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[Purple_Fronds]

I think we can safely assume that Israel politics have been going through a hardline and a more intransigent period for some time. This is born out through their recent elections, their posture on settlements and many other stances they’ve taken irrespective of criticism they’ve received both domestically and internationally. What of course helps the Israel hardliners is that a lot of the international criticism comes from Europe which still suffers with significant ant-semitism and has a very shaky moral ground already.

The problem with the Israel government’s current strategy is that there’s no end game, the numbers are just not in their favor and what ever people’s position around the world is, most people have a thought on the total number of deaths that would trigger a response of going to far. Maybe there is no consensus of what the acceptable ratio of Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths is, but we’re approaching 20 to 1. However, even at 50 thousand Palestinian deaths, which is a similar number to what the US lost in the Vietnam conflict was deemed ok by the rest of the world, this is still a drop in the bucket of the 2.2 million Palestinians that live in Gaza.

In terms of WW2 and the notion that somehow faster action was possible I think is incorrect, Germany was still a significant force to be reckoned with and although they might have been economically ruined, their industrial output was still formidable especially as all the fighting in ww1 had took place on other people‘s land. In short even if there was a desire for Britain and France to rush into war, it is very unlikely they would have been successful.

 

[policywank]

I think we can safely assume that Israel politics have been going through a hardline and a more intransigent period for some time. This is born out through their recent elections, their posture on settlements and many other stances they’ve taken irrespective of criticism they’ve received both domestically and internationally. What of course helps the Israel hardliners is that a lot of the international criticism comes from Europe which still suffers with significant ant-semitism and has a very shaky moral ground already.

The problem with the Israel government’s current strategy is that there’s no end game, the numbers are just not in their favor and what ever people’s position around the world is, most people have a thought on the total number of deaths that would trigger a response of going to far. Maybe there is no consensus of what the acceptable ratio of Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths is, but we’re approaching 20 to 1. However, even at 50 thousand Palestinian deaths, which is a similar number to what the US lost in the Vietnam conflict was deemed ok by the rest of the world, this is still a drop in the bucket of the 2.2 million Palestinians that live in Gaza.

In terms of WW2 and the notion that somehow faster action was possible I think is incorrect, Germany was still a significant force to be reckoned with and although they might have been economically ruined, their industrial output was still formidable especially as all the fighting in ww1 had took place on other people‘s land. In short even if there was a desire for Britain and France to rush into war, it is very unlikely they would have been successful.

The point about WW2 wasn't about faster military action. It is about how indulging in the fallacy that Hitler could be appeased was detrimental to the Allies.

It is clear that in the years leading up to WW2 Hitler was building up his military with the intention of going to war. Negotiations and concessions (such as the Sudetenland) were a ruse that bought him more time. Likewise he had no intention of honouring the non-aggression pact with the Soviets. It was also a ruse to keep them out of the war until he controlled continental Europe. Would the outcome have been much different if the Western Allies had attacked earlier? As you said, probably not by much. Would it have been different if the Soviets hadn't taken the bait? That is more likely, but they arguably had more reason to think he would leave them alone and they didn't care if he conquered Europe.

But the point isn't that the Allies should have started a war earlier. The point is that they weakened their position in the eventual war by indulging in the fallacy and arguably the hubris that they could resolve the matter with diplomacy. Hitler had already laid out very clearly his feelings about the injustices done to Germany and the premise that the Germans needed "living space to the east". There is an old saying something along the lines of "when someone tells you who they are you should listen." Even if they did play along in the negotiations or even cling to the hope that they would work, the Allies should have been aggressively planning for the eventuality of war on the basis that Hitler would not be appeased. Some of that was going on but not nearly at the level that he was planning for war otherwise we wouldn't have been scrambling to ramp up military production while under attack while he was sitting on a giant war machine built up and ready to go.

Likewise Hamas has told us who they are. They do not want peace (their actions of Oct. 7 were arguably intended to precipitate war). They do not want a two-state solution. They want the eradication of Israel including the genocide of the Jewish people therein. Does that mean that Israel's current strategy is the right one? I really don't know. But it does mean that we should not indulge in the fallacy that their actions are all driven by their own perceived oppression and that they can be convinced to change their thinking. They are part of a long line of organizations going back to 1948 that called for the same genocidal objectives. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that they will be appeased. Meanwhile they have infiltrated Palestinian society and there is no reason to believe that will end or that the Palestinian Authority has any ability whatsoever to rein them in.

