Do you own your body?

[Lazaran]

The Democratic Party...has no policy. They say they support this...and support that...and they have no plan on how to do this. Other than "vote for us". That is the real problem. They are reactive to what the Republicans do. They are not proactive to this is the problem...let's fix it...and here is how.

What is the number one issue roughly 70% of Americans say we need to address? I don't know about what kind of campaign you run...but confronting that would be my number one goal. Why hasn't this Administration come out and say...I hear you...this is our plan. Remember 20 years ago....candidates dropped actual plans on the desk. Where are these plans?

Seriously???

Your response was basically - Nuh-uh followed by a vague demand for action on…something?



VOTE.

And VOTE Democrat if you want pragmatic, practicable, positive change.

 

[adrina]

It has to do with sampling of a larger population. Once the sample gets over the critical value...adding more samples to the dataset do not make it more precise or accurate. The question...if you want to debate this...is the voting group representative of the population as a whole? Demographic data from over 50 years of collection say it is. However, if you have evidence this is not the case...walk on down to your Party's nearest campaign office and show it to them. They will embrace you fully.


Ask any Republican why they vote as they do...even in spite of the removal of women's rights...they will tell you they don't support that. Ask them why they vote to kill kids in schools with guns...they will tell you they don't support that. Ask them why they support a President that lies and is a criminal....again...they will claim they disagree with Trump. So in spite of all the negatives...no matter what...they will still vote Republican. Why? BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO SUPPORT THESE THINGS. Fifty percent of those that don't vote...would vote Republican if forced. This is what numbers say. Again...if you got data better than what we have...please show it.

There is only one way to convince those that don't vote to vote. That is to give them what they ask for. You want the youth vote....why has this Administration sold out on environmental issues each and every time? They see the empty words.

Ask any high school kid...what they think of our future. You won't like it. They see it as it is. No sugar coating. No Kool-aid. And you want their vote? And refuse to listen to them?

You want more voters supporting your party? Give them a say. No say....no votes

You can't even figure out how many are in the fucking sample Mr statistics.

The reality is, once again for the foolish idiots - you included - that the government won't care about the people unless the people make them.

The most successful movements in all of history - not just America - are from the ground up. Always.

I want people to be voters. Militantly. You keep making this about partisan politics. It's about civic responsibility.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Democrat’s policies are perfectly on point.

Thanks for the laugh

 

[Lazaran]

"Becky" is likely confusing “perfectly on point” with the unobtainable / impracticable "perfect".

The "perfect" that is the enemy of the good.



"Becky"

 

[adrina]

Thanks for the laugh

You don't have to like the two party system. But until we have an alternative it's what we have to work with. That's basic reality.

Democrats aren't perfect. Would you rather have the republicans?

 

[icanhelp1]

You can't even figure out how many are in the fucking sample Mr statistics.

The reality is, once again for the foolish idiots - you included - that the government won't care about the people unless the people make them.

The most successful movements in all of history - not just America - are from the ground up. Always.

I want people to be voters. Militantly. You keep making this about partisan politics. It's about civic responsibility.

Your problem is you see only democrat votes as being civically responsible while leaving out the other half of the country, making enemies rather friends, calling Americans MAGATS or MAGGOTS will only increase the divide. You and Laz are partisan hacks using insults and ad-hom as a platform to plead your case. You wrap yourself in “Orange Man Bad” and just refuse to acknowledge the other side.

 

[Dribble]

Seriously???

Your response was basically - Nuh-uh followed by a vague demand for action on…something?



VOTE.

And VOTE Democrat if you want pragmatic, practicable, positive change.

Let's pick one....

Abortion

What has happened under the Biden Administration? What has he done? Let individual court cases be brought up in state courts.

How about something easier?

Book banning in public libraries and public schools.

What has the Biden Administration done?

Ok ok...too difficult...

What is the Number One Issue reported by potential voters across the country? The what? What has he done about it?

 

[Dribble]

You don't have to like the two party system. But until we have an alternative it's what we have to work with. That's basic reality.

Democrats aren't perfect. Would you rather have the republicans?

And here is is Adrina...the crux of what I have been trying to point out. To those that don't vote...for whatever reason...they don't care. They get fucked by both. To them...it makes no difference. Glad you finally saw the light. Running on the policy of "we ain't them" isn't good enough to swing voters to your side

 

[ll74]

To those that don't vote...for whatever reason...they don't care.

