Do you own your body?

[Bn2f]

This, if memory serves me well, all mostly happened in a Wal Mart parking lot. Its fortunate bystanders were not injured. Also, if memory serves me well, one the police victims was the son of the police chief and, I won't share or link, but the news showed the heartbreaking dash cam of the father coming upon the scene to realize the terrible circumstances.

No. Sorry, my memory did fail me. There's been so many senseless cop killings that I got this mixed up. None of the officers were sons of the chief.

 

[jaF0]

This, unfortunately, was the first I had heard of this supposed movement.

Look up Gordon Kahl.

 

[Bn2f]

Look up Gordon Kahl.

Thank you for the info!
So the moral of the story is that in 1983, 3 well armed individuals with a network of accomplices from N.D. to Arkansas with an alternate belief of American law were able to kill 2 officers and injure many others, but came nowhere close to overthrowing anything, but sure - I need whatever weapon is necessary to overthrow tyranny. Is that about right? I always want to ask - tyranny according to whom??? I've noticed that this almost always comes from a selfish and privileged POV.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Are you not an aware of the sovereign citizen movement?

They believe the legal system works like magic does in the Harry Potter universe.

If you just say the right words, you unlock magical legal powers. They’re hilarious. You should look up some YouTube videos of them getting smacked down in court.


Just remember, you’re not driving, you’re ‘traveling’. LOL

Seriously, they are hilarious. Incredibly deluded, but hilarious.

Look into contract law and the UCC. government is just business, that’s all. Your birth certificate is a bond. The US did go bankrupt in 1933. The US is a corporation. That’s all. Unless you fix your paperwork you are owned. I have, as of yet, not completed my paperwork. There’s a big game board that is set up upon the earth, it has lots of rules and those rules have purposefully been kept out of education. It just is. It’s business, not conspiracy. As far as the sovereign citizen stuff I think it’s prettier delusional in terms of what people think they can get. Whatever to the rest.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Actually, abortion IS singularly about women - at least the people with a uterus. I'm not the least bit surprised by your cowardice.

Pregnancy, unlike diseases, is not communicable. If you want to go down that route, then take it up with the drunken rambling poster above.

Answer the question: You said that the government owns you. Why can't the government compel organ and tissue donation?

If they really want to they can. We were stupid to let medicine turn into a business. Cowardice?? You’re an angry woman. Your health is yours to tend.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

This is lame.

You want to put in an argument that women do not get to control their bodies by pointing to some moronic tin foil hat wearer while claiming that the government owns all the bodies of all American citizens.

Fuck right off to dumbshitville where you came from.

All people are ultimately responsible for their own health.

 

[adrina]

If they really want to they can. We were stupid to let medicine turn into a business. Cowardice?? You’re an angry woman. Your health is yours to tend.

All people are ultimately responsible for their own health.

Damn right I'm angry that an extreme stacked SCOTUS lied under oath and overturned precedent, making the rights of American women dependent upon geography.

Yes you are a coward. You are hiding behind conspiracy theories while women in this country are put second to a fetus.

The American government does not own the bodies of American citizens. The most they can do is rent them and for that they must pay. That you are using your lame ass conspiracy theory to casually dismiss forced fetal slavery is mind boggling.

 

[bijedi]

Look into contract law and the UCC. government is just business, that’s all. Your birth certificate is a bond. The US did go bankrupt in 1933. The US is a corporation. That’s all. Unless you fix your paperwork you are owned. I have, as of yet, not completed my paperwork. There’s a big game board that is set up upon the earth, it has lots of rules and those rules have purposefully been kept out of education. It just is. It’s business, not conspiracy. As far as the sovereign citizen stuff I think it’s prettier delusional in terms of what people think they can get. Whatever to the rest.

None of this is true.

The United States cannot go bankrupt, that is a nonsensical concept. The US can default on its debt obligations, but that is not the same as going bankrupt.

The US government is not a corporation. Another concept that makes no sense. Corporations are legal fictions created by state governments. Why would the state the government is supposedly incorporated in subject itself to federal authority?

So yeah, it’s all conspiracy theory bullshit.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Damn right I'm angry that an extreme stacked SCOTUS lied under oath and overturned precedent, making the rights of American women dependent upon geography.

Yes you are a coward. You are hiding behind conspiracy theories while women in this country are put second to a fetus.

The American government does not own the bodies of American citizens. The most they can do is rent them and for that they must pay. That you are using your lame ass conspiracy theory to casually dismiss forced fetal slavery is mind boggling.

You’re an angry ignorant person.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

None of this is true.