Whatever next steps Israel takes or the west promotes should not be based upon the expectation that what Hamas has already told the world is not how they really feel or that we have the ability to convince them to alter their position. They will use a ceasefire to re-arm. If a two state solution is imposed they will use their state to promote terror and prepare for the next attempt to eradicate Israel. Does the humanitarian situation justify a ceasefire anyway? Maybe. Is a two state solution the best way forward anyway? Maybe. But we can't afford to live in a world where we indulge in the fallacy of what we think that will look like when the most powerful voice among the Palestinians is telling us otherwise.

 

[silky52]

People who know the truth about Hamas-ISIS war on Israel, the Jews and in fact the world.

 

[silky52]

I have noted during this thread that it is rare that any of you speak about the things that Israel has suffered since October 7th.

1. The hostages, of whom there are 136, that Hamas-ISIS kidnapped after many were tortured in their beds before they were taken hostage, and many were also murdered on October 7th, HI took their bodies back to Gaza with them!! Israel does not know if the hostages taken alive, are dead or alive now.
Among those hostages are two babies, girls and boys who are still teenagers (of course they won't be after they come home). Female and Male soldiers who were simply guarding Israel. They were not in combat!!! They were not killing Gazan civilians. They were part of the terrible atrocities committed by HI, on October 7th.

2. Rockets and missiles were fired at Israel every day for over two months, several times a day both from Gaza and Lebanon. It was not until the IDF began making a difference that the rockets fired were less. However, this did not stop the rockets from being fired entirely. The fact is among the miles, and miles of tunnels that were built by HI they have tons and tons of weapons still in their possession. Just last week Tel Aviv and the centre of Israel was targeted with rockets. Now it is true that Israel is blessed with the Iron Dome, however there is still damage. There is damage to schools, where the debris falls from the destruction of these rockets by the Iron Dome. The Iron Dome does not magically take them out of the skies!! The rockets have destroyed houses, have landed in the street, have landed in cars, and really even in Tel Aviv they only have two minutes to get to a safe place. If you are driving, it is rarely possible to get to a safe place in that time. One simply has to turn the engine off, get out of the car and move away from it and then lie on the ground with your hands over your head.

3. The fact is over 100,000 Israelis are displaced from the north of the country due to Hezbollah firing rockets and ATGMs (for which there is no warning). Many, many houses have been destroyed in the north of Israel, plus businesses and people who decided to stay to tend to their farms, and farm animals such as chickens etc. Their lives are ruined!!

4. The fact is 200,000 Israelis are displaced from the south of the country due to the atrocities perpetrated by HI on October 7th. Many who were lucky enough to survive, are living in hotel rooms with families. Many had their houses burnt down by HI, they have nowhere to go back to!! Their lives are ruined!!

5. Regarding what the world calls Humanitarian Aid!! Israel has complied with the request for this aid. Have HI done their part? NO. The Red Cross was supposed to visit the hostages. That was in a signed agreement with the first release of hostages. It did not happen. However, the aid continues to go through to the civilian Gazans, if it ever gets to them! HI systematically takes the aid and distributes it among themselves!! That is a fact which is documented. Two weeks ago HI requested medication. Israel allowed medication to enter Gaza providing the hostages were included in the distribution. Israel has absolutely no evidence that that medication was received by the hostages. Many of whom are in desperate need of it.

6. The Gazan civilians; now many of these people are in desperate need, why is that? It's not because of Israel that's for sure. Was it Israel that perpetrated atrocities upon the Gazan civilians? NO. Oh, right it was HI that carried out the atrocities! How terribly, terribly awful for those civilian Gazans. HI were warned that if they did execute their threats against Israel there would be consequences. The Gazan civilians are aware! How are they aware? Because HI did the same to them, but did they rise up against HI? NO, they voted for them in the last elections which were held more than 15 years ago! HI has had 15 years to plan all this. They teach in UNRWA schools children to kill Jews, how? Well, they give them guns and weapons and show them what has to be done. Why? Because they hate Israel and the Jews!! Do the Gazan civilians have the right to live in peace, of course they do, but peace can only beget peace when there are no atrocities committed against one side or the other.

