Eileen Gu

Par for the course. We’ve outsourced manufacturing to China for a lot of goods. Why not some Olympic athletes?
 
Par for the course. We’ve outsourced manufacturing to China for a lot of goods. Why not some Olympic athletes?

I have no problem with her deciding to give up her citizenship and competing under her new country's identity. I have a problem with her wanting to live here and feast off of our freedoms and ideals. She wants to be Chinese...then live there under their rules. Support a country that believes genocide is OK. There is no middle ground here. She made her choice. She should only get a 2 week visitation VIsa just like the rest of the World. She is no longer an American and does not deserve the rights of Americans
 
I have no problem with her deciding to give up her citizenship and competing under her new country's identity. I have a problem with her wanting to live here and feast off of our freedoms and ideals. She wants to be Chinese...then live there under their rules. Support a country that believes genocide is OK. There is no middle ground here. She made her choice. She should only get a 2 week visitation VIsa just like the rest of the World. She is no longer an American and does not deserve the rights of Americans
OK, how about the Americans who chose to remain in Afghanistan? Should they also be stripped of their citizenship?
 
Did she piss on Old Glory or something?

She gave up her American citizenship at age 15 to compete for her mother's country. Totally her right. But she also wants to live here and further her modeling career here. Can't have it both ways. If you give up your citizenship...which is your right...then don't ask to be treated differently than any other foreigner. China does not allow dual citizenship...and she must be a Chinese citizen to compete via their rules.
 
OK, how about the Americans who chose to remain in Afghanistan? Should they also be stripped of their citizenship?

She gave up her citizenship...it wasn't taken away. Don't be stupid.
 
There is also Becky Hammon, who became a Russian citizen to join the Russian Olympic team. And some US citizens with Mexican ancestry played for Mexico. Dual citizenship is fine with me. The Olympics are still sinking. Sites with reliably cold and snowy weather are becoming harder to book, and global travel will become too expensive for such a huge operation. Pro sports are becoming unaffordable for more nations.
 
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What about Zhu Yi???

Regardless; I wouldn't mind a rule that stated you had to be a citizen and live and train for four years in the country you're representing leading up to the Olympics.

That ^ would expose some inconvenient truths about international sports and global conditions.

*nods*
 
On the other hand, U.S.-born, but skating for China, figure skater Zhu Yi has helped the U.S. to (barely) take the silver in the figure skating team event.
 
On the other hand, U.S.-born, but skating for China, figure skater Zhu Yi has helped the U.S. to (barely) take the silver in the figure skating team event.

And apparently she's getting savaged by Chinese media.

Although that ^ still isn't as bad as the twice impeached, one term, former traitor in chief putting a bullseye on the backs of ALL Asian Americans.

SAD!!!
 
And apparently she's getting savaged by Chinese media.

Although that ^ still isn't as bad as the twice impeached, one term, former traitor in chief putting a bullseye on the backs of ALL Asian Americans.

SAD!!!

Savaging her is, of course, off the mark. The Chinese Olympic Committee picked her to compete. She didn't come up through the Chinese national championship system. She wasn't demanding the right to skate. Her last win was as a novice.
 
She gave up her American citizenship at age 15 to compete for her mother's country. Totally her right. But she also wants to live here and further her modeling career here. Can't have it both ways. If you give up your citizenship...which is your right...then don't ask to be treated differently than any other foreigner. China does not allow dual citizenship...and she must be a Chinese citizen to compete via their rules.


I think it's actually more about furthering her modeling career and her overall celebrity in China, where she's apparently become one of their biggest athletic stars. There's no way any American, other than possibly a female figure skater, could achieve that sort of fame in a Winter Olympic sport.

Olympic free agency has been going on for a long time. I'm old enough to remember when Dorothy Hamill's main rival was another American girl who decided to start competing for the Netherlands (the home country of one of her parents) because she thought it would be easier to get international experience as a young teen without having to battle to get onto Team USA. And a lot of the better American prospects in men's soccer have one or both parents who are immigrants, and have to choose which country to play for internationally.

What's unusual about Gu's situation is that it was pretty clearly a choice based on what would make her the most money. Bottom line is a gold medalist in freestyle skiing is only going to get so rich in the United States. Being a Chinese-American who beats the United States will make her legendary in China, even if she understandably doesn't actually want to live there.
 
I think it's actually more about furthering her modeling career and her overall celebrity in China, where she's apparently become one of their biggest athletic stars. There's no way any American, other than possibly a female figure skater, could achieve that sort of fame in a Winter Olympic sport.

You don't think Lindsey Vonn qualifies?
 
Savaging her is, of course, off the mark. The Chinese Olympic Committee picked her to compete. She didn't come up through the Chinese national championship system. She wasn't demanding the right to skate. Her last win was as a novice.

I should have said "social media" for clarity.

Apparently it got so bad Chinese censors had to step in to stop the vitriol.

I'm guessing some of the Chinese public think she tanked on purpose to help the United States due to her divided loyalty.

That ^ will always come with the territory for mercenaries.

In the end nobody trusts them, and they become persons without a country.

Tragic.

:rolleyes:
 
She is 100% a piece of shit.

Your comment is stupid and vicious. She was picked by the Chinese aged 15. Playing a sport, even a minority sport has no impact on one's official nationality.

Given her parentage on the one hand and her birthplace on the other, of course she has mixed loyalties, as do millions of others.

Your attitude and the po faced sneering of Lazaran are equally contemptible. Take the dual and triple nationals out of most sports then try to pick a national team.
 
Sounds like she has dual citizenship, your opinion notwithstanding.

According to China...this is not true. If she has a dual citizenship...many of my issues disappear. But according to China, she gave up her US citizenship. If this is true...cool. people have that right. But then they must follow the rules every other non-citizen must follow. Don't understand why this is an issue? Maybe the Republicans on this site are correct? You don't believe in following our immigration policy? I believe in following the law even if I disagree with it. No special rights should be awarded if people give up their citizenship for financial reasons.
 
Your comment is stupid and vicious. She was picked by the Chinese aged 15. Playing a sport, even a minority sport has no impact on one's official nationality.

Given her parentage on the one hand and her birthplace on the other, of course she has mixed loyalties, as do millions of others.

Your attitude and the po faced sneering of Lazaran are equally contemptible. Take the dual and triple nationals out of most sports then try to pick a national team.

No it isn't stupid. According to the Chinese Government...which I agree has a history of lying...but why would they lie about this? According to the Chinese Government, she gave up her US citizenship. The Chinese Government does not issue dual citizenships. Ever. Now...this was her right. People are allowed to give up their citizenship. But if they do...they are no longer a dual-citizen either. It doesn't work that way. If she gave up her citizenship...and does not have a dual-citizenship, which China does not allow...then she must follow the rules any other non-citizen must follow. She does not think she needs to do this. Therein, lies my issue
 
Sounds like she has dual citizenship, your opinion notwithstanding.

China doesn’t allow dual citizenship. Gu said she gave up her US citizenship to raise skiing awareness in her mother’s country of origin.

Gu is a world class freestyle skier and international fashion model so her choice smells like a calculated move or maybe even a backroom deal that’s gonna make her a whole lot of monay.
 
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