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I did not say weird, I said interesting.yes, I know. It's weird.
Is there more to the story?
Could he perhaps feel like he is not satisfying you during intercourse?
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I did not say weird, I said interesting.yes, I know. It's weird.
I know you didn't say weird. I said weird. But I probably should not have said anything to start with. I am new to these forums, so please give me some time. Right now it feels uncomfortable discussing this out here. I'm sorry.I did not say weird, I said interesting.
Is there more to the story?
Could he perhaps feel like he is not satisfying you during intercourse?
Don’t be sorry Lea, I am not trying to give you a hard time. Honestly, this is a judgement free thread, like all my threads for that matter.I know you didn't say weird. I said weird. But I probably should not have said anything to start with. I am new to these forums, so please give me some time. Right now it feels uncomfortable discussing this out here. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry I ran off. When I found these forums, I thought maybe I could find someone to talk to. My husband and I have been married for only 2 years, and our sex life has been "clumsy." That's the only way I know how to explain it. But he's my best friend, and I've known him since the 6th grade, and now everything's gotten weird, and I don't know how to handle it. We've been inseparable best friends for so many years, and now it's like I don't know who he is or what he wants anymore. I've never had a problem I couldn't overcome, and now I'm just completely and utterly lost. I need someone to talk to, but I can't walk up to my mom or a friend and begin discussing my sex life. It's an impossible and frustrating situation.I did not say weird, I said interesting.
Is there more to the story?
Could he perhaps feel like he is not satisfying you during intercourse?
You are not rambling, you are just expressing yourself with a difficult subject that clearly stirs up big emotions.I'm sorry I ran off. When I found these forums, I thought maybe I could find someone to talk to. My husband and I have been married for only 2 years, and our sex life has been "clumsy." That's the only way I know how to explain it. But he's my best friend, and I've known him since the 6th grade, and now everything's gotten weird, and I don't know how to handle it. We've been inseparable best friends for so many years, and now it's like I don't know who he is or what he wants anymore. I've never had a problem I couldn't overcome, and now I'm just completely and utterly lost. I need someone to talk to, but I can't walk up to my mom or a friend and begin discussing my sex life. It's an impossible and frustrating situation.
Sorry for rambling.
Lea, Some stupid questions as my suggestions are simple. Like you could start over again. Is he and you the others first and/or only? When you were younger did you masturbate? Did he and you talk about it?I'm sorry I ran off. When I found these forums, I thought maybe I could find someone to talk to. My husband and I have been married for only 2 years, and our sex life has been "clumsy." That's the only way I know how to explain it. But he's my best friend, and I've known him since the 6th grade, and now everything's gotten weird, and I don't know how to handle it. We've been inseparable best friends for so many years, and now it's like I don't know who he is or what he wants anymore. I've never had a problem I couldn't overcome, and now I'm just completely and utterly lost. I need someone to talk to, but I can't walk up to my mom or a friend and begin discussing my sex life. It's an impossible and frustrating situation.
Sorry for rambling.
I have been trying to build up the courage to answer your questions. I will try.You are not rambling, you are just expressing yourself with a difficult subject that clearly stirs up big emotions.
Is sex the only time you feel weird with him? Has that feeling spoiled the other aspect of your life with him?
How are non sexual conversations with him?
If he has been your best friend from 6th grade, I think it’s safe to assume that, you guys can talk about anything.
If you were to talk to him, what would you talk about?
And last, but not least, why do you think you are feeling this way? Were you not happy and satisfied before you got married? I am assuming you guys had premarital sex. It’s ok to feel the way you do, try, if you can, sorting out your feelings before you bring him into it. Seeking help is courageous, I would suggest, if you can, talking to a professional.
Feel better soon.
I will have to respond later. I have to start dinner.Lea, Some stupid questions as my suggestions are simple. Like you could start over again. Is he and you the others first and/or only? When you were younger did you masturbate? Did he and you talk about it?
