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[ll74]

from the article:

so definitely some American influence, but there's worldwide pressure growing for a ceasefire as the Palestinian casualties grow exponentially; the horrors of Oct.7th created great sympathy for Israel, but the loss of Palestinian civilian lives has since outstripped those lost then many many times over and public opinion means pressure, whether home-grown or in the form of sanctions/withdrawal of funding support.

Ok, I failed the reading test. Note to self - read before posting....lol....

Thanks for the information

 

[Rightguide]

As I said....those who don't have fortitude and conviction admit defeat. Leadership that wants peace will achieve it.

Neither side wants peace at present. Hamas wants enough time to rearm so they can kill more Jews and Joe Biden and his followers are trying to help them do that by pretending that peace is possible with radical Islam.

 

[ll74]

Neither side wants peace at present.

Correct. Nor did they prior to October 7. Current Leadership is content with the fighting and wars

Hamas wants enough time to rearm so they can kill more Jews and Joe Biden and his followers are trying to help them do that by pretending that peace is possible with radical Islam.

And there it is......the blame for one side.

Shocker

 

[Fuzzy1975]

My question is .... at what point do the houthi's turn their weapons on the Saudi oil facilities and producing oil fields? What then becomes of the world oil market?

The US is on track to produce more barrels of oil in 2023 than Saudi Arabia. You think the Houthi's are going to attack US assets?

 

[Chobham]

Correct. Nor did they prior to October 7. Current Leadership is content with the fighting and wars


And there it is......the blame for one side.

Shocker

Who, in virtually EVERY instance has initiated the hostilities? Israel has had enough and I don't blame them. Wipe the Hamas bastards off the face of the Earth and then go after Hezbollah.

As far as the Houthi's go it appears that an international task force is going to deal with them

Now, if only Biden would grow some balls and enforce the sanctions against Iran.

 

[ll74]

Who, in virtually EVERY instance has initiated the hostilities? Israel has had enough and I don't blame them. Wipe the Hamas bastards off the face of the Earth and then go after Hezbollah.

The way to peace isn't blame.

As far as the Houthi's go it appears that an international task force is going to deal with them

Now, if only Biden would grow some balls and enforce the sanctions against Iran.

That won't help.

 

[Noor]

The US is on track to produce more barrels of oil in 2023 than Saudi Arabia. You think the Houthi's are going to attack US assets?

The us has been self sufficient in oil since 2014.

 

[zipman]

The way to peace isn't blame.

That won't help.

The way to peace does not involve Hamas. It's beyond naive to think it does. Hamas needs to be utterly destroyed. Whoever takes their place can then negotiate with the next Israeli government.

 

[Chobham]

The way to peace isn't blame.

That won't help.

So, stripping the Iranians of cash used to supply their various surrogate terrorist groups won't help? Explain.

 

[ll74]

The way to peace does not involve Hamas. It's beyond naive to think it does. Hamas needs to be utterly destroyed. Whoever takes their place can then negotiate with the next Israeli government.

I don't think Hamas is involved in peace.

 

[ll74]

So, stripping the Iranians of cash used to supply their various surrogate terrorist groups won't help? Explain.

Sanctions don't remove cash.

Just ask Russia.

 

[Chobham]

Oh yes they do. Under the enforced sanctions Iran's chart of foreign accounts was reduced to $4 billion, it is now over $60 billion.

As far as Russia goes.

Going back to your "peace' quip. When an adversary refuses of negotiate in good faith and then attacks you the only road to peace is to reduce your now enemy to the point that they have neither the will of the means to cause you harm. The faster you can achieve that goal, the better for all.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The us has been self sufficient in oil since 2014.

True ( it may even have been 2012) but this is the first time the USA will be the number one world producer of barrels of oil.

 

[ll74]

Oh yes they do. Under the enforced sanctions Iran's chart of foreign accounts was reduced to $4 billion, it is now over $60 billion.

As far as Russia goes.

