Colorado Will Not Be Allowed To Deny Trump Access To Their Presidential Ballot

Perhaps the Supreme Court can assist in interpreting a novel wording with few actual cases and none as unique as an ex-president attempting to overthrow the government.

Let’s wait and see how Trump gets judged – by his peers – and accept the outcome like individuals who believe in a fair justice system.
The SCOTUS has already weighed in on the subject. If you had relied on a little personal scholarship instead of CNN or MSNBC you might have already discovered that the language in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment didn't contemplate the President of the United States as an "officer of the United States."

The SCOTUS has determined the following in regard to who is defined as an "officer of the United States:"

"What is necessary to constitute a person an officer of the United States in any of the various branches of its service has been very fully considered by this Court in United States v. Germaine, 99 U. S. 508. In that case, it was distinctly pointed out that under the Constitution of the United States, all its officers were appointed by the President, by and with the consent of the Senate, or by a court of law or the head of a department, and the heads of the departments were defined in that opinion to be what are now called the members of the cabinet. Unless a person in the service of the government, therefore, holds his place by virtue of an "appointment" by the President or of one of the courts of justice or heads of departments authorized by law to make such an appointment, he is not, strictly speaking, an officer of the United States."

United States v. Mouat, 124 U.S. 303 (1888)


However, Section 3 does not explicitly mention the President or the Vice President, nor does it specify the process or criteria for determining whether someone has engaged in insurrection or rebellion. Therefore, one could argue that section 3 is not applicable to the President, or that it requires a judicial determination or a congressional vote to invoke it.

One could also argue that section 3 was intended to apply only to those who participated in the Civil War, and not to any future cases of alleged insurrection or rebellion. Such an argument could be based on the historical context and purpose of the 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of the newly freed slaves and to prevent the former Confederate states from rejoining the Union without complying with certain conditions. Section 3 was designed to prevent the former Confederate officials from regaining political power and undermining the Reconstruction efforts of the established government. Therefore, one could claim that section 3 is outdated and irrelevant to the modern context of the presidency. There are a lot of holes in the legal arguments being advanced by insanely radical Democrats against Donald Trump.
 
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So they can challeng it in court or they can't?

Has the court thrown the case out?
There's a reason why these cases are filed in blue states in front of radical leftist judges. Democrats know they will emote and rule according to what they think the law ought to say instead of what it actually says.
 
There's a reason why these cases are filed in blue states in front of radical leftist judges. Democrats know they will emote and rule according to what they think the law ought to say instead of what it actually says.
So they can file them or they can't?
 
It was an insurrection attempt. If politicians on Capitol Hill had gotten harmed that day, before the 2020 election results had gotten certified, Trump could have called a "national emergency" and stayed in power until new elections were called further down the line.
It was a demonstration/riot. Not an "insurrection" which in every other case in history required the force of arms. It's an unrealistic and inaccurate description of what happened only to serve a political purpose and its supporting narrative. Start looking at those 44,000 hours of video that was just released and the Democrats tried to keep from the public.
 
So they can file them or they can't?
It's amazing that, considering the 60+ lawsuits that Trump and his campaign filed fighting the results of the 2020 election, of which he and his minions lost all but one, that every single one of those judges happen to be a radical liberal Democrat. What are the odds?
 
Frivolous cases are filed every day. They run their courses and wind up in the shit can.
Kind of like the 60 plus cases Trump filed trying to overturn the 2020 election results. All but one thrown out as frivolous.
 
Which is NOT what you said.

Face it, you've prejudged him and don't care what the evidence at trial would be. You've already accepted the prosecutions case and discarded the defense and have willfully done so despite being required to weigh ALL the evidence.

Basically, you're one of the assholes who have fucked up the world because you think you're special and can do whatever the hell you want.
Language HisArpy, language, and temper control, please on the forum.

Are you reserving judgment then until he is convicted? Would you accept his defeat? Honestly, could you give me your acceptance? I'll also agree to reserve judgment until then.

