Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[icanhelp1]

Corroborating facts? Only one side has to corroborate facts. Dead babies requires corroboration. Bombing a hospital which results in mass casualties, well, just take their word, cancel meetings and burn down embassies because Israel is bad. Ya can’t reason with nut bags.

 

[zipman]

It is sad that some actually believe this. The sheer magnitude of the naive point is dangerous.

It was a factually and statistically correct statement.

Of course you or A_J are more than free to post actual statistics to refute it.

 

[ll74]

I saw that report. Until a neutral forensic team does an actual investigation the world will blame Israel for anything and everything. Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan officials cancelled their meetings without knowing the facts.

I initially did as well. Part of it is that I do believe Israel is the adult in the room regarding their tactical fighting. They won't use civilians for their own needs.

So I'll be more cautious in my understanding. People deserve peace.

 

[ll74]

Corroborating facts? Only one side has to corroborate facts. Dead babies requires corroboration. Bombing a hospital which results in mass casualties, well, just take their word, cancel meetings and burn down embassies because Israel is bad. Ya can’t reason with nut bags.

Yes, they are held to a higher standard because they arent terrorists.

Corroborating facts is for everyone, especially during a time of war with so much information coming out from untrusted and non credible sources

 

[snailspace]

It is sad that some actually believe this. The sheer magnitude of the naive point is dangerous.

Agreed, naive st best, dangerous at worst. We will see the fruits of this naivete, sadly.

 

[ll74]

Agreed, naive st best, dangerous at worst. We will see the fruits of this naivete, sadly.

Oh neat....more fear mongering.

 

[schism666]

If 45 went to a war zone it would be in secret.

yes, we all know how much 45 hates photo ops. you might have just said the dumbest thing ever.

 

[ll74]

yes, we all know how much 45 hates photo ops. you might have just said the dumbest thing ever.

I expect a photo op with an upside down quran

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Perform outrage? Address the issue in an informed, objective way? Well yeah, that would be nice.

At best I was kind of hoping you could at least acknowledge that Jewish lives matter. However it's not right or me to ask you to say anything that you clearly don't believe.

But hey, keep posting your little videos. I'm sure at least Dribble is enjoying them.

Jewish lives matter.

Palestinian lives matter.

Genocide as a response to terrorism is never an answer and will not bring peace nor will it bring justice to those killed by Hamas.

The Jewish diaspora worldwide has been protesting to that effect, along with other communities, quite loudly. I stand with those voices and prefer to amplify them.

Because the "turn Gaza into a parking lot" mindset is neither informed or objective. And I don't have to dance to that tune in order to say that Jewish lives matter, but those that do have already shown that Palestinian lives never did.

Here's another Jewish voice over the matter that I stand with. No obligation to read it if you don't want to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714174768231198811

 

[ll74]

Jewish lives matter.

Palestinian lives matter.

Genocide as a response to terrorism is never an answer and will not bring peace nor will it bring justice to those killed by Hamas.

The Jewish diaspora worldwide has been protesting to that effect, along with other communities, quite loudly. I stand with those voices and prefer to amplify them.

Because the "turn Gaza into a parking lot" mindset is neither informed or objective. And I don't have to dance to that tune in order to say that Jewish lives matter, but those that do have already shown that Palestinian lives never did.

Here's another Jewish voice over the matter that I stand with. No obligation to read it if you don't want to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714174768231198811

Just posted the Ezra Klein podcast on this topic in my pod thread. Talks about a similar view.

 

[schism666]

I expect a photo op with an upside down quran

 

[schism666]

ilana glazer rocks.

 

[ll74]

"This is what happens from the relentless escalation that occurs when the heart hardens"

"How do the people who want peace become strong enough to matter?"

Sharing here, because the whole thing is great and introspective on the topic
https://pca.st/episode/4d69dc55-2b85-4f78-a835-fb6c0a107248 - Ezra Klein Show

 

[Rotadom]

It is sad that some actually believe this. The sheer magnitude of the naive point is dangerous.

Denying women healthcare, jeopardizing the lives of young girls raped by their fathers, banning books, and protecting the church is dangerous as fuck.

 

[Rotadom]

yes, we all know how much 45 hates photo ops. you might have just said the dumbest thing ever.

Crazies like him cannot be taken seriously and deserve to be mocked accordingly.

 

[Bray123]

It is sad that some actually believe this. The sheer magnitude of the naive point is dangerous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Deadliest_attacks

How many of these attacks (ten deaths or more, excluding perpetrator) were Islamic in justification?
How many were right-wing 'Christian'?

 

[Lazaran]

Jewish lives matter.

Palestinian lives matter.

Genocide as a response to terrorism is never an answer and will not bring peace nor will it bring justice to those killed by Hamas.

The Jewish diaspora worldwide has been protesting to that effect, along with other communities, quite loudly. I stand with those voices and prefer to amplify them.

