help me think this through

[justabitofred]

I hope it’s OK I started another account to post this question. I’m not exactly proud of this. So I may have an opportunity to be sb to a sd. I’m young, and I can and want to cash out on my body for a year or two while I still look like your little sister. Why not? It’s just sex and sex is a cinch. I know it’s wrong, but it’s my decision, I’m adulting now I’m hoping to get help thinking this through.

COVID has been really hard on me and anyone my age. No real skills, education not complete, our already crappy jobs wiped out. Even without COVID, what’s a girl to do with little (or no) bankable skills? Wait tables at min wage and beg for a tip? Prior to COVID, we had sex several times. He’s almost 40 years older than me. His tastes are not hard for me to handle. Light bondage, spanking, ropes, cuffs, collars, leash, floggers, little girl dress-up. Easy peasy. Last time we met, he said something about getting me a place near him (same country, other side) and I would be his live-near play-thing. I would have a credit card and spending account. Apparently, he has a contract for me. I’ll be joining another girl he has right now, I’m going to guess we’ll be roommates?

My thoughts are my safety. I’m not exactly proud of this so I don’t want to tell anyone. I live at home, how do I tell my parents I’ll be disappearing for a year or so? Boyfriend? Friends? How do I explain my disappearance? I’m midway through college but the semester is done, trying to think through taking a break for only one year to make some really good tax free money. Is this even legal (USA)? Did I miss anything?

 

[Jada59]

I thought like you did when I was young. What changed my mind? I worked in a store. We sold crappy rabbit fur jackets for $50. Prostitutes would come in, early in the morning and put them on layaway. Every few hours, they'd come back to put more money on their account. But every time thy came in, they were more nd more injured. Bruises, fat lips, black eyes. They'd be smiling by closing time as they left with the paid off jacket. But by the next morning, they'd be back for another jacket because they were robbed.

More than once, girls would come in screaming for help, some John in pursuit with a knife or gun.

Sure, you might get lucky and get some lonely soul who just wants to talk and cuddle. But it's fr more likely you'll get beat up, robbed, maybe even killed. Sooo not worth it.

 

[IrisAlthea]

I hope it’s OK I started another account to post this question. I’m not exactly proud of this. So I may have an opportunity to be sb to a sd. I’m young, and I can and want to cash out on my body for a year or two while I still look like your little sister. Why not? It’s just sex and sex is a cinch. I know it’s wrong, but it’s my decision, I’m adulting now I’m hoping to get help thinking this through.

COVID has been really hard on me and anyone my age. No real skills, education not complete, our already crappy jobs wiped out. Even without COVID, what’s a girl to do with little (or no) bankable skills? Wait tables at min wage and beg for a tip? Prior to COVID, we had sex several times. He’s almost 40 years older than me. His tastes are not hard for me to handle. Light bondage, spanking, ropes, cuffs, collars, leash, floggers, little girl dress-up. Easy peasy. Last time we met, he said something about getting me a place near him (same country, other side) and I would be his live-near play-thing. I would have a credit card and spending account. Apparently, he has a contract for me. I’ll be joining another girl he has right now, I’m going to guess we’ll be roommates?

My thoughts are my safety. I’m not exactly proud of this so I don’t want to tell anyone. I live at home, how do I tell my parents I’ll be disappearing for a year or so? Boyfriend? Friends? How do I explain my disappearance? I’m midway through college but the semester is done, trying to think through taking a break for only one year to make some really good tax free money. Is this even legal (USA)? Did I miss anything?

I think it is wise of you to really think this through, for several reasons.

The first thing that worries me is that you say you will be doing something that you are not proud of and that you don’t want to tell family and friends. This will make you much less safe if you go through with it. It also means that there is a higher probability of this becoming emotionally difficult at some point.

You have met him and had sex and feel comfortable with the kink level so far. That does not mean that you know everything about his tastes or that the kink level would be the same if you go through with this.

