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[Rightguide]

Didn't another attack happen in the country last week?

Why aren't Israelis calling for Neranyahu to step down? Still not getting that.

Which is no surprise.

 

[ll74]

Which is no surprise.

You actually support Netanyahu staying in power?

 

[RobDownSouth]

You lost me at hello.

<anti=Palestinian rant snip>

Pfft. I lost you months ago. Somehow, I still manage to sleep at night, but then I'm not the one with the need to rationalize genocide.

 

[Lazaran]

Pfft. I lost you months ago. Somehow, I still manage to sleep at night, but then I'm not the one with the need to rationalize genocide.

Newsflash / hint;

You never had me…



Also:

There is no "genocide” being perpetrated by the Israelis, so there is no "genocide"to rationalize from this side.



Meanwhile, October 7th and:

Condemn Hamas?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747830215961702769

 

[silky52]

Didn't another attack happen in the country last week?

Not like the last one, and not that I know of.

Why aren't Israelis calling for Neranyahu to step down? Still not getting that.

Many are, don't worry. However, there are many calling for Ben Gvir.

Did you hear the latest from Hamas-ISIS? They want us to leave, release all the terrorists that are in jail, including those who committed the atrocities, and then guarantee that HI has the power back over Gaza, and they will possibly give back the hostages!! PM says nooooo way!!

Believe me there will be no diplomatic way out of this. They are after blood, and they are very clever about it. It's worldwide, and it's antisemitism, they want Jews dead, it doesn't matter where they are. There was an interesting man on Al Jazeera this morning, Aaron Miller an American. He made the point that none of the Arab states that have signed the Abraham Accords have said that they are backing out! IMHO this is totally on Iran!

 

[ll74]

Not like the last one, and not that I know of.

Why aren't Israelis calling for Neranyahu to step down? Still not getting that.

Many are, don't worry. However, there are many calling for Ben Gvir.

Did you hear the latest from Hamas-ISIS? They want us to leave, release all the terrorists that are in jail, including those who committed the atrocities, and then guarantee that HI has the power back over Gaza, and they will possibly give back the hostages!! PM says nooooo way!!

Believe me there will be no diplomatic way out of this. They are after blood, and they are very clever about it. It's worldwide, and it's antisemitism, they want Jews dead, it doesn't matter where they are. There was an interesting man on Al Jazeera this morning, Aaron Miller an American. He made the point that none of the Arab states that have signed the Abraham Accords have said that they are backing out! IMHO this is totally on Iran!

I have no idea what safe is to you, but that isn't it to me

 

[ll74]

Netanyahu rejects Hamas’ conditions for deal to release hostages and end war as pressure mounts to free remaining captives​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected Hamas’ conditions for an end to the Gaza war in exchange for the release of hostages held there as he faces increasing public pressure to bring the captives home.

Gadi suggest.elections and adjustment of objectives

War cabinet minister Gadi Eisenkot last week suggested that the key war aim of defeating Hamas is unrealistic and called for elections within months. Eisenkot also said the government had failed to achieve what he says should be its highest priority: securing the release of the hostages.

Meanwhile, Israelis protest to put priority on hostage release

On Monday, more than a dozen people, including families of the hostages, forced their way into a meeting held by the Israeli parliament’s finance committee. The protesters held placards that read: “You will not sit here while they die there.”

 

[ll74]

The so called 2 State Solution is a pipe dream of the West, and they know it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1749049490009440569

It is not.

 

[snailspace]

In light of what the Hamas leadership said, how is it not?

 

[ll74]

In light of what the Hamas leadership said, how is it not?

Both sides' leadership have said things that reject a two state solution. The most you can say is that it's not possible with current leadership....and Ive already agreed with that.

But white_bB (and you, I'm guessing) believe the fault is entirely one sided....which is just biased bullshit.

 

[silky52]

It is not.

it is actually. The Arabs will not allow it. They simply want to destroy Israel and put themselves in place of them! They have proved this time and time again, and they have said it time and time again. People are not listening again!

 

[silky52]

Both sides' leadership have said things that reject a two state solution. The most you can say is that it's not possible with current leadership....and Ive already agreed with that.

But white_bB (and you, I'm guessing) believe the fault is entirely one sided....which is just biased bullshit.

Neither sides 'want' such a solution, especially not the present Israeli government. However, Israelis would accept such a solution if the Arabs were not armed, and were supervised by foreign entities.

Hamas-ISIS confirmed today that there is no deal for the hostages, and that they set pre-conditions for TALKS ONLY as in Israel is to vacate Gaza, and leave Hamas-ISIS in charge of the Gaza Strip. Then, and only THEN would they begin talking about the hostages!!! My source is from Israel Today, and if I remember correctly, it was early this morning that that was advertised. Thus Israeli PM has said and emphatic NO, NO, NO.

Seriously, what would the lives that have been lost including Israeli soldiers be worth if he had said Yes to such a solution!! Who in their right mind would say yes to such a solution.

On a brighter note Hezbollah has been put on notice that if there are no incidents for 48 hours there will be no repercussions.

 

[ll74]

it is actually. The Arabs will not allow it. They simply want to destroy Israel and put themselves in place of them! They have proved this time and time again, and they have said it time and time again. People are not listening again!

Yes, you all (on both sides) continue to tell me one side won't let it happen.

As I said....neither side has been pressured to do anything towards a two state solution and both sides are fine blaming each other for it because their supporters, such as yourself, are fine with it.

If you want peace, the push for peace.. of you don't, eat up what your given.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Israeli Wehrmacht death toll surpasses 25,000 Gazans killed.

EU Minister says Israel’s campaign is “seeding the hate for generations.”

This is either "genocide" or "collective punishment", take your pick.

