far-right podcaster and father arrested had machine gun cache

[HisArpy]

surely a fully automatic machine gun can kill hundreds of people at a time. doesn't that count as a wmm?

It has to have someone operating it, and targets to hit before that can happen. The "machine gun" can't do it on its own.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It has to have someone operating it, and targets to hit before that can happen. The "machine gun" can't do it on its own.

That's 100% true carbon water boy.

However it is illegal for a person to be in possession of a machine-gun, and that was what the story was about...why I am not surprised you missed it.

 

[icanhelp1]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...-in-basement/ar-AATLRDI?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

when you mouth-off online, encouraging violence to figures in authority, don't be surprised if you make a few lists and get monitored.

Pretty simple, if found guilty of violating state and fed statutes then like the old saying goes " don't do the crime if you can't do the time".

 

[Lazaran]

For your information; it's LEGAL to convert a semi-auto to full-auto if you have a Class III FFL license.

You really do need to sit down and STFU when it comes to US laws because you very obviously don't have a clue about them.



The rest of your claptrap post is just more of your insane and nonsensical bullshit.

Yeah, IF you're a MANUFACTURER.

You really do need to sit down and STFU when it comes to US laws because you very obviously don't have a clue avout them.

*nods* AND *chuckles*

 

[Dribble]

Yeah, IF you're a MANUFACTURER.

You really do need to sit down and STFU when it comes to US laws because you very obviously don't have a clue avout them.

*nods* AND *chuckles*

But he is a lawyer...

 

[GothTalk]

That's 100% true carbon water boy.

However it is illegal for a person to be in possession of a machine-gun, and that was what the story was about...why I am not surprised you missed it.

Fucking moron....

Yeah, IF you're a MANUFACTURER.

No...... if you fill out the paperwork and pay the tax.

You really do need to sit down and STFU when it comes to US laws because you very obviously don't have a clue about them.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Hmmmmmmmm

"The pair, Joseph Raymond Berger, 67, and Joseph Paul Berger, 32, were arrested last week and charged with multiple firearms offenses including possessing machine guns, possessing non-registered firearms and possessing non-registered silencers."

 

[GothTalk]

Hmmmmmmmm

"The pair, Joseph Raymond Berger, 67, and Joseph Paul Berger, 32, were arrested last week and charged with multiple firearms offenses including possessing machine guns, possessing non-registered firearms and possessing non-registered silencers."

Again, just because they might have been in some sort of violation....doesn't make machine guns illegal to poses in the USA.

Many civilians here possess select fire and belt fed "machine guns" here in the USA.

Same with suppressors, short barrel shotguns/rifles and destructive devices like grenade launchers.

You can go on youtube and find hours and hours of people 100% legally using these weapons.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Hmmmmmmmm

"The pair, Joseph Raymond Berger, 67, and Joseph Paul Berger, 32, were arrested last week and charged with multiple firearms offenses including possessing machine guns, possessing non-registered firearms and possessing non-registered silencers."

Quit bringing logic into the mix. His head will explode.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Quit bringing logic into the mix. His head will explode.

*chuckles*...

 

[Lazaran]

.
Emobo thinks because a very limited number of individuals, (mostly law enforcement and certain gun manufacturers), are permitted to possess full auto weapons and to convert semi-auto weapons to full auto, that it is "legal".

I guarantee Emobo isn't permitted to possess full auto weapons OR to convert semi-auto to full auto. And if it was "legal" and easy to get permitted, you KNOW Emobo would have the permits. Fees certainly wouldn't be an issue for $Emobo$. But for some reason $Emobo$ doesn't have the permits.

Why is that ^ ???

(We know why)

*nods* AND *chuckles*

 

[pecksniff]

Why??

Because the man arrested is the kind of asshole who might plausibly have used his machine guns, on LEOs and civilians.

 

[pecksniff]

This.

The question at trial then becomes if the broken laws in question were valid.

I doubt there is any in play that has not already survived a 2A challenge.

 

[GothTalk]

Quit bringing logic into the mix. His head will explode.

What logic?

He's point blank wrong, check the ATF's website, be less ignorant for once in your life.

