Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[RobDownSouth]

…..and? What land are you currently on?

Murica wasn't a signatory to the Geneva Conventions in 1781, choad.

 

[Dribble]

Benny wants to make more enemies.

Netanyahu Promises a Response Hamas Will Remember 'for Decades to Come'​

As Israel reacts to the Hamas attacks, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the militant group made "a mistake of historic proportions"

This isn't about Hamas. That is an excuse to wipe a race off the planet

 

[Sean Renaud]

They declared war on Hamas. That's what happens when you attack a country like that.

Like anybody believes for a split second they are gonna even attempt to parse Hamas from everybody else. Its not clear if they could if they wanted they are just gonna.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Normally I don't stick my nose in politics, since politics to me is like an asshole. Usually displaying it in public is going to cause controversy and a lot of offense. It's a shitshow. My thoughts on this shit though, is I think the people who suffer the worst are the Palestinians, and then the Isreali citizens. HAMAS has no interest in peace, HAMAS just wants blood even at the expense of their own people. I heard a quote from them that pretty much rings true to their philosophy: They've preached something along the lines they "love death more than Israel loves life."

Whatever people can say about Israel/Palestine, I don't anyone who genuinely cares about the Palestinian people can support HAMAS in good conscience. They use their citizens as partisans and shields, and Gaza gets aid, a lot of aid despite what people say about Israel or other countries leaving Palestine destitute with blockades, etc. Where does that aid go? To give the Palestinian civilians finance and access to better education and health conditions? No, to weaponry, attempts to kill, and to the corrupt leaders of HAMAS and other groups there. I think there are well over a thousand millionaires in Gaza, despite the fact that there's so much poverty there, the rich are really rich and the poor are poor as fuck. How does that happen? HAMAS declared war on FATAH and other groups in Palestine, killing and suppressing rival groups while essentially burning bridges with the West Bank. And speaking of burning bridges, they pissed off Egypt, a country that isn't fond of Israel to the point they blockaded Gaza too from their border next to it. Palestine is completely in a schism pretty much TWO NATIONS because of these politics(West Bank leaders vs Gaza's current dictatorship). How does that contribute to the wellbeing of Palestine? They start wars with a nation that can easily crush the place worse than they did with Lebanon if that country had no restraint or obligation to try to be peaceful, and then put their people at risk, firing rockets and shit next to playgrounds, the most densely populated apartment housing complexes, schools, off of hospitals, etc. West Bank has problems, hostilities too with Israel, but you don't see them half as fucked up as Gaza even with their extremists. Why? no HAMAS!

People can say whatever they want, but after all the crap that HAMAS just pulled, a deliberate massacre on civilians, they are not in the right for that. They are stupid. Hate or love Israel, but if you care about Palestine, you would not support HAMAS. They are evil. That's my opinion on the matter.

Thank you; good summary!

It always seemed like, whenever Israel tried to give the occupied territories some kind of autonomy and work toward a two state solution, instead of, you know, actually trying to create infrastructure, help their people, and build some kind of sustainable economy, the first thing the newly-liberated Palestinians would do was...attack Israel.

 

[ll74]

Like anybody believes for a split second they are gonna even attempt to parse Hamas from everybody else. Its not clear if they could if they wanted they are just gonna.

Sounds like your bias is showing.

Hamas has consistently engaged in using civilians for cover.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sounds like your bias is showing.

Hamas has consistently engaged in using civilians for cover.

I didn't say they hadn't, I said israel would make no effort to parse them even if they could.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Holy crap if ever there was a time to be happy we don't have president Trump.

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...s-should-threaten-iranian-oil-infrastructure/

 

[Dribble]

Sounds like your bias is showing.

Hamas has consistently engaged in using civilians for cover.

The fact you don't care innocents on both sides are dying shows your true nature. Is that a "bias"?

 

[Dribble]

Many here may not know...Gaza is the most densely populated 140 sq miles on the Earth. This was by Israeli design. Now tell me bright ones...people want to be critical of Hamas using civilians as shields...but what does that have to do with IDF attacking what they are...and how they are? There is zero evidence some of the IDF targets is Hamas related. But you still believe those that have murdered in the past in the name of religion.

Israel wants Hamas to kill hostages...that way they can kill all Palestinians. Eye for an eye...except...it really isn't is it?

The good news...all of Arabia is watching closely. That peace you thought you had achieved...is gone. Not because of Hamas...but because of your choice to murder innocent citizens. But then...that is what you wanted. You never wanted peace

 

[Sean Renaud]

He cares kinda sorta and like most hasn't read all the posts cus I stated very specifically that if the world was fair Bush and Obama would have been tried as war criminals. We know how many laws they were breaking and just don't care. Until Biden and crew broke the agreement of we don't hold our politicians responsible for their actions that was just ageed on.

