SHOCK REPORT! U.S. Government in Possession of several UFOs (Intact and Partially Intact)

[coati]

You ever notice the dumbest comments come from people who make up silly derivative names for people they disagree with? It's like they can't come up with a coherent argument that actually addresses the topic being discussed so the revert to the mentality of a 12 year old on a school yard play ground.

If you want my attention say something smart or at least thought provoking. Behaving like a 12 year old jackass only makes you look like a 12 year old jackass.

Two things:

First, I did get your attention.

Second, I called you BlueDrivel in order to accurately describe the thesis of your thread. The word drivel means nonsense. The notion that the one of the leakiest governments in the world has been suppressing the revelation of ET flying saucers for decades is nonsense. UFOs are simply unidentified, until they become identified. Period. If they find extraterrestrial evidence on a sophisticated machine, there is no way the U.S. government could keep that a secret.

The world has enough foolish conspiracy theories floating around the internet. Yours is drivel, and it contributes to an already trashy information environment. Right-wing idiots take advantage of "liberal minded" do-gooders who think we have to provide equal time for drivel. With all the problems in the world today, I have no patience for drivel.

 

[butters]

John Kirby confirms unidentified arial objects causing problems but does not state they are alien in origin

“I mean, some of these phenomena we know have already had an impact on our training ranges for, you know, when pilots are out trying to do training in the air and they see these things, they’re not sure what they are and it can have an impact on their ability to perfect their skills. So it already had an impact here,” Kirby said, noting the goal is to have a better understanding of “what they are.”

The question at Monday’s briefing comes as the U.S. Senate is preparing to consider a bipartisan bill promoted by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) that will mandate disclosure of previously unreleased government UFO documents.

Next week, the House Oversight Committee is also set to hold a hearing on UFOs after a whistleblower claimed the U.S. military has portions of non-human aircraft in their possession. These claims are unconfirmed and the Pentagon hasn’t seen information that supports the claim.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/j...ining-theres-something-our-pilots-are-seeing/

 

[butters]

and let me just throw this out there: when the nations of the world all start getting antsy with threats of war between major players, the rumours of UFOs acted as a distraction... nothing will make the world leaders come together like potential threats from aliens.

today, with the problems of global warming, the economic stresses g.w brings with it, the pandemic, russian-Ukraine war+NATO expansion/involvement, Japan, Israel, Palestine, India, China and Taiwan, North Korea, the Sudan and other war/famine torn areas, and more, what better "distraction" than the ramping up of UFO/UAO stories online and in the media, with names being tossed around like Edgar Mitchell, the 14th man on the moon, and others whose names/ranks/jobs lend a sheen of credibility to their testaments?

you look at Mitchell: you'd think he would know what's what and his experiences in space outrank most people in the world (if you're not one of the other astronauts); he was also a party to debunking a lot of claims and conspiracies... and yet the things he is now saying are also being said by all manner of conspiracists over the world and remain unverified repetitions from other sources. I am not calling him a liar. I have seen no evidence to suggest he'd do that but then there's none supporting the stories he's offering as evidence to prove the existence of alien life, alien tech.

it's looking like a very good time to be flooding the airwaves, the public interest-span, with UFOlogy right about now.

 

[BluesDriver66]

WTF

An obsession with a conspiracy theory is never healthy.

You keep quoting all of these military people, but how are you hearing about these lights in the sky? Do you know them? have you spoken to them? Or are you just pulling things from other conspiracy theorists and repeating them as if they're established fact?

To quote your OP again.

Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin​

A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.

Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, with knowledge of these programs through their work in various agencies, have independently provided similar, corroborating information, both on and off the record.

Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors

There's no need to talk about blobs on cameras and lights in the sky. Congress can issue a subpoena to Grusch and his intelligence contacts, and ask about the spaceships in hangers. Specific information, not vague conjecture and hearsay. They are either there or they aren't. If they are, let's hear about them.

If you can come up with anything to support your screaming headline I would be really interested. So far you've avoided the question and it's eleven pages of nothing. I'll do my best to contain my hysteria in the meantime.

WTF are you talking about? Has this topic melted your brain? Talking to lights in the sky? Where the fuck did that come from? Are you high?