7. Did Israel commit atrocities against Gazan civilians? NO. The people from the communities that were attacked on October 7th gave them work. Took their children and those in need from Gaza to Israeli hospitals, tried to help them whenever they could. Why? Because Israel does not teach war, or not want peace. Israelis believe that if one wants peace one has to act in a peaceful manner.

Please consider the above FACTS. If you got this far thank you. Am Yisrael Chai!!!

 

[ll74]

I have noted during this thread that it is rare that any of you speak about the things that Israel has suffered since October 7th.

1. The hostages, of whom there are 136, that Hamas-ISIS kidnapped after many were tortured in their beds before they were taken hostage, and many were also murdered on October 7th, HI took their bodies back to Gaza with them!! Israel does not know if the hostages taken alive, are dead or alive now.
Among those hostages are two babies, girls and boys who are still teenagers (of course they won't be after they come home). Female and Male soldiers who were simply guarding Israel. They were not in combat!!! They were not killing Gazan civilians. They were part of the terrible atrocities committed by HI, on October 7th.

2. Rockets and missiles were fired at Israel every day for over two months, several times a day both from Gaza and Lebanon. It was not until the IDF began making a difference that the rockets fired were less. However, this did not stop the rockets from being fired entirely. The fact is among the miles, and miles of tunnels that were built by HI they have tons and tons of weapons still in their possession. Just last week Tel Aviv and the centre of Israel was targeted with rockets. Now it is true that Israel is blessed with the Iron Dome, however there is still damage. There is damage to schools, where the debris falls from the destruction of these rockets by the Iron Dome. The Iron Dome does not magically take them out of the skies!! The rockets have destroyed houses, have landed in the street, have landed in cars, and really even in Tel Aviv they only have two minutes to get to a safe place. If you are driving, it is rarely possible to get to a safe place in that time. One simply has to turn the engine off, get out of the car and move away from it and then lie on the ground with your hands over your head.

3. The fact is over 100,000 Israelis are displaced from the north of the country due to Hezbollah firing rockets and ATGMs (for which there is no warning). Many, many houses have been destroyed in the north of Israel, plus businesses and people who decided to stay to tend to their farms, and farm animals such as chickens etc. Their lives are ruined!!

4. The fact is 200,000 Israelis are displaced from the south of the country due to the atrocities perpetrated by HI on October 7th. Many who were lucky enough to survive, are living in hotel rooms with families. Many had their houses burnt down by HI, they have nowhere to go back to!! Their lives are ruined!!

5. Regarding what the world calls Humanitarian Aid!! Israel has complied with the request for this aid. Have HI done their part? NO. The Red Cross was supposed to visit the hostages. That was in a signed agreement with the first release of hostages. It did not happen. However, the aid continues to go through to the civilian Gazans, if it ever gets to them! HI systematically takes the aid and distributes it among themselves!! That is a fact which is documented. Two weeks ago HI requested medication. Israel allowed medication to enter Gaza providing the hostages were included in the distribution. Israel has absolutely no evidence that that medication was received by the hostages. Many of whom are in desperate need of it.

6. The Gazan civilians; now many of these people are in desperate need, why is that? It's not because of Israel that's for sure. Was it Israel that perpetrated atrocities upon the Gazan civilians? NO. Oh, right it was HI that carried out the atrocities! How terribly, terribly awful for those civilian Gazans. HI were warned that if they did execute their threats against Israel there would be consequences. The Gazan civilians are aware! How are they aware? Because HI did the same to them, but did they rise up against HI? NO, they voted for them in the last elections which were held more than 15 years ago! HI has had 15 years to plan all this. They teach in UNRWA schools children to kill Jews, how? Well, they give them guns and weapons and show them what has to be done. Why? Because they hate Israel and the Jews!! Do the Gazan civilians have the right to live in peace, of course they do, but peace can only beget peace when there are no atrocities committed against one side or the other.

7. Did Israel commit atrocities against Gazan civilians? NO. The people from the communities that were attacked on October 7th gave them work. Took their children and those in need from Gaza to Israeli hospitals, tried to help them whenever they could. Why? Because Israel does not teach war, or not want peace. Israelis believe that if one wants peace one has to act in a peaceful manner.

Please consider the above FACTS. If you got this far thank you. Am Yisrael Chai!!!

We've talked about Oct 7 as well as post Oct 7.