Money is nice. It is easy to get used to a certain amount of money and a standard of living. It is fairly easy to keep using a bit to much of the money and coming out on the other side of this without the nest egg and with some expensive habits and tastes too. It makes it more difficult to go back to college and finish your education. And believe me, it is hard enough anyway. For me it took as much willpower as I could ever muster and a good opportunity and support to get it done. It was two lousy courses! How stupid was that? But hey, I worked anyway and money was good… You see my point?

The thing that would worry me most though is moving far away without your friends and loved ones. It makes any risk already mentioned magnitudes bigger.
I moved to another country to live with people that I knew well and who cared about me and it was still difficult. It was emotionally draining and destabilitizing and that is not a good thing for someone in the situation you would be putting yourself in.

Legally - I don’t know much about what could be problematic where you are. Good tax free money often turns out to be problematic though.

 

[77fbird400]

I hope it’s OK I started another account to post this question. I’m not exactly proud of this. So I may have an opportunity to be sb to a sd. I’m young, and I can and want to cash out on my body for a year or two while I still look like your little sister. Why not? It’s just sex and sex is a cinch. I know it’s wrong, but it’s my decision, I’m adulting now I’m hoping to get help thinking this through.

COVID has been really hard on me and anyone my age. No real skills, education not complete, our already crappy jobs wiped out. Even without COVID, what’s a girl to do with little (or no) bankable skills? Wait tables at min wage and beg for a tip? Prior to COVID, we had sex several times. He’s almost 40 years older than me. His tastes are not hard for me to handle. Light bondage, spanking, ropes, cuffs, collars, leash, floggers, little girl dress-up. Easy peasy. Last time we met, he said something about getting me a place near him (same country, other side) and I would be his live-near play-thing. I would have a credit card and spending account. Apparently, he has a contract for me. I’ll be joining another girl he has right now, I’m going to guess we’ll be roommates?

My thoughts are my safety. I’m not exactly proud of this so I don’t want to tell anyone. I live at home, how do I tell my parents I’ll be disappearing for a year or so? Boyfriend? Friends? How do I explain my disappearance? I’m midway through college but the semester is done, trying to think through taking a break for only one year to make some really good tax free money. Is this even legal (USA)? Did I miss anything?

So you're adulting now. Wearing big girl pants. Tell me, have you ever paid a bill or a credit card statement?

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Honey, you say you've made up your mind and I accept that. But you've raised a number of questions. I can be nice or I can be honest. I will go with honesty, 'cause sugar-coating stuff is not helpful.

Legality. Whether or not taking money for sex is legal or not depends on where you live. I find it most unlikely that any official is going to come after a mistress (the old-fashioned word for it) and charge her with prostitution. So you probably won’t get in trouble for that. On the other hand, you said, "tax-free money," and that's a big red flag. Uncle Sugar has some really stiff laws about income tax and can be relentless about collecting. Even if all goes well in all other areas, you're either going to have to cough up a large chunk of what you get or spend a long time looking over your shoulder for the IRS. So, it ain't going to be quite as profitable as you think. Edit - check out 'imputed income'. If Daddy is housing you or paying your credit card, it might well count as 'income' and is therefore subject to taxes.

You’ve said your plan is to sell your bod because you feel you've no other skills. You're writing off, say, waitressing because 'begging for tips'. (That right there offers some insight into your attitude, hon. I don't think I've ever had a server beg me for a tip. The ones I deal with earn them.) Put that aside.

Let's take an objective look at your ‘career choice’.

Short term, maybe it’s OK. You've presumably got the looks, the figure, the bounce and you’re OK with what he says he wants.

Now, medium term, when those firm boobs are starting to sag just a little, the first crowsfeet have shown up and the first cellulite dimples are appearing, what's the plan? Maybe I’m wrong, but I cannot see that you have looked beyond a year or so. You may have a little money put aside from your sugar-daddy, but you'll have will have no way of finding an off-ramp, will have built up no skills to help you survive without Daddy. And it's going to get continually worse as time goes by. There are darned few 62-year-old sugar babies, hon.