I make my opinions based on declassified government documents and testimony of government officials. Government officials like this one. Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer. I guess he's a wild eyed conspiracy theorist who talks to sky lights in your opinion.

‘Non-human intelligence’: Schumer proposes stunning new UFO legislation ​

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), along with a bipartisan group of five other senators, introduced extraordinary legislation on July 13, suggesting that the U.S. government or private contractors may secretly possess recovered UFOs and “biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence.”


According to the legislation, “non-human intelligence” is defined as “any sentient intelligent non-human lifeform, regardless of nature or ultimate origin which may be presumed responsible for” UFOs.

https://thehill.com/opinion/technol...chumer-proposes-stunning-new-ufo-legislation/

 

[BluesDriver66]

Two things:

First, I did get your attention.

Second, I called you BlueDrivel in order to accurately describe the thesis of your thread. The word drivel means nonsense. The notion that the one of the leakiest governments in the world has been suppressing the revelation of ET flying saucers for decades is nonsense. UFOs are simply unidentified, until they become identified. Period. If they find extraterrestrial evidence on a sophisticated machine, there is no way the U.S. government could keep that a secret.

The world has enough foolish conspiracy theories floating around the internet. Yours is drivel, and it contributes to an already trashy information environment. Right-wing idiots take advantage of "liberal minded" do-gooders who think we have to provide equal time for drivel. With all the problems in the world today, I have no patience for drivel.

No. You're a dumbass who thinks using childish insults to mask their profound ignorance of the topic being discussed is somehow appropriate in adult conversations.

You really need to pull your head out of the sand and face reality. Both houses of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans are calling for transparency on this issue and will hold hearings on this shortly. These are national security issues that need to be addressed. Your hysterical opposition to anything UFO even to the point of threatening our national security is foolish. Thankfully Senators and Congress people responsible for intelligence and national security are not as impulsive, clueless, and reckless as you are.

Key lawmakers warned at a House hearing on Tuesday that unidentified aerial phenomena – popularly known as UFOs – must be investigated and taken seriously as a potential threat to national security.​

​

‘The intelligence community has a serious duty to our taxpayers’​

There was bipartisan consensus that UFOs should be treated with seriousness and not simply dismissed as something in the realm of science fiction.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/17/politics/house-ufo-hearing-congress/index.html

Luna: Lawmakers aim to have ‘bipartisan’ UFO hearing in July ​

(NewsNation) — A Republican representative says lawmakers are planning a hearing on UFOs, which will tentatively be held sometime toward the end of July.


Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida told NewsNation on Wednesday the hearing is likely going to be bipartisan-led and in her home state.


This hearing comes after David Grusch, a former member of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, spoke to journalist Ross Coulthart about his time in Congress’ Unidentified Aerial Phenomena task force, which was recently renamed the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/luna-lawmakers-bipartisan-ufo-hearing-july/

 

[butters]

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment.pdf

(2) CLOSE OBSERVER.—The term ‘‘close ob15 server’’ means anyone who has come into close prox16 imity to unidentified anomalous phenomena or non17 human intelligence

(5) CONTROLLING AUTHORITY.—The term2 ‘‘controlling authority’’ means any Federal, State, or3 local government department, office, agency, com4 mittee, commission, commercial company, academic5 institution, or private sector entity in physical pos6 session of technologies of unknown origin or biologi7 cal evidence of non-human intelligence.

(10) LEGACY PROGRAM.—The term ‘‘legacy6 program’’ means all Federal, State, and local gov7 ernment, commercial industry, academic, and private8 sector endeavors to collect, exploit, or reverse engi9 neer technologies of unknown origin or examine bio10 logical evidence of living or deceased non-human in11 telligence that pre-dates the date of the enactment12 of this Act.

(14) PROSAIC ATTRIBUTION.—The term ‘‘pro7 saic attribution’’ means having a human (either for8 eign or domestic) origin and operating according to9 current, proven, and generally understood scientific10 and engineering principles and established laws-of11 nature and not attributable to non-human intel12 ligence.

(15) PUBLIC INTEREST.—The term ‘‘public in14 terest’’ means the compelling interest in the prompt15 public disclosure of unidentified anomalous phe16 nomena records for historical and Governmental17 purposes and for the purpose of fully informing the18 people of the United States about the history of the19 Federal Government’s knowledge and involvement20 surrounding unidentified anomalous phenomena.