Because the "turn Gaza into a parking lot" mindset is neither informed or objective. And I don't have to dance to that tune in order to say that Jewish lives matter, but those that do have already shown that Palestinian lives never did.

Here's another Jewish voice over the matter that I stand with. No obligation to read it if you don't want to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714174768231198811

Please present Palestinians / Arabs (American or otherwise) speaking out against Hamas (especially condemning the Hamas animal’s recent heinous, murderous, kidnapping jaunt) and defending Israel’s right to exist.

I’ll wait…

Meanwhile…:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ons-do-not-represent-palestinians-2023-10-15/

From the article:

“Oct 15 (Reuters) - The Palestinian Authority's official news agency published comments on Sunday by President Mahmoud Abbas that criticized Hamas over its actions but later removed reference to the militant group without providing an explanation.”

Also, meanwhile:

Social media quickly spread a report about an "Israeli air strike" on a hospital in Gaza that is looking more and more like "friendly" fire.

That ^ irresponsible "reporting" (propaganda) had the destructive effect of derailing meetings between key players in the region and President Biden which could have led to some negotiated easing of hostilities.

Well played - as in- Hamas played the usual useful idiots well.

Terrorists are constantly trying to manufacture outrage by fabricating insults and injuries worthy of being a flashpoint for mass rage and uprisings.

See also:

The J6 terrorist’s manufacturing of outrage by fabricating the stolen election LIE that sparked mass rage and an uprising that almost destroyed / still might destroy America.

Also meanwhile:

ACTUAL terrorism is minimized and rationalized away.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[ll74]

Please present Palestinians / Arabs (American or otherwise) speaking out against Hamas (especially condemning the Hamas animal’s recent heinous, murderous, kidnapping jaunt) and defending Israel’s right to exist.

I’ll wait…

Meanwhile…:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ons-do-not-represent-palestinians-2023-10-15/

From the article:

“Oct 15 (Reuters) - The Palestinian Authority's official news agency published comments on Sunday by President Mahmoud Abbas that criticized Hamas over its actions but later removed reference to the militant group without providing an explanation.”

Also, meanwhile:

Social media quickly spread a report about an "Israeli air strike" on a hospital in Gaza that is looking more and more like "friendly" fire.

That ^ irresponsible "reporting" (propaganda) had the destructive effect of derailing meetings between key players in the region and President Biden which could have led to some negotiated easing of hostilities.

Well played - as in- Hamas played the usual useful idiots well.

Terrorists are constantly trying to manufacture outrage by fabricating insults and injuries worthy of being a flashpoint for mass rage and uprisings.

See also:

The J6 terrorist’s manufacturing of outrage by fabricating the stolen election LIE that sparked mass rage and an uprising that almost destroyed America.

Also meanwhile:

ACTUAL terrorism is minimized and rationalized away.

JFC

SAD!!!

https://www.businessinsider.com/ram...ight-hamas-while-under-israeli-attack-2023-10 -

Israel wants Palestinians to rise up against Hamas. One who did says that's now impossible.​

"Most of the people in Gaza do not support Hamas," Aman said, characterizing the 2006 election as a protest vote against corruption and the failure of the peace process.

 

[Lazaran]

 

[ll74]

So you weren't being sincere when you asked for Palestinians speaking out against Hamas.

Got it.

Can't wait to see what qualifiers.you add to move the goal posts.

 

[schism666]

Can't wait to see what qualifiers.you add

how exciting for you

 

[Dribble]

Evidence is not adding up. Allow a UN team in to investigate. This hospital had been attacked twice by the IDF...each time they called and warned of the attack. There was not a warning this time. But there also was no warning when the IDF used white phosphorus on another hospital.

What do we know? The damage eliminates many sources. Not everyone has weapons capable of this damage. It is known that the Islamic Jihad does...but only on the West Bank. Is it possible they were able to smuggle it into Gaza? Doubtful...but still possible. These missiles have guidance. They are not just used...due to their value. And they are not built on site.

The "audio" the IDF released does not prove anything. What will? Allow a team in and let them collect samples. See...western explosives...differ from Iranian...and we can analyze the residue and know within hours.

But Israel has refused UN requests. Why? I would want the World to know I am not a liar

 

[icanhelp1]

Denying women healthcare, jeopardizing the lives of young girls raped by their fathers, banning books, and protecting the church is dangerous as fuck.

I agree! Biden should’ve never have withdraw from Afghanistan!

 

[ll74]

I agree! Biden should’ve never have withdraw from Afghanistan!

The blame Biden thread is here -> https://forum.literotica.com/thread...er-israel-at-war.1596812/page-5#post-97666397

 

[Rotadom]

I agree! Biden should’ve never have withdraw from Afghanistan!

You're not too bright or clever.