I’m deeply concerned that you’re going to essentially vanish, hand yourself over to a stranger. Yes, allowance, credit card. But what does that ‘contract’ require of you? Sex? Well, that’s goes without saying. You’ve specified some types and I get the feeling you can live with those. But what if he wants more, something you aren’t good with, something that makes you deeply worried or ashamed of yourself, maybe something frightening? What happens then?

Another big red flag is that you aren't really sure. Sweetie, if you were sure, you wouldn't be on a porn site asking total strangers to give you 'help thinking this through' - translation, 'convincing me that I'm right'.

What bothers me most is that you don't think you can tell anybody important in your life, like friends or family, that you’ll be gone for a year peddling your sweet butt for money. That suggests to me - strongly - that you know this isn't a good decision for you.

Honey, it’s your call. Maybe it'll work out. To me, there are alarms going off all over the place.

I do sincerely wish you good luck.

 

[77fbird400]

Let me fill in the rest of your story that you omitted.

You don’t consider yourself a prostitute. That is a degrading term. You hold your chin high and call yourself an escort. But not at an agency. Escort agencies are for men of normal stature. Rich guys won’t cruise the streets looking for sex or call for an escort from an agency that sells to the general public. The risk of exposure is too great. These are affluent men with influence in high positions. A rich guy would have a circle of affluent friends and one of them has a little black book with a bunch of names in it. You’re in that book. Think of Jeffery Epstein.

You were recruited at college. You’ve already learned that you can make $1G, $3G, $5G in one night plus tips. You’ve learned that rich guys won’t nickel and dime you. They won’t bat an eye throwing you a $1000 tip. You just have to let them go bareback, do what he wants and put on a good show. You can make more in one night than you can in weeks. You’ve tried it once and now you’re addicted to the money.

Have you thought that you are being BAITED? They are putting breadcrumbs on the ground and leading you into a much bigger world. This is DANGEROUS. You are in DANGER. They KNOW you're not mature enough to make these decisions. But you are of legal age to give CONSENT. You’ve heard of other girls who have run off with sugar daddies. You’ve heard of this lucrative world of credit cards and expense accounts. Could it be the case that they are controlling who you talk to about this? Have you ever wondered why you don’t hear from the girls whose sugar experience did NOT work out? Could it be that you only heard the stories from girls who had a positive experience? Does this imply that all sd/sb experiences will work?

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Echoing others, the risk here is very high. It sounds like you will be completely removed from your friends and family, not because the potential sugar daddy is requiring that (although he would be moving you far away), but because you think you will feel ashamed or embarrassed about what you’re doing. It does sound like you know this man somewhat since you had a sexual relationship already, but how well do you know him? Being isolated from your family, engaging in probably illegal behavior that you’re already worried you’ll be ashamed of, would you be able to seek help if you need it? It kinda reminds me of when teens and young adults get in trouble or are harmed and they don’t seek help because they were doing something (like underage drinking) illegal at the time. I’m concerned that this will be life changing for you in a negative way at the very least, but potentially considerably harmful at the worst. I would encourage you to steer clear of this.

 

[Acktion]

Neurological research shows that the pre-frontal cortex, the part of our beautiful brain responsible for "executive functions" (such as long-term goals and planning), does not come fully online until approximately twenty-five(ish). Don't take my word for it, look it up. This means, effectively, that in the good ol' US (and most other places) you are considered "An Adult" and responsible for you for seven years before the "I oughta" filter catches up to the "I wanna" of the amygdala kickstart, the serotonin and dopamine fluctuations, and the additional wrinkling up of the cortex responsible for cognition and emotive handling. And let us not forget that the myelin connections between the temporal and parietal lobes are still forming in the junction that is responsible for, among other things, empathy and the ability to differentiate "self" from "other."