Could you show me Trump's counter-evidence to what is already publicly viewed and disclosed?

He keeps promising to reveal all - but nothing is forthcoming. Present that, and I am willing to change my mind on the Federal charges, even the State of Georgia charges. But the current situation looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and behaves like a waddling duck out of water – so I'm going to continue to call it a fucked duck. I have that latitude. It's called an informed opinion based on known facts. I do not conjure up fabrications out of thin air like Trump or Rudy. I'm not on his jury of peers, so I will not see the 'trial evidence' they will view. My opinion is formed from the news [you say it is biased - I saw it unedited in real-time, so that's spacious conjecture on your part] and from listening to Trump's speeches, also in his own words. What I have concluded is this is a vile, evil individual unworthy of your admiration or my vote.

Your last paragraph is childishness - rude - and will not garner you any sympathy from my corner of the world.
 
Language HisArpy, language, and temper control, please on the forum.

*snip* tl;dr;stupid as all fuck


Your last paragraph is childishness - rude - and will not garner you any sympathy from my corner of the world.


Poor baby. Somebody hurt your widdle feelers...
 
Poor baby. Somebody hurt your widdle feelers...
:ROFLMAO: My 'widdle feelers' stopped getting hurt after I returned from Vietnam. I could give a rat's ass about you or your Trumpish-like belittling remarks. Mark Twain probably said it best, "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
 
Mallord talks out of both sides of his mouth. He pretends to walk an unbiased path all the while bashing the crap of Trump.

His zealous attempt to convict Trump for insurrection without a trial is laughable on its face.

I find it ironic that he‘s quick to apply his reasoning that just because the DOJ doesn’t charge Trump for insurrection does not inherently negate the existence of evidence.

Dmallord writes this.;
“The assertion that the Department of Justice's decision not to charge Trump with insurrection equates to a lack of evidence is an oversimplification. Various factors, including legal considerations, political dynamics, and prosecutorial discretion, can influence DOJ decisions. The absence of charges does not inherently negate the existence of evidence; it raises questions about the interpretation and application of the law in a complex political context. That is why the judicial system is a carefully constructed balancing act: a judge, a prosecutor, a defense system, and a jury of one’s peers. Those twelve peers will deliberate, weigh the legal nuances, and draw their conclusions, colored as they may be, and we shall accept their outcome. That is the premise of our system – anything else leading us to chaos.”

Funny how the left refuses to apply the same standards of evidence when it implicates the Biden crime family. There is compelling evidence for the DOJ to initiate a grand jury panel for all the Biden’s but they don’t. What Dmallord doesn’t pontificate about is the fact that this present day DOJ is an extension of his party and can pick and choose who wins and who loses. Opposite circumstances exist, with Trump there are no provable statutory violations but with the Bidens the evidence is compelling but the DOJ runs a protective umbrella.

The DOJ ( the justice system in general) wins back the confidence of the people when they apply the law equally and provide equal protections under the law.
Learn how to fucking use the "quote" function....you fucking dunce, it's not that hard, even BB has mastered it!
 
:ROFLMAO: My 'widdle feelers' stopped getting hurt after I returned from Vietnam. I could give a rat's ass about you or your Trumpish-like belittling remarks. Mark Twain probably said it best, "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Poor baby. Maybe you shoulda stayed in country. That way you wouldn't have to worry about getting your feelers hurt on a nasty porn website you probably don't want anyone to know about.
 
PLease send me your address you have won the commnist/marxist award for this month. You have won a ticket one way to North Korea
Self address stamped envelope?

Doubt you have the money to afford a trip abroad but thanks for the offer.
 