(18) TECHNOLOGIES OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN.—11 The term ‘‘technologies of unknown origin’’ means12 any materials or meta-materials, ejecta, crash de13 bris, mechanisms, machinery, equipment, assemblies14 or sub-assemblies, engineering models or processes,15 damaged or intact aerospace vehicles, and damaged16 or intact ocean-surface and undersea craft associ17 ated with unidentified anomalous phenomena or in18 corporating science and technology that lacks prosaic19 attribution or known means of human manufacture.


what Schumer, and the bipartisan group are calling for is the declassification/release of material that should already have been declassified and released to public view (or have been declassified but still not released) in order to fully inform and educate the public regarding what/how/where/why when. It does NOT state OR IMPLY that these arial phenomena are extra terrestrial in nature but it says the public need to know and certain classifications have been too broad. Basically, Schumer's saying 'Let the people know' and not 'Let people know these are aliens and we've been hiding shit for years.' If it turns out that IS the case, then well and good... a certain level of transparency is essential to public trust. Does is mean the public will get to see material that's deemed still classified at too high a level to safely release? of course not. It's a sop, a sop with a point but a sop nonetheless. No matter how much material's made available to the public, driving a media free-lunch and turnstiles' worth of 'special guests' to discuss the issues, the conspiracy theorists will still believe what's being withheld HAS to be about aliens and no-one will be able to disabuse them of that notion.

for clarity, although they want things in the public eye, that doesn't necessarily mean that what is on record actually meets all or any of the criteria as listed below to encompass the exact definitions of unidentified anomalous phenomena



(21) UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHE4 NOMENA.—5 (A) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘‘unidentified6 anomalous phenomena’’ means any object oper7 ating or judged capable of operating in outer8 space, the atmosphere, ocean surfaces, or un9 dersea lacking prosaic attribution due to per10 formance characteristics and properties not pre11 viously known to be achievable based upon com12 monly accepted physical principles.

Unidentified13 anomalous phenomena are differentiated from14 both attributed and temporarily non-attributed15 objects by one or more of the following16 observables:17
(i) Instantaneous acceleration absent18 apparent inertia.19
(ii) Hypersonic velocity absent a ther20 mal signature and sonic shockwave.21
(iii) Transmedium (such as space-to22 ground and air-to-undersea) travel.23
(iv) Positive lift contrary to known24 aerodynamic principles.25
(v) Multispectral signature control.11BAG23A78 JDP S.L.C.1
(vi) Physical or invasive biological ef2 fects to close observers and the environ3 ment.4 (B)

INCLUSIONS.—The term ‘‘unidentified5 anomalous phenomena’’ includes what were pre6 viously described as—7 (i) flying discs;8 (ii) flying saucers;9 (iii) unidentified aerial phenomena;10 (iv) unidentified flying objects11 (UFOs); and12 (v) unidentified submerged objects13 (USOs).

 

[Bray123]

The reason why the government doesn't release this stuff is because they prefer to keep tabs on the nutjobs who think it means something.
Together with QAnon and various other cults, you can bet there are entire teams dedicated to monitoring people who frequent UFO forums and who sit on hilltops in the night overlooking air force bases watching for lights.

You are on the radar and you'll never escape.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Tim Burchett will be heading the next hearing in Congress on UAP/UFO phenomenon. He appears informed and up to the task. Interesting interview.


Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee explains that from what he has seen that there are UFOs that are 100% not from Earth. Including some that travel under the oceans. Rep. Burchett explains why congress must hold new hearings to hear testimonies from whistleblowers like David Grusch.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Still the obsession with fuzzy blobs, locking up pilots, and vague reports from 'top officials'. Sorry, TOP OFFICIALS!!!!

To quote your OP:

SHOCK REPORT! U.S. Government in Possession of several UFO's (Intact and Partially Intact)​

Had them for about 70 years according to you, but not a single word on what these UFOs actually look like. Nothing.

Your aliens are advanced enough to cross vast expanses of space, yet haven't worked out that flying in to the floor is a bad idea. They always crash away from populated areas, and spend their entire time in the United States, ignoring the rest of the world. It's like they've been watching the same bad movies as the UFO conspiracy theorists.