You just don't like that we talk more about Gaza. There's a reason for this...Israel has protections against rocket attacks. Gaza has been levelled. Israelis have, for the most part, not been displaced from their homes. Gazans have, multiple times.

I have sympathy for anyone dealing with attacks on their homes....and their livelihoods....doesn't matter what flag they unite behind.

 

[silky52]

We've talked about Oct 7 as well as post Oct 7.

You just don't like that we talk more about Gaza. There's a reason for this...Israel has protections against rocket attacks. Gaza has been levelled. Israelis have, for the most part, not been displaced from their homes. Gazans have, multiple times.

I have sympathy for anyone dealing with attacks on their homes....and their livelihoods....doesn't matter what flag they unite behind.

You have sympathy for

We've talked about Oct 7 as well as post Oct 7.

You just don't like that we talk more about Gaza. There's a reason for this...Israel has protections against rocket attacks. Gaza has been levelled. Israelis have, for the most part, not been displaced from their homes. Gazans have, multiple times.

I have sympathy for anyone dealing with attacks on their homes....and their livelihoods....doesn't matter what flag they unite behind.

You don't know what you are talking about!

 

[ll74]

You have sympathy for

You don't know what you are talking about!

Yes, you continue to declare your authority on the topic and I continue to reject it

 

[silky52]

Yes, you continue to declare your authority on the topic and I continue to reject it

You are disputing facts. I am merely telling the facts! You are influenced by Hamas-ISIS, and their propaganda, which is exactly what HI love!

 

[ll74]

You are disputing facts. I am merely telling the facts! You are influenced by Hamas-ISIS, and their propaganda, which is exactly what HI love!

Have you been pushed out of your home and has your home been destroyed?

I am not influenced by propaganda. There are satellite photos clearly showing the devastation of Gaza.

I don't support Hamas....ive been clear about that from the very first post.

 

[silky52]

Have you been pushed out of your home and has your home been destroyed?

I am not influenced by propaganda. There are satellite photos clearly showing the devastation of Gaza.

I don't support Hamas....ive been clear about that from the very first post.

Why are you making this personal? Were I to send you a photo of the damage it has caused, you would try and compare it with the destroyed and devastated buildings in Gaza.

There are as I said 300,000 Israeli displaced. Their homes are damaged shattered some irreparable, some burned down by HI. IMHO you most certainly are singing the HI song for them! Of course there is devastation in Gaza, look at what they did to Israel. I'd like to see the US stand still and do nothing! Vietnam, 9/11, etc, etc.

Do you honestly believe that Israel would give her beautiful younger generation of soldiers up to war if they did not have to? Why would Israel destroy Gaza? It's not for fun believe me.

 

[ll74]

Why are you making this personal? Were I to send you a photo of the damage it has caused, you would try and compare it with the destroyed and devastated buildings in Gaza.

You're making this personal.

There are as I said 300,000 Israeli displaced. Their homes are damaged shattered some irreparable, some burned down by HI. IMHO you most certainly are singing the HI song for them! Of course there is devastation in Gaza, look at what they did to Israel. I'd like to see the US stand still and do nothing! Vietnam, 9/11, etc, etc.

There are millions of Palestinians displaced. All their homes are destroyed.

You seem to dismiss their plight and expect attention only on Israelis.

The Israeli displaced are the ones living in Gaza.

Do you honestly believe that Israel would give her beautiful younger generation of soldiers up to war if they did not have to? Why would Israel destroy Gaza? It's not for fun believe me.

You're missing the point, completely.

 

[ll74]

Why are you making this personal? Were I to send you a photo of the damage it has caused, you would try and compare it with the destroyed and devastated buildings in Gaza.

There are as I said 300,000 Israeli displaced. Their homes are damaged shattered some irreparable, some burned down by HI. IMHO you most certainly are singing the HI song for them! Of course there is devastation in Gaza, look at what they did to Israel. I'd like to see the US stand still and do nothing! Vietnam, 9/11, etc, etc.

Do you honestly believe that Israel would give her beautiful younger generation of soldiers up to war if they did not have to? Why would Israel destroy Gaza? It's not for fun believe me.

I asked you this before and you even replied - is the objective,that Israel has declared, reachable?

You answered no.

That, in itself, is my main complaint. An open ended war results in nothing but death and destruction. It helps no one.

