to become part of NATO posed too much of a threat to Putin. To bring this conversation back full circle - I vote no because I do not want in place the useful idiot Manchurian candidate of Putin that is trump.

The worst kept secret in the world, is that NATO has NEVER posed a threat to Russia - unless, by "threat", one means the deterrence of Russian expansion.

 

[Bn2f]

Did you know that Ukraine was not part of NATO?

I have not seen you comment here before. Welcome to the board! I am a fool here seeking truth. Lazaran is not a fool but a truth speaker. Your comments have yet to sway or impresses, but I’m willing to continue in hopes of clarification.

 

[Chernosoth]

More excuses. You're not being serious. Waste of time.

You must watch this one amazing video! It will change your life! Mmm, nah. I don't need to watch a video to have a lower opinion of a candidate who has already lost my vote. But RFK is eager to debate Trump. So I may watch the debates in the months when they happen.

 

[Bn2f]

The reality is that if Ukraine prevails - a thing much more likely with US aid than without - they will need international aid to rebuild.

I'm not understanding why you are so hostile to it.

The voting in this thread is not looking good. By the end I’m thinking trumpers will be needing 11,780 yeses to win.

 

[Nicefella]

My apologies. I did not see this because I am not currently on a computer. But I’m glad that I answered. Was my answer satisfactory?

Yes. It does. Ukraine is not part of NATO.

Thanks for the welcome. I am not here to sway or impress. I just happened to see some posts which I wanted to respond to.

I simply want people to respect each other’s opinions. You don't have to tear me down if I do not agree with your political ideologies. Not you - but the collective “you” - being told only an idiot would vote for Trump doesn’t serve your presumptive nominee any good - it just polarizes people that may be on the fence.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761939705950585326

The ones who want him in the high seat again align with this.

As an example of politics, it's insulting.

As an example of character, it's revolting.

As an example of some sort of entertainment to keep a buzz going for the masses? Inane.

As an example of the best of America that represents us? Insane.

 

[KeithD]

I just cannot believe that Trump and Biden are anywhere close to even in an individual-voter vote. I think there's a problem with the rural-state-skewed Electoral College, but the margin in individual voting was in Biden's favor by seven million votes last time. With everything that's happened since then, I must believe the margin will be even greater in 2024. I just think the polls aren't touching the right people.

 

[Lazaran]

First this:

I’m still not hearing why. Why do we need to keep Russia in check? Why do we care about Europe?

Then this:

I can Answer this for you by repeating the sentiments expressed by President Biden earlier this month. The United States is a part of NATO. The United States honors its treaties and supports its allies. Article 5 of the NATO treaty is the glue that binds. The one and only time it was invoked was, wait for it… when the United States was attacked on 911.

Then this:

Did you know that Ukraine was not part of NATO?

Then this:

My apologies. I did not see this because I am not currently on a computer. But I’m glad that I answered. Was my answer satisfactory?

Yes. It does. Ukraine is not part of NATO.

Let’s see if "Nicefella" (obviously and alt) can see where they fucked up.



"Nice fella" (obviously an alt) is a perfect example of an unserious individual unworthy of meaningful engagement on important issues.



"Nicefella" (obviously an alt)

 

[TastySuckToy]

Look good, Mr. Trump, looking good.

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[Nicefella]

First this:



Then this:



Then this:



Then this:





Let’s see if "Nicefella" (obviously and alt) can see where they fucked up.



"Nice fella" (obviously an alt) is a perfect example of an unserious individual unworthy of meaningful engagement on important issues.



"Nicefella" (obviously an alt)

You think I am an alt for @Bn2f

Can you tell me where I fucked up?

Btw I have been in lit since 2007. You and all the collective alts that live in your head can kiss my ass.

 

[dmallord]

No. Just a simple No.

 

[KatieDoes]

Nope. Never. Not under any circumstance.