I am not sure who initiates sex for the two of you now but do it kind of naughty and be really interested in how hard you can make him. Let him feel how good it is when you want him to want you to want him. Is he interested in how wet you are? Maybe once you have his attention you could show him. Maybe even show him how you touch yourself and need him to see if he can do it.
I'm sorry if it seems redundant, silly or even stupid. But for me the innocence and sheer open sharing of your libido would send me over the top.
Does he allow you to blow him? When he comes does it shoot with some distance? Take your time getting him there and let his cum fly to his chest. If you increase the intensity of climax and make it fun he may want to do more for you. I can't imagine he is not horny. I'm 58 and it hasn't let down a bit. Experiencing innocence again would be fantasy for me.
Anyway, after you have both learned the mechanic's of what you like with love and affection in foreplay, sex has to improve. That is how it always worked for me. Yet the fuel for my drive is her pleasure. Knowing I did that and feeling her want me to is the most intense pleasure I get from sex. The rewards have been amazing.
Best of luck. It is hard to have this conversation without sharing what I like from a male's perspective without knowing more about you and him.
We would never discuss masturbation. I know I couldn't.Lea, Some stupid questions as my suggestions are simple. Like you could start over again. Is he and you the others first and/or only? When you were younger did you masturbate? Did he and you talk about it?
I am not sure who initiates sex for the two of you now but do it kind of naughty and be really interested in how hard you can make him. Let him feel how good it is when you want him to want you to want him. Is he interested in how wet you are? Maybe once you have his attention you could show him. Maybe even show him how you touch yourself and need him to see if he can do it.
I'm sorry if it seems redundant, silly or even stupid. But for me the innocence and sheer open sharing of your libido would send me over the top.
Does he allow you to blow him? When he comes does it shoot with some distance? Take your time getting him there and let his cum fly to his chest. If you increase the intensity of climax and make it fun he may want to do more for you. I can't imagine he is not horny. I'm 58 and it hasn't let down a bit. Experiencing innocence again would be fantasy for me.
Anyway, after you have both learned the mechanic's of what you like with love and affection in foreplay, sex has to improve. That is how it always worked for me. Yet the fuel for my drive is her pleasure. Knowing I did that and feeling her want me to is the most intense pleasure I get from sex. The rewards have been amazing.
Best of luck. It is hard to have this conversation without sharing what I like from a male's perspective without knowing more about you and him.
Lea,I have been trying to build up the courage to answer your questions. I will try.
It most often feels weird during sex, but not always. If we go out and there are other guys around, he makes these comments that make me very uneasy. I usually respond in a way that is not very nice, and it ruins the mood, and we both go quiet. I can't talk about that in more detail out here, but in these forums I have been reading people posting similar ideas. At least I have that to consider, but Holy God! - there is stuff out here that is totally bizarre! If we are having a normal conversation, we get along like we always did. We talk mostly about work and friends and what we might be doing next.
Our sex life is now almost always him giving me oral. Every time he asks me if I had an orgasm, and I always tell him I did, but how do I know when I've had an orgasm? I've read about it online, but different sites say different things. It feels good. Sometimes it feels really good. Is that on orgasm? How long should it take for me to have an orgasm? Because on the rare occasion that we fuck, it doesn't last very long. But how long should it last? We don't make it into any ranges I've read so far, and I know that makes him very self-conscious. I tell him it was great, but he goes quiet. We really don't know how to discuss our sex life.
I know I am the dumbest girl in the world when it comes to sex, but my parents are very conservative and overly protective. His parents are ultra conservative. I was not allowed to have a cell phone until I was a senior in high school, so it probably comes as no surprise that he and I were virgins when we got married.
I could never sit across from a therapist and discuss my sex life. I can't even discuss it with my husband.
I am sorry to have written so much, but these forums are the only time i have ever talked about this with anyone. Thank you for listening.
Nothing you said offended me. I am getting a real education reading these forums, and from the number of replies and the length of some of the threads, I think I can tell what is popular and what is not. This thread, CFNM, humiliation, and some other activities I am too shy to even mention, are things I never could have imagined. I am trying to keep an open mind.Lea, I’m throwing my unsolicited hat in the ring, so to speak.