 

[Jmanchu]

Many here may not know...Gaza is the most densely populated 140 sq miles on the Earth. This was by Israeli design. Now tell me bright ones...people want to be critical of Hamas using civilians as shields...but what does that have to do with IDF attacking what they are...and how they are? There is zero evidence some of the IDF targets is Hamas related. But you still believe those that have murdered in the past in the name of religion.

Israel wants Hamas to kill hostages...that way they can kill all Palestinians. Eye for an eye...except...it really isn't is it?

The good news...all of Arabia is watching closely. That peace you thought you had achieved...is gone. Not because of Hamas...but because of your choice to murder innocent citizens. But then...that is what you wanted. You never wanted peace

Nah, nah, nah... I'm sorry, I can't agree with your logic there. Killing and kidnapping citizens, raping women, then taking the women and children to Gaza after beating them and stripping them while threatening to execute them is just fucked. I don't care what political reasoning there is, that is just inhumane. I don't care how much you hate a country for existing, that's just fucked up. After all the complaints and shit HAMAS said about Israel killing women and children for years then doing this just is fucked and hypocritical now. I have always wished the best for the Palestinian people, always, even keeping pretty neutral about the struggles and conflict of Israel and Palestine, especially with the settlements which I have reservations about, but this what HAMAS did lately is not something I can support as a human being. At all. They're just going to lose a lot of support from the world by doing this. Also, provoking a more powerful nation into being forced to act is the stupidest thing I've heard of them doing in a long time. I can NOT support HAMAS at all, especially after this. That organization is led by monsters. They terrorize Israel and they terrorize their own people. Why are you talking like you want war, death and destruction? Why do you see broken peace as a good thing? Why so much hate? Why not hope for peace, compromise, and love for all sides? Peace is good.

 

[rainsol]

Holy crap if ever there was a time to be happy we don't have president Trump.

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...s-should-threaten-iranian-oil-infrastructure/

Your dumb as a box of rocks this is not a US problem...The Iranians are going to shed blood not oil. Gaza is not going to be the only war zone. Israel is going to attack Iran over this. So far Biden has gotten the US invaded, could have avoided war in the Ukraine and now is giving money to the mortal enemy of Israel and what do you idiot do, blame Trump...God it just not get any dumber than you fucking marxists on Lit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Your dumb as a box of rocks this is not a US problem...The Iranians are going to shed blood not oil. Gaza is not going to be the only war zone. Israel is going to attack Iran over this. So far Biden has gotten the US invaded, could have avoided war in the Ukraine and now is giving money to the mortal enemy of Israel and what do you idiot do, blame Trump...God it just not get any dumber than you fucking marxists on Lit.

This is very much a US problem, that isn't something that can rationally denied. Grand scheme of things blood is better than oil. Gaza will be if not the only the main one in this particular issue. Israel is many thing, many that I don't like but they are not stupid.

Biden has not gotten the US invaded, there has been no US invasion so. . .yeah. That's just paranoia bullshit. No we could not have avoided the war in Ukraine and even if we could have most of us can't see the future. Actually nobody really gave money to the mortal enemy or Israel. While Trump probably is to blame I've actually refrained from speaking on the subject thus far, we need more data than two days has provided especially since so many people are speculating right now.

Yeah anybody claiming there are Marxists on Lit has already proven that it does get much, much dumber than the people who have a damn solid track record.

 

[Jmanchu]

Your dumb as a box of rocks this is not a US problem...The Iranians are going to shed blood not oil. Gaza is not going to be the only war zone. Israel is going to attack Iran over this. So far Biden has gotten the US invaded, could have avoided war in the Ukraine and now is giving money to the mortal enemy of Israel and what do you idiot do, blame Trump...God it just not get any dumber than you fucking marxists on Lit.

They won't attack Iran. If they did, it'll risk bringing in Russia, China, and its allies into the Middle East conflict, which in turn will make a complete shitshow in the Middle East, then that'll pull every other nation allied with Israel or against Russia with interests in the Middle East in the conflict. Full World War 3. The only way Iran is going to be attacked properly is if the entire western powers, including NATO, are in agreement with bringing down Iran. Second, Israel only has so much manpower to expend far enough outside of their borders for them to stage a full on effective attack against a larger country like Iran without exposing themselves with little to no manpower left to defend their borders properly. They wouldn't do that, not without a lot of support. And firing a missile or two without a fully committed attack isn't going to do anything but create tension with the Middle East and the world.