We used to hang Nazis for either offense.

Those under 50 ask your father about this.

 

[ll74]

Neither sides 'want' such a solution, especially not the present Israeli government. However, Israelis would accept such a solution if the Arabs were not armed, and were supervised by foreign entities.

Hamas-ISIS confirmed today that there is no deal for the hostages, and that they set pre-conditions for TALKS ONLY as in Israel is to vacate Gaza, and leave Hamas-ISIS in charge of the Gaza Strip. Then, and only THEN would they begin talking about the hostages!!! My source is from Israel Today, and if I remember correctly, it was early this morning that that was advertised. Thus Israeli PM has said and emphatic NO, NO, NO.

Seriously, what would the lives that have been lost including Israeli soldiers be worth if he had said Yes to such a solution!! Who in their right mind would say yes to such a solution.

On a brighter note Hezbollah has been put on notice that if there are no incidents for 48 hours there will be no repercussions.

I think the path forward is elections for both sides and an international force in Gaza to hold the line until those elections are held.. after such point, international assistance should be maintained until such time that a two state solution is achieved.

And it is a possible outcome...regardless of what people think is impossible.

 

[Lazaran]

Israeli Wehrmacht death toll surpasses 25,000 Gazans killed.

EU Minister says Israel’s campaign is “seeding the hate for generations.”

This is either "genocide" or "collective punishment", take your pick.

We used to hang Nazis for either offense.

Those under 50 ask your father about this.

So Israel is NOW "seeding the hate for generations", but the Hamas animals and the Palestinian "civilians" who allowed their children to be indoctrinated into Jihad loooooong before the Israeli’s perfectly justified and measured (measured to eliminate the current and future threat of the Hamas animal’s heinous acts, like October 7th, which the Hamas animal’s have promised to revisit upon Israel in perpetuity) response to the Hamas animal’s GENOCIDAL rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation weren’t ALREADY "seeding the hate for generations"???



What about all the other entities that have been calling for and attempting the destruction of Jews and Israel for the past 75 + years??? We’re they "seeding the hate for generations" too???



GTFO

 

[ShandyLeer]

I think the path forward is elections for both sides and an international force in Gaza to hold the line until those elections are held.. after such point, international assistance should be maintained until such time that a two state solution is achieved.

And it is a possible outcome...regardless of what people think is impossible.

Two state solution will comeback around again, but obviously it requires a few stars to align to make it possible. It’s all a bit raw at the moment and leaders on both sides are both dismissing the idea because, for now, it suits them.

Time, a change in leadership in Israel and some combination of likely Arab funded protectorate/policing role would probably do it.

Seems inescapable to me though that the less than pinpoint precision the Israelis have chosen to respond with has poisoned the well for a while.

 

[ll74]

Two state solution will comeback around again, but obviously it requires a few stars to align to make it possible. It’s all a bit raw for now, and leaders on both sides are both dismissing the idea because, for now, it suits them.

Time, a change in leadership in Israel and some combination of likely Arab funded protectorate/policing role would probably do it.

Seems inescapable to me though that the less than pinpoint precision the Israelis have chosen to respond with has poisoned the well for a while.

Both parties are not on the road to any solution of peace. And so we should pressure them to find the leadership and will to get there.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Both parties are not on the road to any solution of peace. And so we should pressure them to find the leadership and will to get there.

On the Israeli side that’s easy - they respond entirely to US pressure, but it requires the right conditions in America to produce a leadership that’s willing to use its influence here. Trump obviously won’t do it.

But likewise the Palestinians need to be policed and protected by a force that suppresses the terrorists and gives the population half a chance to get out from under the grip of these sinister fuckers

 

[ll74]

On the Israeli side that’s easy - they respond entirely to US pressure, but it requires the right conditions in America to produce a leadership that’s willing to use its influence here. Trump obviously won’t do it.

But likewise the Palestinians need to be policed and protected by a force that suppresses the terrorists and gives the population half a chance to get out from under the grip of these sinister fuckers

It's rough when the organization that was up for it was basically sidelined by Israel...and the group who carried out the attacks were promoted.

Gazans need to have a voice and a new election. I continue to call for Israel to do the same.....they don't deserve to stay in power

 

[silky52]

Two state solution will comeback around again, but obviously it requires a few stars to align to make it possible. It’s all a bit raw at the moment and leaders on both sides are both dismissing the idea because, for now, it suits them.

Time, a change in leadership in Israel and some combination of likely Arab funded protectorate/policing role would probably do it.

Seems inescapable to me though that the less than pinpoint precision the Israelis have chosen to respond with has poisoned the well for a while.

More like the media has poisoned the well of the world. Israel does make pinpoint precision as well as they can. I'd like to see some of you out on the field in Gaza! See what you think then!

 

[silky52]

Israeli Wehrmacht death toll surpasses 25,000 Gazans killed.

EU Minister says Israel’s campaign is “seeding the hate for generations.”

This is either "genocide" or "collective punishment", take your pick.

We used to hang Nazis for either offense.

Those under 50 ask your father about this.

I wish they'd hang you. You are an antisemitic!

 

[silky52]

It's rough when the organization that was up for it was basically sidelined by Israel...and the group who carried out the attacks were promoted.

Gazans need to have a voice and a new election. I continue to call for Israel to do the same.....they don't deserve to stay in power

In Utopia maybe!

 

[ll74]

In Utopia maybe!

In a better world.....which is made by people who want a better world.

 

[icanhelp1]

it is actually. The Arabs will not allow it. They simply want to destroy Israel and put themselves in place of them! They have proved this time and time again, and they have said it time and time again. People are not listening again!

When the authoritarian theocrats of Iran are eliminated perhaps a two state solution can be negotiated. The hatred for Israel originates from Iran.