So what if it did. Gore could have just declared himself the winner.
The 2000 election was so chaotic. Gore did a load of mistakes himself. He chose Lieberman as his running mate, was either too smug or too conciliatory when debating with Bush, alienated West Virginia on coal. West Virginia had been Democratic all but 3 times in presidential elections from 1932-1996 (those exceptions being 1956, 1972 and 1984), a complete contrast to the Trump era where West Virginia is in the top two Republican states in the nation alongside Wyoming. Gore also lost New Hampshire

If Gore had won West Virginia, it would have been enough to win the election. If Gore had won New Hampshire, it would have been enough to win the election. If he had won his home state of Tennessee, it would have been enough to win the election. The last presidential candidate of the big two parties not to win his home state was the Democrat George McGovern of South Dakota in 1972. Gore also won New Mexico by the very narrow margin of 366 votes out of nearly 600,000 votes cast in the state. And then of course, Florida, which everyone knows about, which Bush won by 537 votes officially, but with apparently all sorts of errors and likely fraud with the Brooks Brothers riot forcing the recount to stop.

Others also like to blame Ralph Nader, as if Al Gore was entitled to the votes of Nader voters. In Florida, as Gore lost by 537 votes and Nader got 97,488 official votes in Florida, that angered a lot of Democrats. But again, why did Gore lose West Virginia, New Hampshire and Tennessee? Even New Hampshire's 4 electoral votes alone would have been enough to take Gore over the finish line, and for Florida not to matter.
 
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It's amazing that, considering the 60+ lawsuits that Trump and his campaign filed fighting the results of the 2020 election, of which he and his minions lost all but one, that every single one of those judges happen to be a radical liberal Democrat. What are the odds?
What are the odds? One in a googleplex. Which is exactly why THIS WAS NOT THE CASE!

Ruling against Trump does not automatically make one a "Liberal Democrat." You need to stop thinking of it that way.

They ruled against Trump BECAUSE...HE...BROKE...THE...LAW.

It's really that simple. GAAAH!!! Why is this so hard to understand? Is your ideal leader someone who is corrupt and powerful enough that checks and balances, and the Constitution, and law and order shoudln't apply to them? Go move to North Korea then.

Those judges were pro-law and order and pro-Constitution and pro-America. Not partisan hacks.
Or, are the justices that convicted the Unabomber all "Far right radical Republicans?" According to you, probably so.

Arguing with Hisarpy/Icanhelp alt#17 (Geez, you know what? You are as bad as fucking Busybody with your imaginary sock-puppet friends!) is a soul-draining experience. Like talking to an autistic toddler. Just get a new fucking hobby already.
 
What are the odds? One in a googleplex. Which is exactly why THIS WAS NOT THE CASE!

Ruling against Trump does not automatically make one a "Liberal Democrat." You need to stop thinking of it that way.

They ruled against Trump BECAUSE...HE...BROKE...THE...LAW.

It's really that simple. GAAAH!!! Why is this so hard to understand? Is your ideal leader someone who is corrupt and powerful enough that checks and balances, and the Constitution, and law and order shoudln't apply to them? Go move to North Korea then.

Those judges were pro-law and order and pro-Constitution and pro-America. Not partisan hacks.
Or, are the justices that convicted the Unabomber all "Far right radical Republicans?" According to you, probably so.

Arguing with Hisarpy/Icanhelp alt#17 (Geez, you know what? You are as bad as fucking Busybody with your imaginary sock-puppet friends!) is a soul-draining experience. Like talking to an autistic toddler. Just get a new fucking hobby already.
Umm... You REALLY missed the sarcasm in my post, didn't you? Read some of my other posts if you're confused about which side I'm on...
 
You as always are incorrect. This is from the leftwing Brookings Institution, 28 court decisions went in Trump's favor:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/...e-2020-election-a-failure-but-not-a-wipe-out/
I stand corrected. This guy took an unnecessarily deep dive into every single case. There were, indeed, a smattering of lower level court decisions that went Trump's way. After appeals all the way up to the Supreme Court, Trump lost all but one suit, in which, I believe, Republican poll watchers were allowed to move a few feet closer to the ballot-counting stations.

So go enjoy your "winning", tard.
 
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