 

[icanhelp1]

They won't attack Iran. If they did, it'll risk bringing in Russia, China, and its allies into the Middle East conflict, which in turn will make a complete shitshow in the Middle East, then that'll pull every other nation allied with Israel or against Russia with interests in the Middle East in the conflict. Full World War 3. The only way Iran is going to be attacked properly is if the entire western powers, including NATO, are in agreement with bringing down Iran. Second, Israel only has so much manpower to expend far enough outside of their borders for them to stage a full on effective attack against a larger country like Iran without exposing themselves with little to no manpower left to defend their borders properly. They wouldn't do that, not without a lot of support. And firing a missile or two without a fully committed attack isn't going to do anything but create tension with the Middle East and the world.

Russia has its hands full with Ukraine.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

The Nazis are here.
The Religio-Nazis

When they say they want the Jews exterminated, they mean it, you’d better listen to them.

And guess who’s supporting them? The American Left. The people who thing Republicans are Nazis and call them that. The people who hunt for Nazis under every single rock and behind every shadow simply cannot see Nazis (Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, remember that guy?) standing in front of them IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!

The Children who have taken over the Democrat Party.
Where are the adults?

Children always blame somebody else.
#Whataboutism

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Has Joe surrendered Jerusalem yet?

Gas prices prices going up yet?

Inflation?
Bidenomics?
#$BidForPolicy?

We’re paying for his mistakes in judgement.
#DrillBabyDrill!

Children always blame somebody else.
#Whataboutism

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Accounting lesson:

Accrual Accounting Vs Cash Accounting

Fungible – as long as the final total balances, account balances don’t have to

Credit. What you have with a balanced ledger.

Children always blame somebody else.
#Whataboutism

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Bidenomics
BidForPolicy

The more we arm Ukraine, the longer the war goes on and the more money Iran and China (and now North Korea) make supplying arms to Russia and that’s money that can be used to intimidate their regional neighbors.

#$BidForPolicy

 

[ll74]

I didn't say they hadn't, I said israel would make no effort to parse them even if they could.

Yes, the bias.

 

[ll74]

Accounting lesson:

Accrual Accounting Vs Cash Accounting

Fungible – as long as the final total balances, account balances don’t have to

Credit. What you have with a balanced ledger.

Children always blame somebody else.
#Whataboutism

Take your horseshit to another thread.
A reminder - the blame Biden thread is here -> https://forum.literotica.com/thread...olicy-a-total-disaster-israel-at-war.1596812/

And of course, you already have several blame Democrat threads.

Thanks.

 

[zipman]

Not sure if credible, but I've seen reports of Israeli forces clearing houses, sending civilians to a city square, them bombing the square.

Well maybe you should make sure it is credible before you post it you fucking moron.

 

[ll74]

Well maybe you should make sure it is credible before you post it you fucking moron.

I specifically asked him to post the source.

 

[zipman]

Many here may not know...Gaza is the most densely populated 140 sq miles on the Earth. This was by Israeli design. Now tell me bright ones...people want to be critical of Hamas using civilians as shields...but what does that have to do with IDF attacking what they are...and how they are? There is zero evidence some of the IDF targets is Hamas related. But you still believe those that have murdered in the past in the name of religion.

Israel wants Hamas to kill hostages...that way they can kill all Palestinians. Eye for an eye...except...it really isn't is it?

The good news...all of Arabia is watching closely. That peace you thought you had achieved...is gone. Not because of Hamas...but because of your choice to murder innocent citizens. But then...that is what you wanted. You never wanted peace

The level of ignorance and stupidity in your post is truly astounding.

First off, that Gaza is the most densely populated place on earth is by Arab design, not Israeli. After the 1948 when all surrounding Arab countries attacked Israel and lost, the Palestinians were put into refugee camps and not allowed to assimilate into Jordan, Egypt or Lebanon specifically do they could be used as pawns against Israel. This is the only example in modern history where this has happened.

Second, Palestinians took Israeli hostages in order to trade then for Lebanon prisoners, which Isreal had done before and it is never 1:1 but usually hundreds of Palestinians for one Israeli.

Palestinians executed civilians inclined women and children in child blood. That you or anyone else could even attempt to justify that is truly sickening.

 

[ll74]

Now tell me bright ones...people want to be critical of Hamas using civilians as shields...but what does that have to do with IDF attacking what they are...and how they are? There is zero evidence some of the IDF targets is Hamas related. But you still believe those that have murdered in the past in the name of religion.

Israel wants Hamas to kill hostages...that way they can kill all Palestinians. Eye for an eye...except...it really isn't is it?

The good news...all of Arabia is watching closely. That peace you thought you had achieved...is gone. Not because of Hamas...but because of your choice to murder innocent citizens. But then...that is what you wanted. You never wanted peace

Your bias is showing. Nobody should use civilians as shields.

Israel should allow civilians passage to safety.