 

[Lazaran]

You think I am an alt for @Bn2f

Can you tell me where I fucked up?

Btw I have been in lit since 2007. You and all the collective alts that live in your head can kiss my ass.

I knew "Nicefella" (obviously and alt) wouldn’t be able to identify their fuckup in that quote chain exchange between themself and the singular Bn2f.



Hint:

Look at the question asked, the answer given, and then the goalpost shift from “Europe” to “Ukraine” by "Nicefella" (obviously an alt).



"Nicefella" (obviously an alt)

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761720913534280077

 

[Nicefella]

I knew "Nicefella" (obviously and alt) wouldn’t be able to identify their fuckup in that quote chain exchange between themself and the singular Bn2f.



Hint:

Look at the question asked, the answer given, and then the goalpost shift from “Europe” to “Ukraine” by "Nicefella" (obviously an alt).



"Nicefella" (obviously an alt)

Yes. You are right.

I am not perceptive enough to see the hallucinations you are having.

Get some help man.

 

[jomar]

I’m not going to have the bandwidth to argue with you as nauseam nor do it hi k you want to hear from me.

But why can’t you succinctly explain why we are spending billions to fund Ukraine? Just explain it like you would to a 10 year old. One thing I learned a long time ago from a very good lawyer who later became a very good judge that I clerked for was - most things in life can be explained simply to a 10 year old. Those that dismiss you or say it’s too complicated either don’t know it themselves, haven’t given it any serious thought, or don’t have the ability to. I doubt you fall into the last category so all I ask is for some serious thought on this topic. Why are we so interested in backing Ukraine? What does that do for us in our now eighty plus year pissing March with Russia?

Lol, some nice passive aggressive insults there.

But to answer your question as though you’re a child: Russia is an enemy of the US. They interfered in our presidential election. Ukraine is a strategic partner of the US. People upthread have given good reasons such as money spent supporting Ukraine is pennies on the dollar weakening Putin’s Russia and preventing its expansion to the detriment of other allied nations.

Here’s an an article if you are interested: https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...-ukraine-is-critical-to-us-national-interest/

Do you really need a cite to tell you that inflation was near 10 percent after and during COVID? I found one for you. It says 9.1% in June 2022. It was a lot more in focused commodities areas but here - have at it.

Yes, are you surprised inflation increased as a result of all that Covid brought on? It wasn’t simply the Covid handouts as you claim without sourcing.

“In just the past two months, overall inflation, measured year over year, has slowed from nearly 5% in April to just 3% now. Much of that progress reflects the fading of spikes in food and energy prices that followed Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last spring. Inflation is now significantly below its peak of 9.1% in June 2022.”
https://apnews.com/article/inflatio...eral-reserve-53d93610b5ccaacd097853593f29bc26

Here is one that explains that groceries have inflated to 25% more in the last 4 years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/02/02/grocery-price-inflation-biden/

Yes, Covid and the Russian invasion of Ukraine had an impact.

I have nothing else to say about your sophomoric porn usage comment.

lol, because you’re a serious sealion on a porn site politics board!

 

[TastySuckToy]

Yes. You are right.

I am not perceptive enough to see the hallucinations you are having.

Get some help man.

But Nicefella, didn't you hear?

Lazaran is not a fool but a truth speaker.

 

[Nicefella]

You’re right @jomar and @adrina
You’ve convinced me.
I will now vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Thank you for showing me the folly of my ways.

 

[jomar]

You’re right @jomar and @adrina
You’ve convinced me.
I will now vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Thank you for showing me the folly of my ways.

Thank you for doing your part to save our democracy and country!

 

[LaValliere]

Does voting for him in spirit count?

What do you like about him?

 

[LaValliere]

Yes. I will vote for Trump if the choice in November comes down to Biden or Trump (which looks inevitable barring a senior citizen health problem or some black swan event). Not happy with the choices though.

absolutely not. And I am happy with one of the choices