January 6th Prosecution vs. Trump - Loving Updates

[KeithD]

That has not stopped “fake news” from their “alternate “”facts”” News that starts in Tweets is never news! Unless you are Giuliani of Trump, then those are the facts! Russia loved this !!

We are stuck on a cycle of American stupidity.

Where’s Walter Cronkite for THE facts to debate??

Off topic. This Swiftboating of Hutchinson's testimony is empty until/unless others step up and testify under oath. I'm not letting the board Trumpettes slide off this FACT. That's the answer to every single attempt by the board Trumpettes to undermine Hutchinson's testimony. It holds until/unless others testify otherwise under oath as she has.

 

[butters]

In a tweet on Wednesday, Giuliani claimed Hutchinson couldn’t have known he asked for a pardon because she wasn’t in the room. “The January 6 Witch Hunt Cabal has now exceeded even its prior fraudulent,” Giuliani wrote via Raw Story. “The last witness was a reckless liar. Contrary to her false testimony she was never present when I asked for a pardon.”

However, realizing that he just admitted to requesting a pardon, Giuliani deleted the tweet and attempted to massage his remarks by saying, actually, he told Trump he didn’t need one. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

To be clear, what Giuliani may have done here is attempt to discredit a witness by saying, “Nuh uh, she wasn’t even in the room when I totally did the thing she’s accusing me of.” Classic Rudy.

https://uproxx.com/viral/rudy-giuliani-cassidy-hutchinson-pardon-deleted-tweet/

 

[KeithD]

News: At least one of the “witness tampering” messages Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) disclosed at the end of the hearing – warnings by unnamed Trump allies to stay loyal to the former president – were sent to Hutchinson, according to a source close to the matter.

https://punchbowl.news/newsletter/

Well, of course it was. That's why her testimony session was rushed onto Tuesday.

The Trump people are mobsters. They need to be in prison and the board Trumpettes are part of their camp.

 

[butters]

We also have to remember that there are at least a few SS who are more devoted to He The Orange than they should be.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...pc=U531&cvid=33774ee333704332e5f7a6f63bccc5b5

Leonnig then described the general political bent of the Secret Service during this time.

“There was a very large contingent of Donald Trump’s detail who were personally cheering for [Joe] Biden to fail. And some of them even took to their personal media accounts to cheer on the insurrection and the individuals riding up to the Capitol as patriots. That is problematic,” Leonnig said.

“I’m not saying that Tony Ornato or Bobby Engel did that,” she noted, “but they are viewed as being aligned with Donald Trump, which cuts against them. However, if they testify under oath [that] this is what happened, I think that’s going to be important, because Cassidy Hutchinson can only say what she heard happened.”

 

[Pad_Foot]

“She was never present when I asked for a pardon,” Giuliani wrote.

Lawyer??? He needs to run away and shut up!!

He had dinner with the thugs behind the Ukrainian fiasco

He is a parasite, but he’s gonna be Trump’s undoing after he finishes flaying himself to death

 

[rockcasbah]

Sorry kids, but someone saying they heard someone say something about someone who saw Trump get pissed off about people not driving him to the protest isnt a smoking gun.

It’s called hearsay, which is legalese for gossip.

 

[Sugar Baby Wanted]

Well, of course it was. That's why her testimony session was rushed onto Tuesday.

The Trump people are mobsters. They need to be in prison and the board Trumpettes are part of their camp.

Which party is using the FBI to arrest political opponents for no reason and throw them in jail? Mobsters? Dang right - The Dems are rounding up anyone who questions the fraudulent 2020 election. What are they afraid of?

 

[ll74]

Sorry kids, but someone saying they heard someone say something about someone who saw Trump get pissed off about people not driving him to the protest isnt a smoking gun.

It’s called hearsay, which is legalese for gossip.

The main statement of interest is that he knew they were armed.

 

[rockcasbah]

You mean some people are saying they think he knew, right?

There is a difference.

 

[ll74]

You mean some people are saying they think he knew, right?

There is a difference.

No, some people heard him directly say that he knew and that he didn't care.

 

[rockcasbah]

They say they think he knew and they say they think he didn’t care.

