What good is the filibuster anyway?

[Cubantripod]

I Never did it heal tensions or resolve conflict. There is not a single episode at which we can look back and say, "Thank God there was the filibuster, or the country would have been torn apart!"

It forces you to have to work with the other side if you want to get something meaningful done.

 

[GothTalk]

It forces you to have to work with the other side if you want to get something meaningful done.

Which is exactly why (D)'eez want it gone.

 

[pecksniff]

But it now serves a purpose.

One Democrats very much enjoyed when they weren't in power and will no doubt use extensively again in the future.

They never used it extensively in the past, not since the 1950s when Southern Dems were using it to preserve Jim Crow.

 

[JohnnySavage]

The filibuster is not meant to do much of anything. It just kind of happened.

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Please stop quoting the entire fucking wikipedia. Try using you own thoughts and words. For once.

 

[JohnnySavage]

King Orfeo

 

[GothTalk]

They never used it extensively in the past, not since the 1950s when Southern Dems were using it to preserve Jim Crow.

You can lie to yourself with that pile of flaming bullshit but you can't lie to me, I know for a fact otherwise.

 

[pecksniff]

You can lie to yourself with that pile of flaming bullshit but you can't lie to me, I know for a fact otherwise.

How have the Dems used the filibuster since the 1950s, then?

 

[YDB95]

How have the Dems used the filibuster since the 1950s, then?

Don't forget, the deplorables think history ended in 1964. So "since the 1950s" is only five years.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[GothTalk]

How have the Dems used the filibuster since the 1950s, then?

Extensively and enthusiastically, when they are the minority.

Don't forget, the deplorables think history ended in 1964. So "since the 1950s" is only five years.

No they think institutionalized racism ended in 1964, becaise facts.

 

[GothTalk]

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That's democrats summed up so well.

Excellent and spot.on accurate cartoon.

 

[Wrong Element]

They never used it extensively in the past, not since the 1950s when Southern Dems were using it to preserve Jim Crow.

Nobody used it much until recent decades, because before then a filibuster had to be maintained in person and it brought all Senate business to a halt. That's the reason it became associated with Jim Crow-era senators — it was something they cared enough about to where they were willing to hang out in the chamber for days on end.

The system we have today is certainly not the one that existed for the huge majority of American history, let alone one that was either anticipated or desired by the Framers, despite what Joe Manchin (Idiot-WV) may think.

 

[pecksniff]

Nobody used it much until recent decades, because before then a filibuster had to be maintained in person and it brought all Senate business to a halt. That's the reason it became associated with Jim Crow-era senators — it was something they cared enough about to where they were willing to hang out in the chamber for days on end.

There was even one who spend hours reading names out of a telephone book. (Remember those?)

Nothing in the filibuster rules says you have to say anything relevant.

 

[ll74]

As long as they can phone it in, no one is required to put in any effort to oppose legislation.

Make them work. 41 on the floor at all times during a filibuster.

I'm surprised Democrats arent offering this up as compromise

 

[LittleDixie]

"Bottom line is very simple. The ideologues in the Senate want to turn what the Founding Fathers called the cooling saucer of democracy into the rubber stamp of dictatorship. We will not let them! They want - because they can't get their way on every judge to change the rules in mid-stream; to wash away 200 years of history. They want to make this country into a banana republic where if your don't get your way you change the rules. Are we going to let them?

It will be a doomsday for democracy if we do."
-Chuck Schumer 3-17-2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1rV3mBIwo

 

[GothTalk]

As long as they can phone it in, no one is required to put in any effort to oppose legislation.

Make them work. 41 on the floor at all times during a filibuster.

I'm surprised Democrats arent offering this up as compromise

Democrats don't want compromise, they want power....the authority to put the entire country under their bootheel.

 

[ll74]

Democrats don't want compromise, they want power....the authority to put the entire country under their bootheel.

Your opinion is noted and discarded, as usual

 

[GothTalk]

"Bottom line is very simple. The ideologues in the Senate want to turn what the Founding Fathers called the cooling saucer of democracy into the rubber stamp of dictatorship. We will not let them! They want - because they can't get their way on every judge to change the rules in mid-stream; to wash away 200 years of history. They want to make this country into a banana republic where if your don't get your way you change the rules. Are we going to let them?

It will be a doomsday for democracy if we do."
-Chuck Schumer 3-17-2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1rV3mBIwo

But...BUTT... it's a threat to democracy when republicans use it!!!

I think it's hysterical how much Democrats think democracy is democrats getting their way all the time every time.

 

[pecksniff]

Extensively and enthusiastically, when they are the minority.

Based on this, the Dems never used the filibuster much against W, nor against Trump. And it was the Pubs who abolished the filibuster as applied to nominations.

 

[pecksniff]

I think it's hysterical how much Democrats think democracy is democrats getting their way all the time every time.

The projection is strong with this one.

 

[GothTalk]

The projection is strong with this one.

There was no projetion there.

That's how lefties use the word "democracy".

 

[GothTalk]

Based on this, the Dems never used the filibuster much against W, nor against Trump. And it was the Pubs who abolished the filibuster as applied to nominations.

Congressional records > wiki opinions......democrats love the filibuster when they are the minority.

And call it a threat to democracy when they aren't. That's literal...not figurative, straight fro. Schumers mouth.

 

[pecksniff]

There was no projetion there.

That's how lefties use the word "democracy".

It is the Pubs, not the Dems, who have spent the past 20 years and more denying the legitimacy of the opposition. (A thing you do yourself, whenever you use the word "un-American.") It is the Pubs, not the Dems, whose policy is to obstruct any and all of the other party's initiatives, even when the thing was their own idea to begin with. It is the Pubs, not the Dems.

 

[LittleDixie]

I think it's hysterical how much Democrats think democracy is democrats getting their way all the time every time.

And they totally don't see it.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Democrats love the filibuster. They just used it to help Putin, after all:

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