mccarthy announces impeachment enquiry against President Biden, despite lacking the votes to get it started

[coati]

Looks like the Lit MAGAts got their panties in a bunch again, this time over the White House pushing back.

How dare a President push back against political opponents! Unbelievable!!

 

[phrodeau]

Unbelievable!! The Media is supposed to scrutinize the WH not the other way around. Such arrogance.

Why do you hate free speech?

 

[icanhelp1]

Looks like the Lit MAGAts got their panties in a bunch again, this time over the White House pushing back.

How dare a President push back against political opponents! Unbelievable!!

It's one thing to push back, it's another to solicit the press as an extension of the Biden White House. Shame on the press if they cave, but nothing new about our corrupt media.

 

[spacekowboy]

Exactly. Pelosi paved the way for eliminating the need for a vote. The inquiry will provide tools that will help add to the already voluminous body of evidence regarding Joe Biden’s role in the family influence peddling business.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Take off the clown shoes.

A Biden impeachment would have the same end game as the impeachments of Clinton and Trump: Senate acquittal. The House might take that step but it won’t result in removal from office. Voters will render judgment in November of next year.

The investigation has already revealed that Biden family members have received millions in payments from foreign interests, that Biden knew about Hunter’s business activities, that Hunter accompanied his father on AF 2 to China for business purposes, that Biden participated in numerous calls with Hunter business associates, that Biden met in person with Hunter associates, that Biden used the threat of withholding US aid to get Shokin fired, that Biden used pseudonyms for email correspondence that included Hunter (and is now resisting FOI requests to release those emails), that the controversial laptop emails that initially were deemed “Russian disinformation” have been independently authenticated, and that the DOJ tried to bury the IRS investigation and prosecution of the president’s son.

Because of these revelations, the President and WH have backed away from prior claims that Biden never discussed or had had knowledge of Hunter’s business activities, Biden-friendly news outlets such as the NYT now acknowledge that Biden was involved with Hunter’s activities, and that recent polling shows a majority of Americans now understand that Biden was unethically involved with Hunters’s influence peddling.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Take off the rainbow wig.

Never mind bank records showing millions paid to Biden family members through shell companies, emails authenticated by independent forensic experts, sworn testimonies, contemporaneous notes, WhatsApp messages, more than 20 calls with Hunter’s business associates, dinners with Hunter’s associates, personal note of gratitude to Devon Archer on Office of the Vice President stationary, use of pseudonyms in email correspondence with Hunter and others, and that trip to China. President Biden never discussed business with Hunter and never met any of his associates. There is nothing to investigate.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Take off the red nose.

“Bank records show that nearly $20 million in payments were directed to the Biden family members and associates through various shell companies,” McCarthy said.

Facts First: This is true about Joe Biden’s family and associates, but there is no public evidence to date that the president personally received any money.
“Even a trusted FBI informant has alleged a bribe to the Biden family,” McCarthy said.
Facts First: It’s true that an informant gave a tip of this nature to the FBI in 2020, and that the bureau had viewed him as a credible informant.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Ditch the squirting flower.


Keep pretending that factually corroborated nepotism sticks in your craw though, this was fun.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Take off the clown shoes.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Take off the rainbow wig.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Take off the red nose.

Jared Kuschner's $2B say hello. Ditch the squirting flower.


Keep pretending that factually corroborated nepotism sticks in your craw though, this was fun.

Democrats control the WH and Senate. There is nothing stopping a DOJ investigation or a Senate investigation. I have no objection. I believe the Senate did look into Jared’s deal. Maybe they still are. Haven’t seen any news on that lately. Maybe it’s just a matter of Schumer and Garland being asleep on the job.

Anyway, I certainly understand why Biden apologists constantly try to change the subject but if you want to discuss Kushner, start a Kushner thread.

 

[spacekowboy]

What position does Hunter Biden hold in the United states government again?

Oh that's right.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The talk of evidence is there, there are media articles about its hopeful existence. The disagreement isn't about its hopeful existence, it's about whether the hopeful evidence adds up to corruption or not.

https://media.tenor.com/B7TP3JU7qcAAAAAC/fixed.gif

 

[coati]

It's one thing to push back, it's another to solicit the press as an extension of the Biden White House. Shame on the press if they cave, but nothing new about our corrupt media.

You may be able to treat your bout of pout-rage with a cup of chamomile tea.