 

[butters]

I suppose I'm a gun nut. I have several dozen guns. I think if you break any of the various gun laws, you should be held accountable. We have laws, and the laws should be enforced - on gun issues, on immigration, on protesting... on everything. Don't like the law; change it.

If this guy had illegal guns the answer is to put him in jail, not to further restrict my rights.

indeed. no one's suggesting otherwise that i can see

Yeah, IF you're a MANUFACTURER.

You really do need to sit down and STFU when it comes to US laws because you very obviously don't have a clue about them.

*nods* AND *chuckles*

so harpy's trying to lecture me on the legalities of possessing a machine gun or altering another weapon so it is then classified as a machine gun, whilst entirely ignoring the whole unregistered charge i quoted in the OP... sounds about right. what a dickhead. i didn't know, so went and looked up the information, myself, as is my wont on any issues i'm unfamiliar with. Not only that, his constant attempts to decry my knowledge of issues when i'm actually posting the stated legal positions of people who actually DO know (like prosecutors, judges, or law-enforcement officials) is simply juvenile. Nothing new there then.

hey, timmeh: if you want to look down on someone, you need to be standing on a wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy taller box first.


https://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/rpt/2009-R-0020.htm

FEDERAL LAW AND MACHINE GUNS

Federal law defines a machine gun as “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger., and any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled (26 USC § 5845(b), 27 CFR §§ 478.11 & 479.1” This definition includes the frame or receiver, any part or combination of parts designed and intended, solely and exclusively, for use in converting a weapon into a machine gun1). It does not include “antique firearms” (26 USC § 5845(a) & (g)).

Since 1934, Congress has strictly regulated the manufacture, transfer, and possession of machine guns. The firearms are regulated by the 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA) (26 USC § 5801 et seq.) and the 1968 Gun Control Act as amended by the 1986 Firearms Owners' Protection Act (18 USC § 921 et seq.).

Violations

Under federal law, it is illegal to do any of the following with regard to machine guns:

1. engage in business as a manufacturer, importer, or dealer without registering or paying a special occupational tax;

2. make, receive, possess, transport, deliver, or transfer the firearm in violation of the NFA;

3. receive a firearm not identified by a serial number as required;

4. obliterate, remove, change, or alter the firearm's serial number; or

5. make or cause to be made any false entry on any application, return, or required record (26 USC § 5861).

STATE LAW

State law defines a machine gun as any weapon, loaded or unloaded, that shoots, is designed to shoot or can be readily restored to shoot automatically more than one projectile by a single function of the trigger without manual reloading. This definition includes any part or combination of parts designed to assemble, or convert a weapon into, a machine gun (CGS § 53-202(a)).

With limited exceptions, the law requires anyone who owns a machine gun to register it with DPS within 24 hours of acquiring it and annually thereafter on July 1 (CGS § 53-202(g)). The registration requirement does not apply to machine guns (1) manufactured for sale or transfer to the U.S. government, states, territories, or political subdivisions or (2) rendered inoperable by welding.

There is a presumption that a machine gun is possessed for an offensive purpose if it is:

1. located on premises not owned or rented as a business or residence by the person possessing it,

2. in the possession of an unnaturalized foreign born person,

3. possessed by anyone convicted of a violent crime,

4. not registered as required, or

5. when empty or loaded projectiles are found in the immediate vicinity of the firearm (CGS § 53-202(d)).

 

[GothTalk]

.
Emobo thinks because a very limited number of individuals, (mostly law enforcement and certain gun manufacturers), are permitted to possess full auto weapons and to convert semi-auto weapons to full auto, that it is "legal".

Not limited and not to law enforcement and certain manufacturers.

Ted Nugent for example owns quite a few along with many other common folks, celebs and security contractors.

.
I guarantee Emobo isn't permitted to possess full auto weapons OR to convert semi-auto to full auto.

I've had an maintained a few FFL's since 2009. Dealer, collector, firearms and destructive devices. I did import/export for a few years while in Texas, and considered manufacturing but don't currently have it. Bet I could get it if I wanted though.

Why is it you seem to think it's some over the top ordeal only good COMRADES who are allowed access to these weapons??

Check the 2nd Amendment bro, there is not "except when (D)'eez like lazzy get their fee fees in a bunch!!" anywhere in the amendment.