Going back to your "peace' quip. When an adversary refuses of negotiate in good faith and then attacks you the only road to peace is to reduce your now enemy to the point that they have neither the will of the means to cause you harm. The faster you can achieve that goal, the better for all.

Yes, leadership of both parties refuse to negotiate for peace in good faith.

You think it's just one party.

As for sanctions, they work until they don't. It relies up on cooperation amongst states.

 

[Noor]

True ( it may even have been 2012) but this is the first time the USA will be the number one world producer of barrels of oil.

I did consider 2012, I just couldn’t remember exactly.
I figure as long as we aren’t dependent on opec, we’re good.

 

[Chobham]

Yes, leadership of both parties refuse to negotiate for peace in good faith.

You think it's just one party.

As for sanctions, they work until they don't. It relies up on cooperation amongst states.

You keep saying that while refusing to accept that from the stateless Arabs point of view there can be NO two state solution. They insist on the elimination of Israel because that IS their state. That fact is in their respective charters. Even their fellow Arabs are sick of their shit, so much so they have turned to their sworn religious adversaries, the Iranian's (Shia) for support. They have reduced themselves to 'paid for hire' death cults. Fuck'em.

 

[ll74]

You keep saying that while refusing to accept that from the stateless Arabs point of view there can be NO two state solution. They insist on the elimination of Israel because that IS their state. That fact is in their respective charters. Even their fellow Arabs are sick of their shit, so much so they have turned to their sworn religious adversaries, the Iranian's (Shia) for support. They have reduced themselves to 'paid for hire' death cults. Fuck'em.

Yes, you don't believe any solution is possible, as you've stated over and over again....and the blame is completely on one side. Yet Netanyahu has been on record saying that he contributed and supported Hamas in order to delegitamize other parties who were more supportive of a peaceful two state solution.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I did consider 2012, I just couldn’t remember exactly.
I figure as long as we aren’t dependent on opec, we’re good.

Oil is a global commodity. It may be produced in the US, but the oil companies sell it to the highest bidder. It's not "our" oil, it's Exxon's oil.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Oil is a global commodity. It may be produced in the US, but the oil companies sell it to the highest bidder. It's not "our" oil, it's Exxon's oil.

Correct!! So next time the price of a barrel of oil goes up, you're gona blame them, not the sitting President, right?

 

[Chobham]

Yes, you don't believe any solution is possible, as you've stated over and over again....and the blame is completely on one side. Yet Netanyahu has been on record saying that he contributed and supported Hamas in order to delegitamize other parties who were more supportive of a peaceful two state solution.

Bring a reputable source to the party.

 

[Buffalogurl]

The US is on track to produce more barrels of oil in 2023 than Saudi Arabia. You think the Houthi's are going to attack US assets?

Fuzzy, I know the US is at the highest oil production at the present, however a loss of production in Saudi Arabia will affect the markets, I'll add this as well with all of the illegal aliens streaming across the southern border even the fbi (if you can believe anything they report) are warning of Islamic terrorists attacks. All this will take is a Muslim terrorist with a smuggled RPG-7 rocket propelled grenade to just ruin your day by striking a tank battery, refinery infrastructure, or a shipping facility..... it's only a matter of time..... you need to understand we are at ww3
One more thing, when America falls Canada will crash as well and your black face wearing, nazi sympathizer, coward leader will do absolutely nothing to stop it...... the thing is that jackass really believes he has a place at the table
Fuzzy, I'm not being snarky..... just think about it...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Fuzzy, I know the US is at the highest oil production at the present, however a loss of production in Saudi Arabia will affect the markets,

I don't think you do, otherwise, why did you post this:

Yupper, old two scoops himself has out done them all, it is sooooo much easier to carry my purse now that it's much, much lighter due to the fact I'm not having all that money around after going grocery shopping or filling my fuel barrel.

or this?