You're welcome!

 

[icanhelp1]

You may be able to treat your bout of pout-rage with a cup of chamomile tea.

You're welcome!

The only way this republic survives is with an unbiased press acting as a check and balance on our political system, not an extension of any one political party.

 

[Veroe]

The only way this republic survives is with an unbiased press acting as a check and balance on our political system, not an extension of any one political party.

I wholeheartedly agree, but our media has been trained to be deeply uncritical of officials on either side, and when they try to be it's the most blatantly partisan bs questioning imaginable.

 

[Rotadom]

Matty didn't want that smoke

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

A common tactic of Biden defenders is conflate impeachment inquiry with impeachment. They don’t deny the stunning revelations that have surfaced. They simply say this body of evidence doesn’t PROVE Biden received payments. They therefore don’t want the investigation to go any further than it already has. Especially since polling shows the revelations have a majority of Americans believing Biden has been unethically involved with Hunter’s business activities.

Here’s a video clip of a reporter trying to play that game with McCarthy. Watch how he takes her to school.

https://x.com/mzhemingway/status/1702423021523542490?s=46&t=D4wPadUSm31flBzHVSwUxA

 

[Rotadom]

The evidence that Joe received payment is there. All the SAR's which show all the bank accounts which filtered the money from Burisma and others to "Biden" bank accounts. Hunter's emails which proudly whine about having to pay 10% to the big guy - whom Bobulinski fingered as Joe - are there. More emails about Hunter paying Joe's bills from a "shared" bank account.

We still haven't seen the contents of the JRBWare false account emails yet and there's probably more evidence in those.

I also note the continuing goalpost moving on the part of those who hate Trump but support Biden. We've gone from "didn't know a thing" to "never discussed" to "not in business with" to "Not my laptop but I'm totally embarrassed by the invasion of my privacy by the release of the contents on the laptop" to "no evidence of corruption" to "no hard evidence of anything." Extrapolating (which a lot of people here seem to be able to do with self professed accuracy) from there, what do you think the next "explanation" will be? That Joe's fake email accounts are trojans and were hacked to send those fake emails trying to implicate him in some kind of insurectionist Republican inspired plot to overthrow the US government?

At some point even the most die hard supporter has to realize that there's some kind of there there. Whether it rises to something actionable isn't the question YET. But denying the existence of everything we've learned isn't going to make swallowing the bitter pill that your guy is corrupt, should such come about, any easier.

Put up or shut up, bird brain. It's that easy.

 

[Rotadom]

shows the revelations have a majority of Americans believing Biden has been unethically involved with Hunter’s business activities.

There isn't a single poll that shows that. Not one.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

There isn't a single poll that shows that. Not one.

CNN Poll: A majority of Americans believe Joe Biden, as VP, was involved with son’s business dealings​

By Ariel Edwards-Levy, CNN
Published 6:00 AM EDT, Thu September 7, 2023

CNN —
Most Americans say they think President Joe Biden was involved in his son’s business dealings with Ukraine and China while he served as vice president under Barack Obama, according to a CNN pollconducted by SSRS.

A majority, 61%, say they think that Biden had at least some involvement in Hunter Biden’s business dealings, with 42% saying they think he acted illegally, and 18% saying that his actions were unethical but not illegal. Another 38% say they don’t believe Joe Biden had any involvement in his son’s business dealings during his vice presidency. Just 1% believe Biden was involved, but did not do anything wrong.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/poll-hunter-biden/index.html

 

[Rotadom]

CNN Poll: A majority of Americans believe Joe Biden, as VP, was involved with son’s business dealings​

By Ariel Edwards-Levy, CNN
Published 6:00 AM EDT, Thu September 7, 2023

CNN —
Most Americans say they think President Joe Biden was involved in his son’s business dealings with Ukraine and China while he served as vice president under Barack Obama, according to a CNN pollconducted by SSRS.

A majority, 61%, say they think that Biden had at least some involvement in Hunter Biden’s business dealings, with 42% saying they think he acted illegally, and 18% saying that his actions were unethical but not illegal. Another 38% say they don’t believe Joe Biden had any involvement in his son’s business dealings during his vice presidency. Just 1% believe Biden was involved, but did not do anything wrong.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/poll-hunter-biden/index.html

I know. I already said no poll exists that proves the majority of Americans feel that way. The nuance stumped you.

