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As Wehner explains, what happened at McLean Bible Church is not an isolated event.

"What happened at McLean Bible Church is happening all over the evangelical world. Influential figures such as the theologian Russell Moore and the Bible teacher Beth Moore felt compelled to leave the Southern Baptist Convention; both were targeted by right-wing elements within the SBC," he explained. "The root of the discord lies in the fact that many Christians have embraced the worst aspects of our culture and our politics. When the Christian faith is politicized, churches become repositories not of grace but of grievances, places where tribal identities are reinforced, where fears are nurtured, and where aggression and nastiness are sacralized. The result is not only wounding the nation; it's having a devastating impact on the Christian faith."

Speaking with Wehner, historian George Marsden explained that "political loyalties can sometimes be so strong that they create a religious like faith that overrides or even transforms a more traditional religious faith," the author recalled.
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https://www.alternet.org/2021/10/trump-evangelicals/

more here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/evangelical-trump-christians-politics/620469/

The root of the discord lies in the fact that many Christians have embraced the worst aspects of our culture and our politics. When the Christian faith is politicized, churches become repositories not of grace but of grievances, places where tribal identities are reinforced, where fears are nurtured, and where aggression and nastiness are sacralized. The result is not only wounding the nation; it’s having a devastating impact on the Christian faith.
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Scott Dudley, senior pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church in Bellevue, Washington, refers to this as “our idolatry of politics.”
Many Christians, though, are disinclined to heed calls for civility. They feel that everything they value is under assault, and that they need to fight to protect it. “I understand that,” Dudley said. “I feel under assault sometimes too. However, I also know that the early Christians transformed the Roman empire not by demanding but by loving, not by angrily shouting about their rights in the public square but by serving even the people who persecuted them, which is why Christianity grew so quickly and took over the empire. I also know that once Christians gained political power under Constantine, that beautiful loving, sacrificing, giving, transforming Church became the angry, persecuting, killing Church. We have forgotten the cross.”
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this, much longer, piece in the Atlantic is well worth reading right down to the end.
 
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The Orange Satan has accomplished his mission.

Of course, if the church wasn't so full of frauds and hypocrites to begin with, the Orange Satan would never have been able to drive a wedge between the members.

JFC.

SAD!!!
 
Before the 1970s, most of the more deeply religious sort of Christian Americans tended to avoid politics entirely, as an occasion of sin.
 
A person cannot support Trump and still make credible claims of being a Christian.
 
adrina said:
A person cannot support Trump and still make credible claims of being a Christian.
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The non- frauds / non- hypocrites within the faiths have FINALLY seen the light. They've had long enough to figure out that Trump was every bit as evil as advertised.

It only took them six years. :rolleyes:

JFC

SAD!!!
 
Cubantripod said:
Again. He's YOUR Boogyman. That doesn't make him anyone else's Boogyman. Additionally, it's circular logic.
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Even if I agreed with this (and I don't), it's a matter of public record that his presidency - and his track record in business before that - is chock full of things that fly in the face of Christ's teachings. You could literally find something almost every day of his term that did that.
 
Bud_Spencer said:
I don't know anyone that worships Trump.

I think you neurotics are wrapping yourselves around another axle.
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The lefties aren't capable of nuanced thinking. It's an either/or rationale with them. If you don't think Trump is the Boogyman, then you're a Trump worshipper.
 
Cubantripod said:
The lefties aren't capable of nuanced thinking. It's an either/or rationale with them. If you don't think Trump is the Boogyman, then you're a Trump worshipper.
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Personally, I think Trump was a mixed bag. I guess that makes me a worshiper.
 
I have trumptard relatives who pretend to be Christians. But I've extricated myself from that part of the family.
 
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