Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[ll74]

If 45 went to a war zone it would be in secret. Now with that hospital bombing and critical players refusing to meet maybe Biden should rethink his plan. My original point is that he telegraphed his itinerary.

More of your BDS.....nothing 45 did was secret. He literally displayed his secrets in his bathroom to impress visitors.

An itenerary not the itinerary.

It would be easy to locate Americans in Israel, Israel is not Afghanistan.

What do you not get about a war zone?

 

[SubzeroGirl]

Not enough coverage on the Americans who were killed. I haven’t seen if they were tourists, aid workers or any information at all. Killing Americans used to matter to us, now it doesn’t seem as if America cares.

 

[icanhelp1]

More of your BDS.....nothing 45 did was secret. He literally displayed his secrets in his bathroom to impress visitors.

An itenerary not the itinerary.


What do you not get about a war zone?

Other countries managed to to get their people out and yet we can’t? Any excuse will.

 

[ll74]

Other countries managed to to get their people out and yet we can’t? Any excuse will.

They did? Says who?

 

[icanhelp1]

More of your BDS.....nothing 45 did was secret. He literally displayed his secrets in his bathroom to impress visitors.

An itenerary not the itinerary.


What do you not get about a war zone?

Itinerary is the correct word, you’re such a cheap shot artist.

 

[ll74]

Regarding the hospital explosion - Ive read a lot of threads from biased perspectives. This one looks to be corroborated by multiple sources.

Bottom line - it appears as though a rocket fired by Hamas was intercepted by another source (reported Israeli intercept missiles) which broke apart the missile into two pieces, one falling on the hospital. Not deliberate by either party.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714390254935851272

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not enough coverage on the Americans who were killed. I haven’t seen if they were tourists, aid workers or any information at all. Killing Americans used to matter to us, now it doesn’t seem as if America cares.

Honestly that's a pretty stupid thing to care about at the end of the day. I mean at this point there is so much death on all people involved. I'm sure Americans aren't the only non-Israelis in Israel at really any given time. Where is our concern for those people. This is one of the rare times when "All lives matter" wholly appropriate unfortunately.

Besides at least in my life time the only time we really care when Americans are killed is when it serves some kind of political purpose. Its the same for a lot of things mind you. There is a reason why you very, very rarely see human trafficking brought up as its own problem, not just part of the illegal immigration debate. We only care about fentanyl for the most part for the same reason. As if three guys with one of those water balloon sling shots could get the drugs across the border.

 

[SubzeroGirl]

Honestly that's a pretty stupid thing to care about at the end of the day. I mean at this point there is so much death on all people involved. I'm sure Americans aren't the only non-Israelis in Israel at really any given time. Where is our concern for those people. This is one of the rare times when "All lives matter" wholly appropriate unfortunately.

Besides at least in my life time the only time we really care when Americans are killed is when it serves some kind of political purpose. Its the same for a lot of things mind you. There is a reason why you very, very rarely see human trafficking brought up as its own problem, not just part of the illegal immigration debate. We only care about fentanyl for the most part for the same reason. As if three guys with one of those water balloon sling shots could get the drugs across the border.

Tell the families of the Americans that they are stupid for caring.

I don’t care about dead terrorists.

 

[icanhelp1]

Regarding the hospital explosion - Ive read a lot of threads from biased perspectives. This one looks to be corroborated by multiple sources.

Bottom line - it appears as though a rocket fired by Hamas was intercepted by another source (reported Israeli intercept missiles) which broke apart the missile into two pieces, one falling on the hospital. Not deliberate by either party.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714390254935851272

I saw that report. Until a neutral forensic team does an actual investigation the world will blame Israel for anything and everything. Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan officials cancelled their meetings without knowing the facts.

 

[MLG1016]

Nope, they don't want anything to do with them or their bullshit. Jordan already had it's set to with the Palestinians.

Black September.

Both the Egyptians and Jordanians know that they're nothing but trouble and want no part of them.

This Black September article was a good history lesson showing some reasons why surrounding Arab countries are reluctant to take in Palestinians.
Thanks

 

[CenSore]

listen

in their OWN WORDS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714545680562184434

they know

 

[Sean Renaud]

Tell the families of the Americans that they are stupid for caring.

I don’t care about dead terrorists.

Does that "tell it to the families" actually fly with adults where you live? I could easily say that about a lot of things. Tell "alcohol isn't illegal" to the families of DUI victims. While prohibition didn't work that's not point here. I could talk about the people dying to gun violence or easily preventable medical issues. Or the hundreds of thousands of dead Americans due to Covid largley because of the Maga crow. I could say that about women who die (disproportionately black) in child birth. The thing is at the end of the days the family has a personal problem.

The thing here is unless you're a "Kill em all let God sort em out" type there is no way to kill terrorists anywhere, but especially in Gaza without taking out more than double that of people who had the "wrong place wrong time" issue.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

President Biden! President Biden! There’s a war with Hamas and Hezbollah! We have to fight the terrorists! They might be here!

Round up twice the number of right-wing conservative domestic terrorists! Get the parents and the Christians!
We have an FBI! Use it! Pull people from the border to watch Des Moines!
Mobilize the National Guard to guard New Hampshire!
Iowa needs to know we are watching!
#NewHampshireMatters!

 

[JoePepsiCo]

When they hit here, and let’s face it, they won’t hit 99% of us, but when they hit somewhere like NYC, will you be out demanding a cease fire and negotiations?