So, yeah. You're over eighteen and have the right to go off and fuck up your life in whatever way you wish now. And you're gonna. It's a biological fact.

Not judging. God knows I did my share (and probably three other people's share as well) during that age range when I couldn't be told shit because I was finally an adult and didn't have to knuckle under anymore since I had pretty well always been the smartest person in any room including the adults, and yet I didn't have the brakes quite worked out just yet. 95% of my experiences, which more often than not translated to "ow! Fuck! Don't do that shit again" happened during that age. Changing my major mid-stream from the engineering key to the "human sciences" was, in retrospect, maybe not as bright a move as it seemed back then. Three failed engagements demonstrate just how bad I was at picking 'em. The, strictly speaking illegal, back-alley no-rules cage matches for a little pocket money...

As I say, it is basic neurological biology. It's your right to make your own decisions now that you are an adult. And some of 'em are just gonna be bad ones. Some days I think that's all being an adult really is, figuring out how to mitigate and minimize the damage.

Here's the thing, kiddo. You said it all right there towards the end when you said "I'm not exactly proud of this and don't want to tell anybody." That right there is your still developing pre-frontal cortex trying to shout loud enough to be heard. If you can't tell your Mama and Papa and everybody else you know loud and proud, holding your head high, then that's a pretty good sign you already know it's not the right plan for you.

The rest... *shrug*... I'm not about to judge. I've had my thoughts about Sugar Daddying some pretty little filly a couple of times over the decades. So, I'd be seven kinds of hypocrite to tell you not to do the exact thing I've given some thought over the years to taking advantage of from some other little fresh-faced thing with rather more tits than wits.

(Sadly, I'm just not cut out for it. Yeah, wealth is an issue these days since my disability check just ain't that much. But, so is the fact that I have always needed my fucktoys to be strong, intelligent, capable, and independent in addition to sexy, to come to me because they want me rather than they have no other choice.)

If you want to head out to be a cam girl, a porn star, a prostitute, or a sugar baby, or some other limited "cash-in on your youth and sex" as you phrase it and you are absolutely sure that is what you want to do rather than spending this time laying a solid foundation for long-term strength and independence so you don't need a damn thing from anybody you can't get for yourself in ten or twenty or thirty years and don't have to rely on someone else's mercy, then knock yourself out. It's your life to live, and you only get this one shot to experience all the comedy and tragedy on the stage of the world.

Only... why are you ashamed to tell everyone you know that this is your decision, this is your life, and you are going to go live it?

 

[wicked woman]

A lot of great comments already provided. I'm only going to comment on the financial aspect. You called it 'cash out on your body' but I didn't hear you say you were getting any cash. You mention room and board as well as a credit card and an expense account. You've already got room and board, since you said you're currently at home. (Yes I'm making an assumption.) The rest lets you buy stuff but isn't cash to save or bank.

Add to that, you're providing sex for income so it is not tax free. Yes you can lie and not report the income on your tax return (another thing you won't be proud of and writing home about) but that doesn't change the fact that you'd be evading paying tax, which is illegal. And if you want to report it and pay tax on your income, where's the cash coming from to do that? If you get caught, at best, you'll be financially in the hole, at worst, you'll be in jail.

So I don't see how you're getting financially ahead. Yes you might have nice clothes, live in a nice place and go to nice places, but at what cost? Only you can determine if you're prepared to pay the cost. I'm guessing you know the answer though.

 

[sub2femdom]

I hope it’s OK I started another account to post this question. I’m not exactly proud of this. So I may have an opportunity to be sb to a sd. I’m young, and I can and want to cash out on my body for a year or two while I still look like your little sister. Why not? It’s just sex and sex is a cinch. I know it’s wrong, but it’s my decision, I’m adulting now I’m hoping to get help thinking this through.