That might be enough in a civil case for negligence (balance of probabilities), except he did issue a call to go home.

It wasnt enough for Impeachment.

And is way too low for a criminal conviction.

Isnt this just pre midterm political theatre?

 

[ll74]

They say they think he knew and they say they think he didn’t care.

That might be enough in a civil case for negligence (balance of probabilities), except he did issue a call to go home.

It wasnt enough for Impeachment.

And is way too low for a criminal conviction.

Isnt this just pre midterm political theatre?

They said that he directly referenced them being armed in the SUV and even wanted metal detectors removed.

You certainly can see the testimony as whatever you want. The DoJ should receive any criminal referrals over the next month.

 

[oggbashan]

Isnt this just pre midterm political theatre?

Isn't everything in US politics pre-midterm political theatre?

 

[jaF0]

Which party is using the FBI to arrest political opponents for no reason and throw them in jail? Mobsters? Dang right - The Dems are rounding up anyone who questions the fraudulent 2020 election. What are they afraid of?

Dam yur dum.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Which party is using the FBI to arrest political opponents for no reason and throw them in jail? Mobsters? Dang right - The Dems are rounding up anyone who questions the fraudulent 2020 election. What are they afraid of?

I guess your shitting your pants right now then eh?> FBI is coming for you

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Isn't everything in US politics pre-midterm political theatre?

Yes, that’s pretty much true with regard to this thread.

 

[jomar]

exactly, the testi-lying going on around Jan 6th is ridiculous

You need to broaden your resources. 1. She cited what she was told. Hearsay, but allowed in this case. If agents who were actually there testify otherwise then fine. 2. trump was not in the vehicle you posted a picture of.

 

[rockcasbah]

Isn't everything in US politics pre-midterm political theatre?

That’s what it looks like, eh Ogg?

Americans aren’t happy unless they have something to fight about.

It’s like Israel vs Palestine, with fatter combattants.

 

[oggbashan]

That’s what it looks like, eh Ogg?

Americans aren’t happy unless they have something to fight about.

It’s like Israel vs Palestine, with fatter combattants.

In the UK, we don't get so excited, despite media hype, about elections.

 

[rockcasbah]

In the UK, we don't get so excited, despite media hype, about elections.

Same here in Canada.

We’re pretty mellow compared to them.

Maybe it’s the legal pot.

 

[oggbashan]

Same here in Canada.

We’re pretty mellow compared to them.

Maybe it’s the legal pot.

In the UK at least, whether Conservatives or Labour get elected, most legislation is not controversial. Most are passed with all-party support. Even the ones that are disputed are argued on the facts, not partisan rhetoric.

Our legislators see shades of grey. US politicians seem only to have black or white. If one suggests it, the other will ferociously oppose.

 

[rockcasbah]

In the UK at least, whether Conservatives or Labour get elected, most legislation is not controversial. Most are passed with all-party support. Even the ones that are disputed are argued on the facts, not partisan rhetoric.

Our legislators see shades of grey. US politicians seem only to have black or white. If one suggests it, the other will ferociously oppose.

Much like the American posters here… they seem to prefer the fight to solving the problem.

I’ve always found it bizzarre.

 

[KeithD]

Which party is using the FBI to arrest political opponents for no reason and throw them in jail? Mobsters? Dang right - The Dems are rounding up anyone who questions the fraudulent 2020 election. What are they afraid of?

Trump wanted the FBI to do so when he was president--he constantly demanded in the open that this be done--and the current FBI is dragging its feet--eighteen months after an obvious coup attempt, and the perpetrator is still walking free and openly promoting a coup.

You and your premise are empty--and laughable.

 

[butters]

Which party is using the FBI to arrest political opponents for no reason and throw them in jail? Mobsters? Dang right - The Dems are rounding up anyone who questions the fraudulent 2020 election. What are they afraid of?

meanwhile, in the real world...

 

[butters]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The congressional panel investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol attack may make a criminal referral to the Justice Department recommending that anybody who tried to influence testimony be prosecuted, Representative Liz Cheney told ABC News in a report broadcast on Thursday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/j...pc=U531&cvid=ebe35ab4160d42af9bbe7e71dc50c4cc