.
And if it was "legal" and easy to get permitted, you KNOW Emobo would have the permits. Fees certainly wouldn't be an issue for $Emobo$. But for some reason $Emobo$ doesn't have the permits.

Why is that ^ ???

(We know why)

*nods* AND *chuckles*

Fees are just a ideological issue. It shouldn't cost anything to exercise your civil rights.

Laz, you, like most leftist who've never so much as touched a gun in your life, don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[GothTalk]

Because the man arrested is the kind of asshole who might plausibly have used his machine guns, on LEOs and civilians.

Doesn't have anything to do with charging people for their right to own, poses or manufacture guns being total bullshit.

If they have probable cause that someone is going to hurt others, they have reason to go after them.

Having guns is not a reason.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

indeed. no one's suggesting otherwise that i can see


so harpy's trying to lecture me on the legalities of possessing a machine gun or altering another weapon so it is then classified as a machine gun, whilst entirely ignoring the whole unregistered charge i quoted in the OP... sounds about right. what a dickhead. i didn't know, so went and looked up the information, myself, as is my wont on any issues i'm unfamiliar with. Not only that, his constant attempts to decry my knowledge of issues when i'm actually posting the stated legal positions of people who actually DO know (like prosecutors, judges, or law-enforcement officials) is simply juvenile. Nothing new there then.

hey, timmeh: if you want to look down on someone, you need to be standing on a wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy taller box first.


https://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/rpt/2009-R-0020.htm

*chuckles*

This will keep BoBo's fingers occupied for a time, twisting and turning logic around to explain how he is right....

Good job Butters!!

I think I just had an epiphany....I think BoBo missed his calling, he should have tried to become a press secretary....

 

[GothTalk]

*chuckles*

This will keep BoBo's fingers occupied for a time, twisting and turning logic around to explain how he is right....

Nope, super easy.

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center...ederal-firearms-and-explosives-licenses-types

 

[pecksniff]

Doesn't have anything to do with charging people for their right to own, poses or manufacture guns being total bullshit.

If they have probable cause that someone is going to hurt others, they have reason to go after them.

Having guns is not a reason.

Look, this is the kind of story you'd make up to illustrate why gun control is a good idea.

 

[GothTalk]

Look, this is the kind of story you'd make up to illustrate why gun control is a good idea.

Again, having guns has nothing to do with it.

 

[Lazaran]

.
Yeah, Emobo should definitely get a SOT2 so he can manufacture machine guns for Law Enforcement and Government sale/use.

 

[pecksniff]

Again, having guns has nothing to do with it.

The government cited a podcast episode of Alt-Right Armory in which Berger, the host, said that a “white man with a rifle can be very dangerous to the system indeed if he has the right motivation”.

Prosecutors also claimed that Berger “extolls the values of police murderer Eric Frein and fantasizes about the cost that could be incurred by a group of people like Frein”, referring to the 2014 murder of a Pennsylvania state trooper in an ambush. Frein was later captured, convicted and sentenced to death.

The defendant, prosecutors said, encouraged listeners to target “not only police, but “legislators, lobbyists and leftwing billionaires” for assassination with explosives.

Berger goes by the moniker “GlockDoctor1488” – 1488 being a popular coded signal among neo-Nazis, with “14” referencing the slogan “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children” and “88” standing in for “Heil Hitler”.

In 2019, Berger reportedly disrupted an event at a public library in Philadelphia where then Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, was speaking. At the event, Berger reportedly shouted: “Fuck you, you anti-white piece of shit! You will not replace us!”

Nobody sensible wants this kind of maniac running around loose, and we really don't want him loose and armed.

 

[GothTalk]

.
Yeah, Emobo should definitely get a SOT2 so he can manufacture machine guns for Law Enforcement and Government sale/use.

I can get pretty much whatever I want.

Why not?? It's paperwork and some pocket change.

Nobody sensible wants this kind of maniac running around loose, and we really don't want him loose and armed.

Again, his having guns shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Guns should not be illegal nor kept for elites behind any taxes.

 

[pecksniff]

Guns should not be illegal nor kept for elites behind any taxes.

Prohibition has been abolished, but federal excise tax on liquor remains constitutional. Likewise with any gun tax.