 

[HisArpy]

CNN Poll: A majority of Americans believe Joe Biden, as VP, was involved with son’s business dealings​

By Ariel Edwards-Levy, CNN
Published 6:00 AM EDT, Thu September 7, 2023

CNN —
Most Americans say they think President Joe Biden was involved in his son’s business dealings with Ukraine and China while he served as vice president under Barack Obama, according to a CNN pollconducted by SSRS.

A majority, 61%, say they think that Biden had at least some involvement in Hunter Biden’s business dealings, with 42% saying they think he acted illegally, and 18% saying that his actions were unethical but not illegal. Another 38% say they don’t believe Joe Biden had any involvement in his son’s business dealings during his vice presidency. Just 1% believe Biden was involved, but did not do anything wrong.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/poll-hunter-biden/index.html

Some evidence has come to light that not only was Joe involved, he actually hosted a business meeting at the VP's official residence with Hunter and his business partners while attempting to negotiate a new Burisma business deal with some oligarch from Kazakhstan who is now in prison for fraud and corruption.

 

[Rotadom]

Some evidence has come to light that not only was Joe involved, he actually hosted a business meeting at the VP's official residence with Hunter and his business partners while attempting to negotiate a new Burisma business deal with some oligarch from Kazakhstan who is now in prison for fraud and corruption.

Put up or shut up, bird brain.

 

[YDB95]

There is no precedent for doing such to open an impeachment inquiry. Why should he be the first? Your demand for a vote to do so is based on MSNBC superstition.

I personally don't care one way or the other what McCarthy does. My point is simply that the reason why he didn't call a vote is not what you're claiming it is.

The only way this republic survives is with an unbiased press acting as a check and balance on our political system, not an extension of any one political party.

Then you agree we should get rid of Fox News? Good on ya!

 

[drusus]

No one is going to give you a gold star for being obtuse. The evidence is there, there are media articles about it. The disagreement isn't about its existence, it's about whether the evidence adds up to corruption or not.

So, you trying to argue that it doesn't exist isn't going to cut it. All that does is prove that you're an idiot without a clue who won't get off his ass to do anything except refuse to get off your ass to do anything.

I have no idea who you are and if you're this much of jerk in your replies to other people, but it doesn't really matter. You keep saying that there is abundant evidence for anyone who cares to look.

Hunter Biden does seem like a spiv, and I doubt anyone would be surprised if throws the family name about. Rich kids do that a lot and it often works. Internships, jobs, getting someone to agree to a meeting. There seems to have been a fair bit of that.

People probably wouldn't be surprised to find he's cheated on his taxes either. Plenty of people do, and plenty of them get away with it. If he did, he'll have to pay the price like anyone else.

There's the gun charge, but most of the people accusing him of wrongdoing don't want any paperwork when it comes to buying guns so they have limited mileage there.

However, the key point you are making is that President Biden has been involved in a scheme where he uses his influence on foreign entities and receives money through indirect means as a result. That's quite an accusation and, at this time, there is no evidence. You can find people talking about the odd email or WhatsApp message, but that's very thin. That's what's in these media articles you keep touting.

Processing money through a series of companies that provide nothing but sales or services would leave a trail a mile wide. In order to launder money, they would need to decouple the income from the source. Buy an apartment complex and rent out the units, that sort of thing. That way, the money coming in is external and clean. Seen any evidence of something like that in your articles?

People who don't have anything of substance often hide behind cheap insults. I imagine you'll keep doing it, and perhaps you really do expect people to be impressed.

 

[HisArpy]

I have no idea who you are and if you're this much of jerk in your replies to other people, but it doesn't really matter. You keep saying that there is abundant evidence for anyone who cares to look.

Hunter Biden does seem like a spiv, and I doubt anyone would be surprised if throws the family name about. Rich kids do that a lot and it often works. Internships, jobs, getting someone to agree to a meeting. There seems to have been a fair bit of that.

People probably wouldn't be surprised to find he's cheated on his taxes either. Plenty of people do, and plenty of them get away with it. If he did, he'll have to pay the price like anyone else.

There's the gun charge, but most of the people accusing him of wrongdoing don't want any paperwork when it comes to buying guns so they have limited mileage there.

However, the key point you are making is that President Biden has been involved in a scheme where he uses his influence on foreign entities and receives money through indirect means as a result. That's quite an accusation and, at this time, there is no evidence. You can find people talking about the odd email or WhatsApp message, but that's very thin. That's what's in these media articles you keep touting.