That they come so far with such advanced technology yet crash so often just boggles the mind when it comes to probabilities. They'd have to be visiting us in the millions.

 

[drusus]

No. You're a dumbass who thinks using childish insults to mask their profound ignorance of the topic being discussed is somehow appropriate in adult conversations.

You really need to pull your head out of the sand and face reality. Both houses of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans are calling for transparency on this issue and will hold hearings on this shortly. These are national security issues that need to be addressed. Your hysterical opposition to anything UFO even to the point of threatening our national security is foolish. Thankfully Senators and Congress people responsible for intelligence and national security are not as impulsive, clueless, and reckless as you are.

Key lawmakers warned at a House hearing on Tuesday that unidentified aerial phenomena – popularly known as UFOs – must be investigated and taken seriously as a potential threat to national security.​

​

‘The intelligence community has a serious duty to our taxpayers’​

There was bipartisan consensus that UFOs should be treated with seriousness and not simply dismissed as something in the realm of science fiction.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/17/politics/house-ufo-hearing-congress/index.html

Luna: Lawmakers aim to have ‘bipartisan’ UFO hearing in July ​

(NewsNation) — A Republican representative says lawmakers are planning a hearing on UFOs, which will tentatively be held sometime toward the end of July.


Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida told NewsNation on Wednesday the hearing is likely going to be bipartisan-led and in her home state.


This hearing comes after David Grusch, a former member of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, spoke to journalist Ross Coulthart about his time in Congress’ Unidentified Aerial Phenomena task force, which was recently renamed the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/luna-lawmakers-bipartisan-ufo-hearing-july/

Have you spoken to the people to have seen lights in the sky? The question was perfectly clear.

Transparency is something we would all appreciate. Your OP said that David Grusch has spoken first hand to people who have seen UFOs up close. Stored in a government facility according to him. If he and his friends testify to that under oath, it will be the validation of everything you claim. No need for generals or pilots talking about what they might have seen but can't properly explain. Direct, first-hand testimony about the spaceships in government hands, as described in your own post at the start of this thread.

That type of evidence would be compelling, but you've constantly avoided talking about it. Refusing to give a description of the craft or derived technology, even though you spend no end of time reading about them. Perhaps the hearings will come up with more than the usual handwaving from you and your UFO friends. I'll do my best to prepare for my world to be rocked, but right now, you're the one that's sounding hysterical.

 

[butters]

Tim Burchett will be heading the next hearing in Congress on UAP/UFO phenomenon. He appears informed and up to the task. Interesting interview.


Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee explains that from what he has seen that there are UFOs that are 100% not from Earth. Including some that travel under the oceans. Rep. Burchett explains why congress must hold new hearings to hear testimonies from whistleblowers like David Grusch.

tim burchett? oh lordy, lol

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/07/rep-tim-burchett-draft-trans-men

 

[butters]

https://nypost.com/2023/07/12/rep-tim-burchett-has-grim-take-after-access-to-ufo-footage/

Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., speculated extraterrestrial life forms could have technology that humanity “can’t handle” during an appearance on the “Event Horizon” podcast.

“If they’re out there, they’re out there, and if they have this kind of technology, then they could turn us into a charcoal briquette,” Burchett said.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...idence_a_completely_joke_and_a_nightmare.html

House Foreign Affairs Committee member Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) told FOX Business host Maria Bartiromo that the cocaine found in the White House along with any DNA evidence has been destroyed.

"To me, it seems like they would go in there with hazmat suits on, put it in a protective bag, take it to a lab for analysis. But instead they blew the thing up. It's a complete joke and a nightmare and it really looks bad upon this White House, the Biden family again, and our Secret Service.

 

[BluesDriver66]

tim burchett? oh lordy, lol

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/07/rep-tim-burchett-draft-trans-men

He's a Republican. What did you expect?