You mentioned that he makes comments around other guys that make you uncomfortable, and the conversation goes quiet… without knowing the gist of the comments or being in the moment, it’s hard to know what’s going on there, but it seems like an important part of the puzzle.
Perhaps he struggles to feel masculine around other guys and is puffing out his chest at your expense… or equally likely, he is turned on at the thought of those men dominating you sexually. I could be completely off base, and have no intent to offend you, but an exgirlfriend told me that her ex husband would weirdly try to push her off on his friends, and decades later she still was puzzled as to why. I didn’t share my thoughts with her on that as I still ponder that whole dynamic myself… there is a ton of “informative material” here on Lit regarding that lol.
Was he also raised conservative as you were? That’s a sure fire way to place hurdles between the two of you regarding open communication about sex and desires.
I began dating a very close friend in my last months in the navy, a year or so later we were walking up the aisle… against my better judgment, as I was so not ready, and felt trapped from day one. We were together about three years, but I was in “run” mode the whole time and finally we parted, with anguish on her part, and anguish and crushing guilt (and incredible relief) on mine… not saying you guys shouldn’t be together, just saying that I feel your distress.
Open up to each other or it won’t work.
If he grew up ultra conservative maybe he was always told how sinful thoughts will lead you straight to hell!Nothing you said offended me. I am getting a real education reading these forums, and from the number of replies and the length of some of the threads, I think I can tell what is popular and what is not. This thread, CFNM, humiliation, and some other activities I am too shy to even mention, are things I never could have imagined. I am trying to keep an open mind.
We have a dinner date tonight. We will see what happens when we get home.
His family is ultra conservative, much worse than my parents.
Hope your dinner date went well, and didn’t end up in an awkward silence.Nothing you said offended me. I am getting a real education reading these forums, and from the number of replies and the length of some of the threads, I think I can tell what is popular and what is not. This thread, CFNM, humiliation, and some other activities I am too shy to even mention, are things I never could have imagined. I am trying to keep an open mind.
We have a dinner date tonight. We will see what happens when we get home.
His family is ultra conservative, much worse than my parents.
Nothing sadder to me than seeing a natural redhead with all of her red pubes shaved or lasered off. Trimming, shaping are wonderful. But removing all of those glorious ginger pubes is a shame.I get it...
My pussy is basically bald from laser treatments. Just a decorative little heart shape tuff of muff above the action center. I like being baby smoot with no stubble and guys seem to like it too. But my girlfriend has her full bush. She had laser treatments to clean up the edges. She has red hair on her head and pussy. She doesn't want it removed because she knows that guys go crazy about red muff.
I know I would enjoy eating her even if she was bald but the truth is I too like the hair. I don't mind getting hairs in my mouth and there is something about the texture of her bush against my tongue that I love.
So bald is beautiful but fur is beautiful too.
As a submissive guy in an FLR (we are both professionals with advanced degrees), it sounds to me like he needs you to take charge of your sex life and probably his orgasms. Great start!I would like to reply to some of your posts, but first I need to thank you all. I listened to the things you have posted here and things people have told me in PM's, and I knew you were right. I didn't want to admit it at first, but there is an old saying in my industry that basically says, "Money doesn't care what the truth is." It means that if you want to make money, you have to accept reality. So I accepted that there are certain things he wants, and certain things I want, but no one is steering our ship. He is never going to steer the ship. That is not his personality, so I knew I would have to.
Saturday night was completely different than anything we've ever done before. I was nervous, like sooo nervous, but I directed us to do some things I have read about on here. Since I knew he would want to do oral on me, and I knew that the clothed-female-nude-male thing is popular, I combined them. I saw that in a picture on here. To get him to undress first, I had to stall forever brushing my teeth. lol!! But it worked, mostly, and I led him to our family room. It didn't happen as easily as it sounds, but some gentle persuasion moved things along. After that, I got the penetration I wanted. It didn't last very long, and he felt ashamed, but I held on to him to make him know it was OK.