COVID has been really hard on me and anyone my age. No real skills, education not complete, our already crappy jobs wiped out. Even without COVID, what’s a girl to do with little (or no) bankable skills? Wait tables at min wage and beg for a tip? Prior to COVID, we had sex several times. He’s almost 40 years older than me. His tastes are not hard for me to handle. Light bondage, spanking, ropes, cuffs, collars, leash, floggers, little girl dress-up. Easy peasy. Last time we met, he said something about getting me a place near him (same country, other side) and I would be his live-near play-thing. I would have a credit card and spending account. Apparently, he has a contract for me. I’ll be joining another girl he has right now, I’m going to guess we’ll be roommates?

My thoughts are my safety. I’m not exactly proud of this so I don’t want to tell anyone. I live at home, how do I tell my parents I’ll be disappearing for a year or so? Boyfriend? Friends? How do I explain my disappearance? I’m midway through college but the semester is done, trying to think through taking a break for only one year to make some really good tax free money. Is this even legal (USA)? Did I miss anything?

If you've been with the guy before and know his tastes, then I think you can do it without compromising your safety too much. Sounds like you've had a long standing relationship with him already, so the risk seems minimal. Tell your family that you are going on a "retreat" for a while. Give them the address before you go and set up a weekly check-in at a specific time.

It's your body, your choice. It's an advantage that you have in a world that constantly pushes us all down. Good for you.

 

[justabitofred]

I thought like you did when I was young. What changed my mind? I worked in a store. We sold crappy rabbit fur jackets for $50. Prostitutes would come in, early in the morning and put them on layaway. Every few hours, they'd come back to put more money on their account. But every time thy came in, they were more nd more injured. Bruises, fat lips, black eyes. They'd be smiling by closing time as they left with the paid off jacket. But by the next morning, they'd be back for another jacket because they were robbed.

More than once, girls would come in screaming for help, some John in pursuit with a knife or gun.

Sure, you might get lucky and get some lonely soul who just wants to talk and cuddle. But it's fr more likely you'll get beat up, robbed, maybe even killed. Sooo not worth it.

It's not like that at all. It's not like I sneak out of my parent's home and stand on a street corner all night. If I had to do that, I simply wouldn’t. I get what you mean though. I met him through kind of an agency if you can call it that, but there was no physical location. It's hard to explain. I don’t want to say too much about him but I will say that I’m pretty sure he’s married and has a family. I saw a glimpse of his wallet. There are some kids in there, the oldest looks too young to be his kid, probably a bit younger than me.

 

[justabitofred]

I think it is wise of you to really think this through, for several reasons.

The first thing that worries me is that you say you will be doing something that you are not proud of and that you don’t want to tell family and friends. This will make you much less safe if you go through with it. It also means that there is a higher probability of this becoming emotionally difficult at some point.

You have met him and had sex and feel comfortable with the kink level so far. That does not mean that you know everything about his tastes or that the kink level would be the same if you go through with this.

Money is nice. It is easy to get used to a certain amount of money and a standard of living. It is fairly easy to keep using a bit to much of the money and coming out on the other side of this without the nest egg and with some expensive habits and tastes too. It makes it more difficult to go back to college and finish your education. And believe me, it is hard enough anyway. For me it took as much willpower as I could ever muster and a good opportunity and support to get it done. It was two lousy courses! How stupid was that? But hey, I worked anyway and money was good… You see my point?

The thing that would worry me most though is moving far away without your friends and loved ones. It makes any risk already mentioned magnitudes bigger.
I moved to another country to live with people that I knew well and who cared about me and it was still difficult. It was emotionally draining and destabilitizing and that is not a good thing for someone in the situation you would be putting yourself in.

Legally - I don’t know much about what could be problematic where you are. Good tax free money often turns out to be problematic though.

