Taliban may regret the day we left

[icanhelp1]

The development of ISIS. and Al-Qaeda as formidable powers perhaps the Taliban will, in the future, regret the day we left.

 

[KeithD]

I think that they, indeed, are going to find it harder to hold control than the last time they were in power.

 

[OldJourno]

Lol. You clowns haven't figured out these are all the same team with different names.
It's like these asshats in the administration talking about how the Taliban better behave if it wants to be accepted in the world community. Do you really believe the Taliban, from the toad toting the machine gun and mowing down orphan girls all the way up to the guy ordering the beheading of gays, gives two shits if the people of Belgium or Peru approve?

 

[OldJourno]

The biggest challenge the Taliban had was the old-time Northern Alliance. When they challenged the Taliban, at least threatening to slow their advances, Biden and his generals turned their back on pleas for help, refusing all requests for military assistance.

 

[Rightguide]

According to people I know, who have been there, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are joined at the hip. The Taliban are mostly Pakistanis, and are led by Pakistanis. The Biden Administration is gaslighting us about the efficacy of dealing with them, those deep state types who thought we could build a nation and wipe out the Patriarchy, are the same people who are telling us the Taliban have evolved into a modern force we can deal with. They say we can deal with them from a position of leverage, but we have no leverage, as long as they are holding our citizens hostage. The only thing we have is the ransom money they are going to demand we come up with. These are the same terrorists they were in 2001. Joe fucked up and now he's trying to polish the turd he's been handed by lying to us again about the Taliban, their intentions, and our true expectations for success. He has surrendered the country and our citizens, to the enemy and doesn't want to admit it.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Who gives a fuck what the taliban think?

 

[YDB95]

Lol. You clowns haven't figured out these are all the same team with different names.
It's like these asshats in the administration talking about how the Taliban better behave if it wants to be accepted in the world community. Do you really believe the Taliban, from the toad toting the machine gun and mowing down orphan girls all the way up to the guy ordering the beheading of gays, gives two shits if the people of Belgium or Peru approve?

Then let Belgium and Peru spend twenty years and trillions of dollars trying to make a difference there. We did our share.

 

[Rightguide]

Then let Belgium and Peru spend twenty years and trillions of dollars trying to make a difference there. We did our share.

The future of Afghanistan is now about the Chinese and the Russians, not Peru or Belgium.

 

[pecksniff]

Lol. You clowns haven't figured out these are all the same team with different names.

Taliban and ISIS apparently don't get along.

 

[YDB95]

The future of Afghanistan is now about the Chinese and the Russians, not Peru or Belgium.

The Russians already got bogged down there once, I doubt they'll make that mistake again. Here's hoping the Chinese do, but I've got my doubts about that too.

 

[OldJourno]

Then let Belgium and Peru spend twenty years and trillions of dollars trying to make a difference there. We did our share.

The point wasn't subtle, but you still missed it. The Taliban don't give a shit about world opinion, in Peru, Belgium or the United States. They will kill people who don't meet their 7th century standards, and they don't care what you think about it.
This gibberish from the Biden administration about the Taliban caring about being accepted in the world is liberal fantasy.

 

[pecksniff]

The point wasn't subtle, but you still missed it. The Taliban don't give a shit about world opinion, in Peru, Belgium or the United States. They will kill people who don't meet their 7th century standards, and they don't care what you think about it.
This gibberish from the Biden administration about the Taliban caring about being accepted in the world is liberal fantasy.

They're in charge now, and any government is going to find that being accepted in the world is a matter of practical importance. Not even NK can ignore it completely.

 

[KeithD]

Taliban and ISIS apparently don't get along.

Pssst, we're trying to keep that a secret from OleJ.

 

[KeithD]

They think they're cool because the drive around in jeeps with vicious machine guns, dressed in their unique hats and cool desert scarfs. Plus they have the power to take whatever they want from civilians. No one is giving that up for a 9-5 even if you throw in a camel.

The issue is that there are groups (and there will be more) just like them wanting to do the same thing--instead of them doing it. The country is a collection of belligerent satrapies, not a unified nation.