The United States cannot go bankrupt, that is a nonsensical concept. The US can default on its debt obligations, but that is not the same as going bankrupt.

The US government is not a corporation. Another concept that makes no sense. Corporations are legal fictions created by state governments. Why would the state the government is supposedly incorporated in subject itself to federal authority?

So yeah, it’s all conspiracy theory bullshit.

Whatever makes you feel better!

 

[adrina]

You’re an angry ignorant person.

Irony.

 

[RandyRebecca]

All people are ultimately responsible for their own health.

It should be shared by the entire community, i.e. nationalized, universal healthcare.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

It should be shared by the entire community, i.e. nationalized, universal healthcare.

Non profit and would be nice to see people start eating real food. I’m stunned at the current state of the population health wise. It’s abysmal with few exceptions.

 

[jaF0]

Bidens invite Kate Cox, woman denied abortion in Texas, to attend State of the Union​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.msn.com.icoABC News|3 hours ago
President Joe Biden invited Kate Cox, the Texas woman who was denied an emergency abortion by the state's Supreme Court in December, to be a guest at the State of the Union, the White House ...

 

[ll74]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1750255452577804596

 

[adrina]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1750255452577804596

So much for that whole "eliminating rape" thing, but then we knew that.

 

[jaF0]

"JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — After repeated failed attempts, Mississippi lawmakers will try again to revive a ballot initiative process, but their latest proposal would not allow changes to the state’s abortion laws through a statewide election.

The Republican-dominated House approved the resolution in an 80-39 vote Wednesday hours after an all-male group of Republican lawmakers advanced the resolution in a committee."

...

"“The abortion issue has been an issue that the majority of the House has championed for the past decade,” said Republican Rep. Fred Shanks of Brandon. “The House was the force that overturned Roe vs. Wade. It was no one else. It was us. And I just don’t think we want to be messing with it.”"

https://apnews.com/article/mississippi-ballot-intiative-abortion-2da2169722fc76035d2200f9d3cc3e4c


And we don't care what the people think. So there!!!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Look into contract law and the UCC. government is just business, that’s all. Your birth certificate is a bond. The US did go bankrupt in 1933. The US is a corporation. That’s all. Unless you fix your paperwork you are owned. I have, as of yet, not completed my paperwork. There’s a big game board that is set up upon the earth, it has lots of rules and those rules have purposefully been kept out of education. It just is. It’s business, not conspiracy. As far as the sovereign citizen stuff I think it’s prettier delusional in terms of what people think they can get. Whatever to the rest.

The US is NOT a business.

 

[jaF0]

U.S. News // 8 hours ago
Nearly 65K rape-related pregnancies occurred in abortion ban states, study estimates
Jan. 25 (UPI) -- A new study estimates nearly 65,000 rape-related pregnancies have occurred since the reversal of Roe vs. Wade in states with total abortion bans.

 

[Chernosoth]

Nobody cared about abortion until the population became more urban with less kids. On a farm, kids are valued for work. In a city, kids are liabilities that require time off work for childcare. That will be less of an issue as we run out of fossil fuels and become mostly farmers.

 

[adrina]

Nobody cared about abortion until the population became more urban with less kids. On a farm, kids are valued for work. In a city, kids are liabilities that require time off work for childcare. That will be less of an issue as we run out of fossil fuels and become mostly farmers.

You may want to ask the women if they cared. Pumping out 10+ kids doesn't just happen on its own.

What an utterly tone deaf statement which demonstrates why men should have less or no say in abortion. If this is your perspective then it deserves zero respect or regard.

 

[Chernosoth]

Pumping out 10+ kids doesn't just happen on its own.

They won't all survive. Childhood diseases and accidents will end many lives. Conceiving many with the hope that a few will become adults is how the human species survives.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

The US is NOT a business.

That’s all it is Spidey! Now go back inside and watch your cartoons!!

 

[TastySuckToy]

which demonstrates why men should have less or no say in abortion.

I actually favour this perspective, so long as women equally have zero say on men paying for kids they don't want to pay for.

 

[adrina]

They won't all survive. Childhood diseases and accidents will end many lives. Conceiving many with the hope that a few will become adults is how the human species survives.

Again, no thought to the "brood mare". Par for the course.

I actually favour this perspective, so long as women equally have zero say on men paying for kids they don't want to pay for.

Ironically I bet you're also one of these people that will break down a fight step by step and how the law applies to it.

Yet somehow expect the rights and responsibilities of impregnation to be the same as the rights and responsibilities of gestation.

Perceptions and priorities.

I also wonder why men invest so little effort into birth control and so much effort into avoiding it.

Interesting monsters...