Processing money through a series of companies that provide nothing but sales or services would leave a trail a mile wide. In order to launder money, they would need to decouple the income from the source. Buy an apartment complex and rent out the units, that sort of thing. That way, the money coming in is external and clean. Seen any evidence of something like that in your articles?

People who don't have anything of substance often hide behind cheap insults. I imagine you'll keep doing it, and perhaps you really do expect people to be impressed.

Lol, keep on believing the lies.

Meanwhile:

McCarthy makes AP reporter admit that there actually is evidence of Biden's corruption

 

[Rotadom]

I have no idea who you are and if you're this much of jerk in your replies to other people, but it doesn't really matter. You keep saying that there is abundant evidence for anyone who cares to look.

Hunter Biden does seem like a spiv, and I doubt anyone would be surprised if throws the family name about. Rich kids do that a lot and it often works. Internships, jobs, getting someone to agree to a meeting. There seems to have been a fair bit of that.

People probably wouldn't be surprised to find he's cheated on his taxes either. Plenty of people do, and plenty of them get away with it. If he did, he'll have to pay the price like anyone else.

There's the gun charge, but most of the people accusing him of wrongdoing don't want any paperwork when it comes to buying guns so they have limited mileage there.

However, the key point you are making is that President Biden has been involved in a scheme where he uses his influence on foreign entities and receives money through indirect means as a result. That's quite an accusation and, at this time, there is no evidence. You can find people talking about the odd email or WhatsApp message, but that's very thin. That's what's in these media articles you keep touting.

Processing money through a series of companies that provide nothing but sales or services would leave a trail a mile wide. In order to launder money, they would need to decouple the income from the source. Buy an apartment complex and rent out the units, that sort of thing. That way, the money coming in is external and clean. Seen any evidence of something like that in your articles?

People who don't have anything of substance often hide behind cheap insults. I imagine you'll keep doing it, and perhaps you really do expect people to be impressed.

He's a failed lawyer who has limited knowledge of most everything he yammers on about. His self-righteous indignation is his calling card.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Some evidence has come to light that not only was Joe involved, he actually hosted a business meeting at the VP's official residence with Hunter and his business partners while attempting to negotiate a new Burisma business deal with some oligarch from Kazakhstan who is now in prison for fraud and corruption.

https://media.allauthor.com/images/quotes/gif/john-fund-quote-rhetoric-is-cheap-evidence-comes-more.gif

less yappy yappy, more showy showy!

A common tactic of Biden defenders is conflate impeachment inquiry with impeachment.

"I didn't ask for water, I asked for a glass of water!"

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:679/1*ZKyhm51Ki58oX5bFgIPBSQ.gif

 

[Fuzzy1975]

lol how fast they forget....

Comshaw is looking for the checks, deposit tickets and the addresses of the banks and all of Joe’s Walmart receipts.

I’m really baffled that Barr allowed Hunter’s tax evasion charges to lapse. Sending a Biden corruption case to Delaware without oversight? The amount of tax dollars that Hunter evaded is just a percentage of how much money went through his hands. SAD! David Ignatius just gave the democrats the green light to dump Joe and print media will support it.

Barr is swamp. Everyone was so enamored of him they didn't want to talk about the fact that he's part of the DC swamp.

Look at how James Comey was praised by everyone. He's "fair," he's "unbiased," He "supports the law." And then we find out he's nothing of the kind.

Barr is a mirror twin of Comey.

Comshaw is in denial. It won't matter if the last remaining bank account (the one labeled "Biden") can be proven to be Joe's and that money was transferred to it from the shell companies, he'll continue to deny and make up reasons for that denial out of whole cloth. To the extent that he'll probably even claim that the money transfers can't be connected to the Burisma money because it might be for some other reason that's totally legit.

Poor Barr, but these two idiots were singing his praises not too long ago. Funny how things change....for Zealots......

 

[PaxNurgle]

Unbelievable!! The Media is supposed to scrutinize the WH not the other way around. Such arrogance.

Coming from the same guy who thought that, when Trump was in office, Trump should have the right to arrest journalists who dared criticize him or expose his wrong-doings on charges of "Fake News," and that all media that is not explicitly pro-Trump ought to be outlawed. That's rich...