Just trimmed it down to make the real point.

And yet they still whine about shit the loudest.

As if other people are supposed to make something happen for them.

Don't do shit

Don't get shit

Other people don't owe you a damn thing

 

[adrina]

And here is is Adrina...the crux of what I have been trying to point out. To those that don't vote...for whatever reason...they don't care. They get fucked by both. To them...it makes no difference. Glad you finally saw the light. Running on the policy of "we ain't them" isn't good enough to swing voters to your side

That's my fucking point dumbass. Americans don't care enough to be informed, to be involved and to vote. But you magically want a government of, by and for the people to care about the people.

Fuck off with your bullshit.

 

[Dribble]

You can't even figure out how many are in the fucking sample Mr statistics.

The reality is, once again for the foolish idiots - you included - that the government won't care about the people unless the people make them.

The most successful movements in all of history - not just America - are from the ground up. Always.

I want people to be voters. Militantly. You keep making this about partisan politics. It's about civic responsibility.

Read Crane Briton. Anatomy of a Revolution. Kinda old...but still very relevant.

Name one State....one....should be simple...only takes one...that voted for Trump in the 20 election that will not vote Republican in 24. One. So....adding voters there...more Republican voters than Democratic voters...does what to the Presidential Election? Ok....what if we increase the voters in California....what changes? Why? So basically....it comes down to 3 states who gets elected for President. In those states...what type of political leaning do those that don't vote have?

So basically, nothing changes at the Federal level. Why?

Ok...you want to work from the ground up...State elections follow much of the same premise as Federal elections. Look at the geographic map of US. Overlay those State districts held by Republicans. Pick one. Any one. You choose. Look at the non-voters in those districts. Are they magically Democratic leaning?

Oh...you want local elections right? Ok...pick any state. You choose. Randomly pick any Republican run local community. You choose. Look at the political demographics of non-voters in those communities. Are the magically Democratic leaning?

The point is simple Adrina. If you want to attract new voters...you have to offer something other than what is being offered.

 

[adrina]

Your problem is you see only democrat votes as being civically responsible while leaving out the other half of the country, making enemies rather friends, calling Americans MAGATS or MAGGOTS will only increase the divide. You and Laz are partisan hacks using insults and ad-hom as a platform to plead your case. You wrap yourself in “Orange Man Bad” and just refuse to acknowledge the other side.

Republican policy = own the libs.

 

[adrina]

Read Crane Briton. Anatomy of a Revolution. Kinda old...but still very relevant.

Name one State....one....should be simple...only takes one...that voted for Trump in the 20 election that will not vote Republican in 24. One. So....adding voters there...more Republican voters than Democratic voters...does what to the Presidential Election? Ok....what if we increase the voters in California....what changes? Why? So basically....it comes down to 3 states who gets elected for President. In those states...what type of political leaning do those that don't vote have?

So basically, nothing changes at the Federal level. Why?

Ok...you want to work from the ground up...State elections follow much of the same premise as Federal elections. Look at the geographic map of US. Overlay those State districts held by Republicans. Pick one. Any one. You choose. Look at the non-voters in those districts. Are they magically Democratic leaning?

Oh...you want local elections right? Ok...pick any state. You choose. Randomly pick any Republican run local community. You choose. Look at the political demographics of non-voters in those communities. Are the magically Democratic leaning?

The point is simple Adrina. If you want to attract new voters...you have to offer something other than what is being offered.

Again Mr statistics it's not about partisanship. It's about civic responsibility.

Goddamn you're a yappy puppy.

 

[Dribble]

Just trimmed it down to make the real point.

And yet they still whine about shit the loudest.

As if other people are supposed to make something happen for them.

Don't do shit

Don't get shit

Other people don't owe you a damn thing

Such a Democratic policy. Glad to see the real you

 

[ll74]

Such a Democratic policy. Glad to see the real you

I've been here the whole time, dip shit.

 

[Dribble]

Again Mr statistics it's not about partisanship. It's about civic responsibility.

Goddamn you're a yappy puppy.

