Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Your only mode is rambling nonsense.

you're the pettiest dog on here bro. it's hilarious. your like a jellyfish... such an expert on the latest false flag, surprised you don't get hired by the networks... enjoy your day...

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

Yes, your naivety is already demonstrated

Israel should be moved to europe, that's who made it... Bibi is polish. Send him home.

 

[ll74]

you're the pettiest dog on here bro. it's hilarious. your like a jellyfish... such an expert on the latest false flag, surprised you don't get hired by the networks... enjoy your day...

You just posted about Iraq and CNN in a thread about the current Israel/Hamas conflict. But sure....it's about me

 

[Fuzzy1975]

if it's corporate, vanguard blackrock owned, it's fulfilling long planned agendas. sad but true. you seen the fake vid compilations of CNN making shit up? it's wild. i remember the first one, the two idiot reporters supposedly in a hotel compound in riyadh, fake palm trees, and all of a sudden the siren goes off for a scud attack and one throws on a army surplus store gas mask and the other a ridiculous military helmet. ends up they were filming in san fernando. but i'm sure they don't do that no more... cheers bro!~

lol, you're fucking delusional. Or else you can back up these claims? But of course youtube (charles jaco) has all the answers for a weakminded person, such as yourself. Lets just forget CNN was not alone as reporters from many other media companies were there, and stayed at, and broadcast from the same hotel. So for one to believe this, then one must also believe that every news organisation involved in "live reporting from --- " must also be involved. Since if they were there, and Charles Jaco wasn't,then that would have been a hell of a scoop to report....


Now I do know CNN, to name one has made errors of reporting, but they have also admitted this, see this NYT article as point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

lol, you're fucking delusional. Or else you can back up these claims? But of course youtube (charles jaco) has all the answers for a weakminded person, such as yourself. Lets just forget CNN was not alone as reporters from many other media companies were there, and stayed at, and broadcast from the same hotel. So for one to believe this, then one must also believe that every news organisation involved in "live reporting from --- " must also be involved. Since if they were there, and Charles Jaco wasn't,then that would have been a hell of a scoop to report....


Now I do know CNN, to name one has made errors of reporting, but they have also admitted this, see this NYT article as point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/business/media/cnn-correction-donald-trump-jr.html

bro! watch the video!! it's fake as hell. they got footage of the guy laughing afterwards in studio. grow up man. stick to your delusions! if you think corporate news, including the joke NYT, is trustworthy, wow, i don't know what to say! cheers man!!!!!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

bro! watch the video!! it's fake as hell. they got footage of the guy laughing afterwards in studio. grow up man. stick to your delusions! if you think corporate news, including the joke NYT, is trustworthy, wow, i don't know what to say! cheers man!!!!!!

Sorry, but you're a fucking idiot if you believe a video, over people who were there who say Charles was also there .But you do you,it's very entertaining. I'm thinking you think the world is flat, and the moon landing was faked too....

 

[jomar]

They can be attrited to a point of ineffectiveness that would be more manageable to police.

Obama's ass-kissing efforts, continued by Biden, have funded Iran's nuclear aspirations and moved them very close to a nuclear weapon.

Nice revisionist history there ignoring the fact that your boy pulled out of JCPOA which wasn’t perfect but handcuffed them for almost three decades.

A "theoretical fact" you say?

A corollary to “alternative facts”

 

[icanhelp1]

bro! watch the video!! it's fake as hell. they got footage of the guy laughing afterwards in studio. grow up man. stick to your delusions! if you think corporate news, including the joke NYT, is trustworthy, wow, i don't know what to say! cheers man!!!!!!

NYTs covered up the holocaust. They’ve indulged in their fair share of yellow journalism.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Agree with RightGuide that Hamas might not be extinguished as an idea but that it - and the infrastructure it depends on, human, financial and physical infrastructure - can be eradicated as a significant force.

Assuming this could be military achieved then, once done, the Israelis have to clear off - it’s not their land after all - and this is only really feasible if the likes of the Jordanians or Qataris are willing to keep order as designated ”protectors” for the want of a better word.

Nothing else is going to work, and before you got there Iran would have to be given either an incentive or a warning to stay the fuck out……

 

[Chobham]

Agree with RightGuide that Hamas might not be extinguished as an idea but that it - and the infrastructure it depends on, human, financial and physical infrastructure - can be eradicated as a significant force.

Assuming this could be military achieved then, once done, the Israelis have to clear off - it’s not their land after all - and this is only really feasible if the likes of the Jordanians or Qataris are willing to keep order as designated ”protectors” for the want of a better word.