And that is not a perspective that relies on propaganda from either camp....it's simple reason and logic.

 

[silky52]

There are millions of Palestinians displaced. All their homes are destroyed. ---

Not true. It's not millions it's less than a million.

You seem to dismiss their plight and expect attention only on Israelis.

If only!! You are missing the point that due to the Hamas-ISIS propaganda most of the attention is on the Gazans.

The Israeli displaced are the ones living in Gaza.

You have to be kidding?? No Israelis live in Gaza! Only the Gazans who are ruled by Hamas-ISIS live in Gaza. Israelis only live in Israel! Just shows you how much kool aid you have swallowed.

That, in itself, is my main complaint. An open ended war results in nothing but death and destruction. It helps no one.

And that is not a perspective that relies on propaganda from either camp....it's simple reason and logic.

So, what exactly would you do? There is no choice Israel is are fighting for their lives, don't you get that?

By the way, Israel is fighting on two fronts, both their north and southern borders. However, Mr. Biden has told them not to make too much of the northern border, otherwise......

 

[ll74]

There are millions of Palestinians displaced. All their homes are destroyed. ---

Not true. It's not millions it's less than a million.

Bullshit

You seem to dismiss their plight and expect attention only on Israelis.

If only!! You are missing the point that due to the Hamas-ISIS propaganda most of the attention is on the Gazans.

Incorrect.

The Israeli displaced are the ones living in Gaza.

You have to be kidding?? No Israelis live in Gaza! Only the Gazans who are ruled by Hamas-ISIS live in Gaza. Israelis only live in Israel! Just shows you how much kool aid you have swallowed.

Of course they don't. Which is why there are settlements in Gaza.

That, in itself, is my main complaint. An open ended war results in nothing but death and destruction. It helps no one.

And that is not a perspective that relies on propaganda from either camp....it's simple reason and logic.

So, what exactly would you do? There is no choice Israel is are fighting for their lives, don't you get that?

By the way, Israel is fighting on two fronts, both their north and southern borders. However, Mr. Biden has told them not to make too much of the northern border, otherwise......

I would seek out leadership that wants peace. I would force Hamas to accept defeat with pressure from the international community. I would negotiate with major players to force hostage release.

 

[ll74]

You're fucking blind woman

Satellite photos of Gaza, before and after relentless bombing by Israel

The estimated population of the Gaza Strip for 2023 was around 2.1 million people.

 

[silky52]

Bullshit
You are considering the numbers that Hamas-ISIS puts out!! No one actually knows how many there are evacuated or dead. The IDF has said that 10,000 HI are dead. They do not know how many are evacuated, and yes they were evacuated, asked to leave so that the IDF can deal with HI!!

Incorrect.
I can assure you I am correct.

Of course they don't. Which is why there are settlements in Gaza.

Oh, you are funny, please do your homework. ISRAELIS DO NOT LIVE IN GAZA!!!! THERE ARE NO SETTLEMENTS IN GAZA!!!

I would seek out leadership that wants peace. I would force Hamas to accept defeat with pressure from the international community. I would negotiate with major players to force hostage release.

Yes, the people of Israel may well seek new leadership, but not in the middle of a war. I'd like to see you tackle HI, and who do you think Israel is negotiating with now, the Chinese, or the Iranians perhaps??

Like I said, your knowledge is very lacking, I don't mean to offend, but what you say does not always make sense.

 

[ll74]

Yes, the people of Israel may well seek new leadership, but not in the middle of a war.

Why not?

I'd like to see you tackle HI, and who do you think Israel is negotiating with now, the Chinese, or the Iranians perhaps??

Qatar has been primarily the proxy negotiating party along with the UK and US. I'd like to see the UN get more involved as well and get the Palestinian Authority involved more.

Like I said, your knowledge is very lacking, I don't mean to offend, but what you say does not always make sense.

Awesome for you.
Your bias for Israel blinds you.

 

[okwhynot64]

This is the only thread I see.



I do not support the Israeli occupation.

Sincere question: Israel left Gaza in 2005. Exactly what are they occupying?

Unless you think the nation of Israel ITSELF is not deserving of the lands they inhabit now (in which case, I'd rather not debate as there will be no convincing you Israeli peoples were in that land long before Mohammed).

 

[silky52]

Why not?