Yesterday was probably the best day of our marriage. We went to an arts and crafts show, and we held hands the whole time we walked around. He acted completely different towards me.
But we were standing in line at a food truck, and I was thinking about how things between us had changed overnight. I remembered when we got married, the wife of his preacher told me something. She said that all I had to do to be a good wife was "be an angel in the kitchen and a hussy in the bedroom." I never took her serious. All this time, it was that simple?
I want to say more, but I have to start work. Thank you so much to everyone. I still have questions, there are things I think he wants that I really don't know how to handle, but for now, I feel like we are a couple again.
I have to go.
How would I take charge of his orgasms? I don't know what that means.As a submissive guy in an FLR (we are both professionals with advanced degrees), it sounds to me like he needs you to take charge of your sex life and probably his orgasms. Great start!
In a Femdom or FLR relationship the male is not allowed to ejaculate without permission from the superior woman. He grants and acknowledges this power exchange. In my marriage, I must ask permission to cum. Masturbation is forbidden. I am allowed to spurt about once every 3-4 weeks. She is provided an orgasm whenever she desires.How would I take charge of his orgasms? I don't know what that means.
After I read your post, I went on a quest, and I have read about FLR on many different websites. There is a wikihow that talks about it in a forthright manner. It talked about how the woman makes the decisions, the woman is often the breadwinner, and the woman leads the marriage. This is already us, and it's one topic I have discussed with a close friend. I have tried to get my husband to take more ownership in our marriage, but I think he feels intimidated because I have a white-collar type of job, and I am more educated. It upsets me because I married him for who he is, and I do not need him to be more than that. I want everyone to know that he is no deadbeat. He works a job, he maintains the house and our yard and the cars, and he does volunteer work with our church, but he doesn't want anything to do with like banking or investment decisions, future planning, vacation planning, what to do on the weekends, or any of that. It's all up to me. I control most things for us, but controlling his orgasms? I don't know about that. I can't imagine he would be OK with that, but I never thought I would be taking the lead in our sex life - which now looks inevitable.In a Femdom or FLR relationship the male is not allowed to ejaculate without permission from the superior woman. He grants and acknowledges this power exchange. In my marriage, I must ask permission to cum. Masturbation is forbidden. I am allowed to spurt about once every 3-4 weeks. She is provided an orgasm whenever she desires.
Thank you, Dom70.Lea
Sometimes we men are jerks. Sometimes we just are not on the same page as you Ladies. I want to say that I am proud of you for taking the initiative with him and making SOMETHING happen! Well done!
I am also proud of you for just holding hands and spending that time together. Again...sometimes all it takes for us men is to have someone take the time to "help" us work through some things. I know for myself, that is a big help.
Also sometimes we just need to be held and encouraged.
OK/..am done now but wanted to tell you that I am proud of you for taking the initiative!
Sir
Well, there are different levels of the cuck life.After I read your post, I went on a quest, and I have read about FLR on many different websites. There is a wikihow that talks about it in a forthright manner. It talked about how the woman makes the decisions, the woman is often the breadwinner, and the woman leads the marriage. This is already us, and it's one topic I have discussed with a close friend. I have tried to get my husband to take more ownership in our marriage, but I think he feels intimidated because I have a white-collar type of job, and I am more educated. It upsets me because I married him for who he is, and I do not need him to be more than that. I want everyone to know that he is no deadbeat. He works a job, he maintains the house and our yard and the cars, and he does volunteer work with our church, but he doesn't want anything to do with like banking or investment decisions, future planning, vacation planning, what to do on the weekends, or any of that. It's all up to me. I control most things for us, but controlling his orgasms? I don't know about that. I can't imagine he would be OK with that, but I never thought I would be taking the lead in our sex life - which now looks inevitable.
Thank you for your posts, NancyPen. I have a lot to think about.