Just pointing out the obvious Adrina. We can magically force all citizens to vote. And nothing changes because in areas that vote Democrat...all you get is more Democratic votes. In areas that vote Republican...all you get is more Republican votes. It washes out. Why? Because that is our reality. The votes aren't there to change what is happening. How can we make a change? By not offering what we have shown to be a failed policy for the last 20 years

 

[Dribble]

I've been here the whole time, dip shit.

I know. And that's why I hold the mirror for you

 

[icanhelp1]

Republican policy = own the libs.

Nothing to do with owning libs, but no matter what my beliefs are the middle hash mark no longer exists.

Unfortunately we are two separate teams playing on two separate fields where each team always wins and no one loses, but yet the spectators always lose.

 

[Lazaran]

Let's pick one....

Abortion

What has happened under the Biden Administration? What has he done? Let individual court cases be brought up in state courts.

How about something easier?

Book banning in public libraries and public schools.

What has the Biden Administration done?

Ok ok...too difficult...

What is the Number One Issue reported by potential voters across the country? The what? What has he done about it?

•
If you were marginally more intelligent, and marginally less histrionic, you would answer your own questions - which would result in a self own.

And. You. Know. It.

“Biden” didn’t attack abortion rights. Abortion rights were lost because progressive voters didn’t turn out in overwhelming numbers for Hillary Clinton in 2016 despite the looming threat of Herr Drumpf and potential SCOTUS appointments.



Book banning is something “Biden” can unilaterally prevent???



I imagine you are referring to the economy with your final cryptic query???

How quickly people forget that America was supposed to be in a recession/depression on day one of Joe Biden’s presidency. Yet here we are, THRE YEARS LATER and still no recession/depression, despite the best efforts of , Putin, the Saudis, China, and the far right and far left in America.



The only point you have is the one on your dunce cap.

*nods*

 

[Dribble]

•
If you were marginally more intelligent, and marginally less histrionic, you would answer your own questions - which would result in a self own.

And. You. Know. It.

“Biden” didn’t attack abortion rights. Abortion rights were lost because progressive voters didn’t turn out in overwhelming numbers for Hillary Clinton in 2016 despite the looming threat of Herr Drumpf and potential SCOTUS appointments.



Book banning is something “Biden” can unilaterally prevent???



I imagine you are referring to the economy with your final cryptic query???

How quickly people forget that America was supposed to be in a recession/depression on day one of Joe Biden’s presidency. Yet here we are, THRE YEARS LATER and still no recession/depression, despite the best efforts of , Putin, the Saudis, China, and the far right and far left in America.



The only point you have is the one on your dunce cap.

*nods*

See my point? Do nothings supporting do nothing. No policy except react to what Republicans do and say vote for us....we didn't do this. No...you didn't...and you haven't put anything out there how to fix it

 

[adrina]

Just pointing out the obvious Adrina. We can magically force all citizens to vote. And nothing changes because in areas that vote Democrat...all you get is more Democratic votes. In areas that vote Republican...all you get is more Republican votes. It washes out. Why? Because that is our reality. The votes aren't there to change what is happening. How can we make a change? By not offering what we have shown to be a failed policy for the last 20 years

And when roughly just over half the people vote, we get a system that is exploited instead of representative of the people.

Again, if voting didn't matter then there would not be a multi-million dollar industry trying to suppress it. Nor would the GOP be put in forward the idea of raising the voting age.

 

[adrina]

Nothing to do with owning libs, but no matter what my beliefs are the middle hash mark no longer exists.

Unfortunately we are two separate teams playing on two separate fields where each team always wins and no one loses, but yet the spectators always lose.

You're an idiot.

 

[icanhelp1]

You're an idiot.

You’d be hard pressed to point out where the American people have won anything from either party.

But more ad-hom supports your argument.

 

[Lazaran]

And when roughly just over half the people vote, we get a system that is exploited instead of representative of the people.

Again, if voting didn't matter then there would not be a multi-million dollar industry trying to suppress it. Nor would the GOP be put in forward the idea of raising the voting age.

Yeah, that multi-million dollar effort to suppress the votes of primarily Democratic voters is a head scratcher…



Obviously that effort is paying off, as evidenced by Dribble basically parroting propaganda about Democrats not doing anything.



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[jaF0]

Federal and some state legislatures are nearly a 50/50 split. If another X million people vote (ones that had not before), what guarantee is there that those near even splits won't continue, or expand to other states?