Qatar has been primarily the proxy negotiating party along with the UK and US. I'd like to see the UN get more involved as well and get the Palestinian Authority involved more.


Awesome for you.
Your bias for Israel blinds you.

Why not? Because they have a majority in the knesset and it would take the government falling for elections to happen. In which case Yair Lapid (leader of the opposition) said that he would step in to uphold the government. It is absolutely imperative that Israel gets the hostages back NOW!!

Qatar has been primarily the proxy negotiating party along with the UK and US. I'd like to see the UN get more involved as well and get the Palestinian Authority involved more

Qatar are with Hamas-ISIS all the way. Otherwise the hostages would have been returned by now. Where do you think the leaders of HI live? They certainly don't live in Gaza with the Gazans! The UN are anti-semitic mostly Muslim and Arab supporters! Did you not see what UNRWA have done. They are the UN! The PA will be involved at the end of the war!! After the stop protecting HI!!

Awesome for you.
Your bias for Israel blinds you.

It does not blind me, I see everything, and I listen to Al Jazeera every morning, do you? I know what's going on believe me. Besides which my great grandparents families all died in the gas chambers, what would you expect me to be? I am a Jew and I will always be a Jew, and I will always defend MY people!!!

 

[ll74]

Why not? Because they have a majority in the knesset and it would take the government falling for elections to happen. In which case Yair Lapid (leader of the opposition) said that he would step in to uphold the government. It is absolutely imperative that Israel gets the hostages back NOW!!

They aren't trying to get the hostages back.

Qatar are with Hamas-ISIS all the way. Otherwise the hostages would have been returned by now. Where do you think the leaders of HI live? They certainly don't live in Gaza with the Gazans! The UN are anti-semitic mostly Muslim and Arab supporters! Did you not see what UNRWA have done. They are the UN! The PA will be involved at the end of the war!! After the stop protecting HI!!

Qatar is a somewhat neutral party and was pivotal in getting hostages back so far.

Awesome for you.
Your bias for Israel blinds you.

It does not blind me, I see everything, and I listen to Al Jazeera every morning, do you? I know what's going on believe me. Besides which my great grandparents families all died in the gas chambers, what would you expect me to be? I am a Jew and I will always be a Jew, and I will always defend MY people!!!

It does blind you.

I never listen or read al.jazeera.

I posted one source from there in this thread and even commented on how the information was not corroborated.

I find at least three sources of corroboration before sharing information.

 

[silky52]

They aren't trying to get the hostages back.


Qatar is a somewhat neutral party and was pivotal in getting hostages back so far.


It does blind you.

Qatar is a somewhat neutral party and was pivotal in getting hostages back so far.

Where do you get your information from? Qatar hates Jews. Hates Israelis, and is most certainly not neutral!!

They aren't trying to get the hostages back.

Who is they? If you are talking about the Israeli government, you are incorrect.


It most certainly does NOT blind me! Yes, I am for Israel, but I am not against Arabs I would love to be able to live with them in peace. There are so many Arabs here that live in Israel who are not like those that hate us!

 

[ll74]

It most certainly does NOT!

It does.....but keep thinking it doesn't.

 

[ll74]

Qatar is a somewhat neutral party and was pivotal in getting hostages back so far.

Where do you get your information from? Qatar hates Jews. Hates Israelis, and is most certainly not neutral!!

Specifically their negotiations have been neutral. The ceasefire did not give advantage to either party.

They aren't trying to get the hostages back.

Who is they? If you are talking about the Israeli government, you are incorrect.

Bullshit.

It most certainly does NOT blind me! Yes, I am for Israel, but I am not against Arabs I would love to be able to live with them in peace. There are so many Arabs here that live in Israel who are not like those that hate us!

It does blind you.

 

[Lazaran]

I would say Israel IS trying to get the hostages back with their all out retaliation approach, while simultaneously NOT capitulating in any significant way to the Hamas animals.

The all out retaliation approach obviously played a large part in the initial hostage release, and it may well yield results a second time.

I also believe it’s finally dawning on the Hamas animals and the Palestinian "civilians" that October 7th was a victory in reverse.

*nods*

 

[RobDownSouth]

Satellite imagery shows Israel Offense Force destroying anything that lives and any building that stands within one km of Israeli-Gaza border.
We continue to watch Israeli genocide in real time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1753463687480828035