Nothing else is going to work, and before you got there Iran would have to be given either an incentive or a warning to stay the fuck out……

Well then, who does it belong to? (Might want to do some research before you answer.)

 

[ShandyLeer]

Well then, who does it belong to? (Might want to do some research before you answer.)

Dont tell me…..it’s Israel’s is it ?

 

[Chobham]

Dont tell me…..it’s Israel’s is it ?

No, it was Egypt's. Israel occupied it after the 6 day war. In 2006 Israel tried to give it back to Egypt and Egypt said, "We don't want it." Israel didn't want it either and that's where it stood until Oct. 7th.

 

[ShandyLeer]

No, it was Egypt's. Israel occupied it after the 6 day war. In 2006 Israel tried to give it back to Egypt and Egypt said, "We don't want it." Israel didn't want it either and that's where it stood until Oct. 7th.

And after all that pointless diversion we’re back to “Gaza is recognised as a home for Palestinians”. Like the West Bank. Which was Jordan’s until the same war.

Regardless of ownership disputes there is no realistic scenario where this ceases to be the case, and if Egypt could be persuaded to return to running the place then so be it,

The rest is semantics tbh. It would be politically stupid for Israel to look at long term occupation of Gaza,post this op

 

[CenSore]

Israel should be moved to europe, that's who made it... Bibi is polish. Send him home.

Send blacks to Africa

Send Muslims to Muslim cuntries

 

[CenSore]

The next time you pretend to give a shit about dead journalists

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722557470084567301

 

[zipman]

Top leaders of Hamas admitted the group's desire to engage in a permanent war in Israel to prop up the Palestinian cause while showing no interest in governing the Gaza Strip or improving the lives of its 2 million residents, the majority of whom live in dire poverty, according to media reports.

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-leaders-admit-no-interest-014432659.html

 

[CenSore]

Top leaders of Hamas admitted the group's desire to engage in a permanent war in Israel to prop up the Palestinian cause while showing no interest in governing the Gaza Strip or improving the lives of its 2 million residents, the majority of whom live in dire poverty, according to media reports.

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-leaders-admit-no-interest-014432659.html

you wanted them to have their own airport

your words today are empty

 

[ll74]

you wanted them to have their own airport

your words today are empty

You keep repeating that over and over again. Just stop.

 

[Sean Renaud]

the whole dem repub debacle is exactly where they want us, divided. they run both wings of the retarded bird. people keep falling for it. what a shame. cheers.

They are doing a terrible job if that was their plan. Cus the issue is that the Republicans and Democrats are not the same. The issue is that we have too many people pulling this both sides do it nonsense. There are things both sides do to varying degrees. I would be remiss to claim that the Left spends much energy even shaming Israel for its actions in general and these last few weeks in particular. Even the GOAT that is Bernie can't bring himself to say anything harsher than "What's going on is horrible and I am asking you. . .once again. . .to donate to my funds so I can run in 2032. If elected I will get you the kind of health care I have where you will scream that 100 is the new 30!" So yeah both sides are kinda war hungry though clearly one side more than the other.

Last year right about this time the rail workers were on strike for 7 sick days a fucking year. Did Biden come out and champion those guys or did he side with corporations? Big business. That's not to knock him entirely, at least he went out for the UAW. At least AOC spoke out for Starbucks. But I want the Squad and Biden on EVERY union. The Writer's strike (now over), the Actors Strike (maybe over?), the Las Vegas hospitality strike. Chris Smalls, the leader of the Amazon Union, should be a household name. He should be running for office and Libs should be putting him on tv like they can't tell him apart Taylor Swift.

So yes both of them are pro-war and pro-big business.

However lets talk about the issues. The Right wants to restrict abortion, given a half chance they have signaled they will attack the LGBT community. I've pointed out in a separate thread that when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked the Right made jokes about how he might be gay or that it was true that walls don't work cus if they did he's be fine. When Mitch suffered a glitch (yeah I know that's a bit cold) Biden called his colleague to make sure he was okay. We are not the fucking same.

you wanted them to have their own airport

your words today are empty

I want them to have an airport as well. They need to have the ability to at least get supplies if nothing else and engage in trade without Israel having dominance over what they ship in or out.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

They are doing a terrible job if that was their plan. Cus the issue is that the Republicans and Democrats are not the same. The issue is that we have too many people pulling this both sides do it nonsense. There are things both sides do to varying degrees. I would be remiss to claim that the Left spends much energy even shaming Israel for its actions in general and these last few weeks in particular. Even the GOAT that is Bernie can't bring himself to say anything harsher than "What's going on is horrible and I am asking you. . .once again. . .to donate to my funds so I can run in 2032. If elected I will get you the kind of health care I have where you will scream that 100 is the new 30!" So yeah both sides are kinda war hungry though clearly one side more than the other.