 

[butters]

on newsmax, you know, that piece of crappy disinformation show that got dropped all over the place, sued, and rabid trumpies, he said:
https://www.newsweek.com/ufo-crash-100-percent-covered-us-government-congressman-says-1807498

"I do 100% [believe the U.S government is covering up] since 1947 Roswell, [Mexico]... the military said we've recovered a saucer and then the next day they dropped this poor officer out and claim he holds up a piece of a hot air balloon and says, 'No in fact it was a hot air balloon,' which apparently was a top secret program at the time and they've never would have disclosed it in any way,"

so fox, newsmax, realclear politics... says a lot about the shit this guy speaks and to what audience: magats

 

[butters]

He's a Republican. What did you expect?

nothing better, but you are promoting his words as something we should be paying attention to.

He appears informed and up to the task.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Have you spoken to the people to have seen lights in the sky? The question was perfectly clear.

Transparency is something we would all appreciate. Your OP said that David Grusch has spoken first hand to people who have seen UFOs up close. Stored in a government facility according to him. If he and his friends testify to that under oath, it will be the validation of everything you claim. No need for generals or pilots talking about what they might have seen but can't properly explain. Direct, first-hand testimony about the spaceships in government hands, as described in your own post at the start of this thread.

That type of evidence would be compelling, but you've constantly avoided talking about it. Refusing to give a description of the craft or derived technology, even though you spend no end of time reading about them. Perhaps the hearings will come up with more than the usual handwaving from you and your UFO friends. I'll do my best to prepare for my world to be rocked, but right now, you're the one that's sounding hysterical.

Dude. You need to get a grip. You're all over place. I don't know WTF you're talking about lights in sky. I'm not not sure you know either. Concerning what these UFOs look like wasn't in report. Neither was what they sound like, what they smell like, what they feel like, or what they taste like. At some point I'm sure detailed descriptions will be released. Be patient. Nobody likes a premature release.

 

[LLCox]

You would think with everyone having a camera in their pocket now days there would be more UFO vids.

 

[BluesDriver66]

nothing better, but you are promoting his words as something we should be paying attention to.

Considering he'll be leading the UFO hearing he is definitely one to pay attention to whether you approve of his pro Corporal Klinger views or not.

He seems pretty clear on the issues UFO transparency.

 

[butters]

Considering he'll be leading the UFO hearing he is definitely one to pay attention to whether you approve of his pro Corporal Klinger views or not.

He seems pretty clear on the issues UFO transparency.

no, i'll pay attention to what information is released, not some fucknut putting out crap like 'they could turn the earth into a charcoal briquette' and stirring the kind of ill-informed controversy-making aliens aliens aliens everywhere shit to already ill-informed, disinformed, misinformed trumpies

 

[butters]

and leave Kilinger out of this, he was great

 

[BluesDriver66]

You would think with everyone having a camera in their pocket now days there would be more UFO vids.

There's tons of them. Just go to Youtube and do a search. There are channels dedicated to posting nothing but this kind of content. Don't expect anything to compelling though. Blurry lights in the sky type stuff.

 

[LLCox]

There's tons of them. Just go to Youtube and do a search. There are channels dedicated to posting nothing but this kind of content. Don't expect anything to compelling though. Blurry lights in the sky type stuff.

That's what I saying. I've seen all the blurry stuff. I've read some great stories. You would think some pics would have been smuggled out of Area51 by now.

 

[BluesDriver66]

no, i'll pay attention to what information is released, not some fucknut putting out crap like 'they could turn the earth into a charcoal briquette' and stirring the kind of ill-informed controversy-making aliens aliens aliens everywhere shit to already ill-informed, disinformed, misinformed trumpies

He has been privy to classified materials. He knows of what he speaks. Check out the interview. He's not some chicken little trying to frighten everyone. He seems to be sincerely seeking answers. No one gains any political advantage from talking about UFOs or catering to the non-existent UFO voting block.

 

[butters]

He has been privy to classified materials. He knows of what he speaks. Check out the interview. He's not some chicken little trying to frighten everyone. He seems to be sincerely seeking answers. No one gains any political advantage from talking about UFOs or catering to the non-existent UFO voting block.

so has mtg. and look at her record.

 

[BluesDriver66]

That's what I saying. I've seen all the blurry stuff. I've read some great stories. You would think some pics would have been smuggled out of Area51 by now.

From what I've heard these Black UFO programs spend more money on security than they do the actual research and reverse engineering of the UFOs.