Hide and watch, when Iran closes the straits of hormuz. 20% of the world's oil passes through it. Gee ya suppose just maybe diesel and gas prices skyrocket to oh, maybe 7-8 dollars a gallon hmmmmm....
O'l two scoops drained the strategic oil reserves down to next to nothing,(to manipulate the oil market), shut down the keystone, ect... you Biden regime supporters remember you wanted this, you voted for this.....
Your food and goods are headed for a price increase...... this is what you voted for.....

or this?

Thanks to O'l two scoops our own oil production in this country has been crippled

I'll add this as well with all of the illegal aliens streaming across the southern border even the fbi (if you can believe anything they report) are warning of Islamic terrorists attacks.

"We are not currently tracking an imminent, credible threat from a foreign terrorist organization, a structured attack here or something like that, but it is something that we think heightened vigilance is warranted for," he said. (Wray)

One more thing, when America falls Canada will crash as well and your black face wearing, nazi sympathizer, coward leader will do absolutely nothing to stop it......

Trudeau wore face makeup (dressed as an Arab, as a matter of fact) over 20 years ago to a costume party. He apologised for it. Since it came to the worlds attention, Trudeau has never transgressed and worn black face again.

Trump took out a full page ad in a major US Newspaper calling for the death penalty for 5 black men who were later found out to be innocent. That was in the 1970's and to this date he has not offered up an apology.

Trump said this yesterday: "immigrants from South America, Africa and Asia are poisoning the blood of the country", I doubt he'll be apologising for using Nazi style language.

the thing is that jackass really believes he has a place at the table

I agree, Trump really should cease his quest for the Presidency. The last thing his ego needs now is the other 6 G7 leaders laughing behind his back at him, while "hot miked"

Fuzzy, I'm not being snarky..... just think about it...

What I thought about was; how hypocritical and racist you were in this post. Thanks for living up to my expectations of you!!

 

[Lazaran]

I don't think you do, otherwise, why did you post this:

or this?

or this?



"We are not currently tracking an imminent, credible threat from a foreign terrorist organization, a structured attack here or something like that, but it is something that we think heightened vigilance is warranted for," he said. (Wray)

Trudeau wore face makeup (dressed as an Arab, as a matter of fact) over 20 years ago to a costume party. He apologised for it. Since it came to the worlds attention, Trudeau has never transgressed and worn black face again.

Trump took out a full page ad in a major US Newspaper calling for the death penalty for 5 black men who were later found out to be innocent. That was in the 1970's and to this date he has not offered up an apology.

Trump said this yesterday: "immigrants from South America, Africa and Asia are poisoning the blood of the country", I doubt he'll be apologising for using Nazi style language.

I agree, Trump really should cease his quest for the Presidency. The last thing his ego needs now is the other 6 G7 leaders laughing behind his back at him, while "hot miked"

What I thought about was; how hypocritical and racist you were in this post. Thanks for living up to my expectations of you!!

"Buffy” just got buffed.



"Buffy"

 

[RobDownSouth]

Fuzzy, I know the US is at the highest oil production at the present, however a loss of production in Saudi Arabia will affect the markets, I'll add this as well with all of the illegal aliens streaming across the southern border even the fbi (if you can believe anything they report) are warning of Islamic terrorists attacks. All this will take is a Muslim terrorist with a smuggled RPG-7 rocket propelled grenade to just ruin your day by striking a tank battery, refinery infrastructure, or a shipping facility..... it's only a matter of time..... you need to understand we are at ww3
One more thing, when America falls Canada will crash as well and your black face wearing, nazi sympathizer, coward leader will do absolutely nothing to stop it...... the thing is that jackass really believes he has a place at the table
Fuzzy, I'm not being snarky..... just think about it...

when they randomly pivot a discussion to "all of illegal aliens streaming across the southern border" you have won.

Fuzz 1, Buff 0

 

[butters]

guess ivanka and jared see trump's poll-popularity amongst magats as appealing

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=5643c563c4ae4969b72de47951df09c0&ei=121