Last year right about this time the rail workers were on strike for 7 sick days a fucking year. Did Biden come out and champion those guys or did he side with corporations? Big business. That's not to knock him entirely, at least he went out for the UAW. At least AOC spoke out for Starbucks. But I want the Squad and Biden on EVERY union. The Writer's strike (now over), the Actors Strike (maybe over?), the Las Vegas hospitality strike. Chris Smalls, the leader of the Amazon Union, should be a household name. He should be running for office and Libs should be putting him on tv like they can't tell him apart Taylor Swift.

So yes both of them are pro-war and pro-big business.

However lets talk about the issues. The Right wants to restrict abortion, given a half chance they have signaled they will attack the LGBT community. I've pointed out in a separate thread that when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked the Right made jokes about how he might be gay or that it was true that walls don't work cus if they did he's be fine. When Mitch suffered a glitch (yeah I know that's a bit cold) Biden called his colleague to make sure he was okay. We are not the fucking same.


I want them to have an airport as well. They need to have the ability to at least get supplies if nothing else and engage in trade without Israel having dominance over what they ship in or out.

They both support endless war and constant division. In my view they are all just frauds. Cheers

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hamas wants an endless war, as in they want Israel gone. ITs not gonna happen but still. I don't believe Israel or Palestine want an endless war.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hamas wants an endless war, as in they want Israel gone. ITs not gonna happen but still. I don't believe Israel or Palestine want an endless war.

I don't believe Hamas wants endless war, I think they'd settle for self-rule. Unfortunately for them, their geography makes them a prime proxy playground for various middle east groups to wage wars and settle grudges, without soiling their own soil with the blood of innocent.

I also don't believe that Israel wants endless war either. The blood of every Israeli is sacred. Having said that, Israel as a country seems dedicated to making life in Gaza as miserable as possible for all residents. Their blockade is slowly but steadily eroding Gaza. When Israel pushes too much, or shows weakness (like the did when they decamped their IDF forces from Gaza to the Western Bank to fulfill Bibi's campaign promises), Hamas exploits perceived weakness, exacting "revenge" upon their oppressors and pilfering foods and building materiel that fetch a fortune on the Gaza black market.

And now the Israeli Prime Minister has committed Israel ground forces to an endless ground campaign without a clear exit strategy...just like Bush circa 2004. The general populace in Israel is clearly not happy about this but mostly doesn't speak up and won't until the body bags start coming home.

The world (with the exception of Iran) really doesn't want another middle east morass.

 

[Lazaran]

I don't believe Hamas wants endless war, I think they'd settle for self-rule. Unfortunately for them, their geography makes them a prime proxy playground for various middle east groups to wage wars and settle grudges, without soiling their own soil with the blood of innocent.

The "civilian" members of Hamas living in Gaza may not want “endless war”, but the filthy rich leaders of Hamas living abroad likely do. Of course, the "civilian" members of Hamas living in Gaza probably have it far better than the average Gazan, and may be perfectly fine with the status quo of endless war. - Mercs often enjoy the "lifestyle" imho.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Sean Renaud]

The "civilian" members of Hamas living in Gaza may not want “endless war”, but the filthy rich leaders of Hamas living abroad likely do. Of course, the "civilian" members of Hamas living in Gaza probably have it far better than the average Gazan, and may be perfectly fine with the status quo of endless war. - Mercs often enjoy the "lifestyle" imho.

JFC

SAD!!!

The leaders have admitted they have little interest in governing. They did this to draw attention and hope the Arab world will side with them against Israel. Which is unlikely but I understand a desperation gambit. However the Palestinians as a whole do not support Hamas or think they are a good representative of them.

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...31&cvid=1b4635ecbebc4f7fbc7f3c212dd280a1&ei=2

thanks to the tireless work of the Biden administration, a daily 4-hour cease fire has been brokered to allow fleeing civilians in Gaza a 'safe space' in which to move without getting bombed, to be announced 3 hours before each pause; this was agreed upon during a phone call between President Biden and Netanyahu on Monday, to commence today. President Biden says he asked for 3+ days pause but that wasn't somewhere Netanyahu was prepared to go.

A second 'safe' corridor has also been agreed upon to aid the movement of civilians.


of course it's not enough, but it's something and can be worked on.