And what will you say when it comes clear that the only way to deal with the cartels is to go into Mexico, or Columbia and eradicate the vipers’ nests (and when will we end the idiot war on drugs or fight it like we mean it, like we once wanted to do with terrorism until an election came up and it was making all of the “Right” people/politicians popular? Then the press and the intellectuals couldn’t have that because those were the “wrong” people. It wasn’t erudite, it wasn’t subtle, it wasn’t “civilized.” It’s time to recognize that our intellectuals, media and Hollywood are a a terrorist Fifth Column.)?

 

[Chobham]

Does that "tell it to the families" actually fly with adults where you live? I could easily say that about a lot of things. Tell "alcohol isn't illegal" to the families of DUI victims. While prohibition didn't work that's not point here. I could talk about the people dying to gun violence or easily preventable medical issues. Or the hundreds of thousands of dead Americans due to Covid largley because of the Maga crow. I could say that about women who die (disproportionately black) in child birth. The thing is at the end of the days the family has a personal problem.

The thing here is unless you're a "Kill em all let God sort em out" type there is no way to kill terrorists anywhere, but especially in Gaza without taking out more than double that of people who had the "wrong place wrong time" issue.

Don't ya just love it when ignorance is displayed as 'enlightened' general knowledge?

 

[Lazaran]

Can you provide a link for an old guy to look at that? Not just a 'There is a video ...?

I searched the name of the guy Hamas+ claims was a "spokesperson for Israel" who admitted it was an Israeli air strike, Journalist Hamanya Neftali.

The video was on his TweeX feed, along with him clarifying that he had fucked up by not clearly stating that his initial reporting was based on an uncorroborated Reuters report.

There are other videos out there.

I’m not comfortable citing any videos or cause of the blast as verified.

*nods*

 

[ChloeTzang]

Providing corroborating sources would benefit you here. I've seen multiple conflicting stories.

LOL. They're all over the Internet. Honestly, I really don't care that much to go digging. No benefit to me. Everyone here has their minds made up already and nothing any of us say will change anyone's opinions here, and it doesn't actually matter. We are all just little pawns and nothing that we say or do matters much in the greater scheme of things. Let's face it, this is a tiny little forum, and we will all just continue to babble and shoot our mouths off and opine and enjoy ourselves doing it without changing one single thing.

It's fun, but not worth the time to get serious about researching and posting links. We can all find this out for ourselves if we're interested enough to do so.

And now, have a wonderful day everyone.... and don't forget to check what we should all be outraged by today.....

 

[Wat_Tyler]

LOL. They're all over the Internet. Honestly, I really don't care that much to go digging. No benefit to me. Everyone here has their minds made up already and nothing any of us say will change anyone's opinions here, and it doesn't actually matter. We are all just little pawns and nothing that we say or do matters much in the greater scheme of things. Let's face it, this is a tiny little forum, and we will all just continue to babble and shoot our mouths off and opine and enjoy ourselves doing it without changing one single thing.

It's fun, but not worth the time to get serious about researching and posting links. We can all find this out for ourselves if we're interested enough to do so.

And now, have a wonderful day everyone.... and don't forget to check what we should all be outraged by today.....

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Nicely put. I shall smile as I await my Outrage Orders . . . .

 

[icanhelp1]

LOL. They're all over the Internet. Honestly, I really don't care that much to go digging. No benefit to me. Everyone here has their minds made up already and nothing any of us say will change anyone's opinions here, and it doesn't actually matter. We are all just little pawns and nothing that we say or do matters much in the greater scheme of things. Let's face it, this is a tiny little forum, and we will all just continue to babble and shoot our mouths off and opine and enjoy ourselves doing it without changing one single thing.

It's fun, but not worth the time to get serious about researching and posting links. We can all find this out for ourselves if we're interested enough to do so.

And now, have a wonderful day everyone.... and don't forget to check what we should all be outraged by today.....

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Now you’re catching on.

 

[icanhelp1]

Nicely put. I shall smile as I await my Outrage Orders . . . .

 

[Chobham]

"War is hell." - Wm. T Sherman

 

[zipman]

I've already used my words.

I am not required to perform outrage for your or anyone else's approval.

Perform outrage? Address the issue in an informed, objective way? Well yeah, that would be nice.

At best I was kind of hoping you could at least acknowledge that Jewish lives matter. However it's not right or me to ask you to say anything that you clearly don't believe.

But hey, keep posting your little videos. I'm sure at least Dribble is enjoying them.

 

[zipman]

President Biden! President Biden! There’s a war with Hamas and Hezbollah! We have to fight the terrorists! They might be here!

Round up twice the number of right-wing conservative domestic terrorists! Get the parents and the Christians!
We have an FBI! Use it! Pull people from the border to watch Des Moines!
Mobilize the National Guard to guard New Hampshire!
Iowa needs to know we are watching!
#NewHampshireMatters!

In this country, right wing extremists are a far bigger threat to Americans than Hamas or Hezbollah.

Facts matter, A_J.

 

[zipman]

For the record, this wouldn't be the first time Hamas (or Islamic jihad) rockets have hit their own territory and killed Palestinians.

 

[18xoxo]

In this country, right wing extremists are a far bigger threat to Americans than Hamas or Hezbollah.

Facts matter, A_J.

It is sad that some actually believe this. The sheer magnitude of the naive point is dangerous.