 

[AllAmericanMale]

The development of ISIS. and Al-Qaeda as formidable powers perhaps the Taliban will, in the future, regret the day we left.

You're assuming they give a shit about their "country". All they care about it the ground they're standing on.

They don't want what we have.

 

[Champakian]

It probably should have never been pigeonholed into the "country" status
and will likely balkanize unless the Taliban have the energy and
are given the resources, by China, to terrorize everyone else
in the region into the Muslim attitude of submission.

 

[Champakian]

Then again, the Uighurs are probably paying attention...

 

[ishtat]

. The country is a collection of belligerent satrapies, not a unified nation.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the fundamental fact:

Afghanistan is a geographic expression having no real existence as a nation. In addition, the same can be said of most of Western Pakistan. The elected Pakistan government of Imran Khan has no real power in the west of the country, that is held for the most part by the corrupt Pakistan Army and its notorious intelligence services in close alliance with various terrorist groups. Possibly the exit from Afghanistan will concentrate western minds on the reality that the Pakistanis have always been the greatest threat - and a nuclear threat at that.

I think that the exit from Afghanistan will allow western intelligence services to do what the military was incapable of. Encourage the locals to fight among themselves, and start by paying, bribing, encouraging them to get rid of the Arab terrorists.

It would be interesting then to see how far the Pakistani Pashtuns will go to support the perennial oppression of the Persian/Dari speakers (Hazara Aimak Tajiks) Ideally in the long term it would be beneficial if the Iranians could be involved in a drawn out dispute on their Eastern border with the Pashtuns/Pakistanis. Both sides have plenty of recruitable and disposable cannon fodder in their respective refugee camps. Unfortunately, the Iranians have been too canny in the past to get involved.

I cannot see the Taliban lasting. Their leadership knows that 20 years has changed a lot but that has not got through to their gun 'totin' army of ignorant tribesmen. Who knows what will happen but something will.

 

[icanhelp1]

The point wasn't subtle, but you still missed it. The Taliban don't give a shit about world opinion, in Peru, Belgium or the United States. They will kill people who don't meet their 7th century standards, and they don't care what you think about it.
This gibberish from the Biden administration about the Taliban caring about being accepted in the world is liberal fantasy.]

That’s not my point. With the withdrawal of the west from Afghanistan the uniting factor is gone. ISIS-K carries no love towards the Taliban. The Sunnis still hate the Shia, Al-Qaeda vs ISIS for religious domination. Now that the US is not in the picture, Iran’s common enemy, the US no longer has influence in the region does religious struggles take over pushing Afghanistan into a perpetual state of conflict? Pakistan, Russians, Iranians, Chinese all want some influence in Afghanistan. Russia’s fight against Afghan drug trafficking could manifest itself. Does 20 years of western influence fuel an insurrection amongst the young, women, those born never having been under the Taliban influence. I give a year under Taliban rule and then the lid blows off. IMHO

 

[pecksniff]

Then again, the Uighurs are probably paying attention...

To what? This doesn't affect them.

 

[oggbashan]

Then let Belgium and Peru spend twenty years and trillions of dollars trying to make a difference there. We did our share.

Belgium was there as US Allies. They had casualties, not as many as the UK who had more than anyone except the US, but they were your allies. Belgium, and many other countries (but not Peru) helped too.

 

[vastiesmith100]

Maybe you'll be the first one

Who gives a fuck what the taliban think?

killed by a road side bomb or a crazy driving their truck into your family here in the good old USA. I hope so you deserve it/

 

[vastiesmith100]

Just think if our government did that in WW2

Then let Belgium and Peru spend twenty years and trillions of dollars trying to make a difference there. We did our share.

You would be speaking German or Japanese. You're a fool and a really dumb ass.

 

[HisArpy]

To what? This doesn't affect them.

Uighurs = muslim.

Taliban = muslim.



Hmmm, I wonder what they have in common. I'm sure there's something...



Meanwhile, the Taliban says that "China is a trusted ally." Yeah, I'm all for believing that.

 

[HisArpy]

You would be speaking German or Japanese. You're a fool and a really dumb ass.

All fixed.