It's only about money and if the money wasn't really good I simply wouldn't do it. But he's offering the upper end of 5 figures. I didn't want to reveal this but my little brother - much younger than me, is special needs. He requires constant attention and medical care. He prevents my mom from working full time because Dad makes more money. My mom and dad are blue collar workers. Paying for me, my car and college is putting a strain on our family. When you add COVID to that, and me not able to get a job then it makes it a lot worse. If this works, it could be a blessing in disguise, kind of a sacrifice on my part for my family. We have government help for COVID, but what is a thousand dollars here and there going to do?

I already said I'm not proud of this. I already said this was a bad idea. I appreciate the advice, but I said I was young, I’m not stupid, I actually thought about most of it just didn’t feel I needed to type everything out. I don’t need more reasoning around the right and wrong of it. Just seeking some help thinking through how this could work. Thank you though.

 

[justabitofred]

Let me fill in the rest of your story that you omitted.

You don’t consider yourself a prostitute. That is a degrading term. You hold your chin high and call yourself an escort. But not at an agency. Escort agencies are for men of normal stature. Rich guys won’t cruise the streets looking for sex or call for an escort from an agency that sells to the general public. The risk of exposure is too great. These are affluent men with influence in high positions. A rich guy would have a circle of affluent friends and one of them has a little black book with a bunch of names in it. You’re in that book. Think of Jeffery Epstein.

You were recruited at college. You’ve already learned that you can make $1G, $3G, $5G in one night plus tips. You’ve learned that rich guys won’t nickel and dime you. They won’t bat an eye throwing you a $1000 tip. You just have to let them go bareback, do what he wants and put on a good show. You can make more in one night than you can in weeks. You’ve tried it once and now you’re addicted to the money.

Have you thought that you are being BAITED? They are putting breadcrumbs on the ground and leading you into a much bigger world. This is DANGEROUS. You are in DANGER. They KNOW you're not mature enough to make these decisions. But you are of legal age to give CONSENT. You’ve heard of other girls who have run off with sugar daddies. You’ve heard of this lucrative world of credit cards and expense accounts. Could it be the case that they are controlling who you talk to about this? Have you ever wondered why you don’t hear from the girls whose sugar experience did NOT work out? Could it be that you only heard the stories from girls who had a positive experience? Does this imply that all sd/sb experiences will work?

Ok, you're partly right. He paid me a much more than agreed. And no, I've never paid a bill before. I never thought about it this way - being baited. This is interesting. Can you elaborate? You're a guy right?

 

[77fbird400]

Ok, you're partly right. He paid me a much more than agreed. And no, I've never paid a bill before. I never thought about it this way - being baited. This is interesting. Can you elaborate? You're a guy right?

Can we put out thinking caps on? Lets start here.

Why do you think he paid you all that extra money for some "easy peasy" light BDSM? At 60, do you really think it was his first time doing this?

 

[justabitofred]

Can we put out thinking caps on? Lets start here.

Why do you think he paid you all that extra money for some "easy peasy" light BDSM? At 60, do you really think it was his first time doing this?

Do tell.

 

[77fbird400]

Do tell.

No, young red one, I'd like you to figure this out. Show us your "adulting" skills. Put the variables that you provided us together. What could be a reason he paid you much more than usual for your services?

 

[justabitofred]

No, young red one, I'd like you to figure this out. Show us your "adulting" skills. Put the variables that you provided us together. What could be a reason he paid you much more than usual for your services?

I'm being baited?

 

[77fbird400]

I'm being baited?

That's what I said. Perhaps I'm wrong. But why do I think you're being baited when he paid you so much more than you expected? Why is he targeting you? You're playing in this world of men, better start thinking like one.

 

[justabitofred]

That's what I said. Perhaps I'm wrong. But why do I think you're being baited when he paid you so much more than you expected? Why is he targeting you? You're playing in this world of men, better start thinking like one.

I'm sorry, I really don't know. Can you just tell me?

 

[IrisAlthea]

Ok, you're partly right. He paid me a much more than agreed. And no, I've never paid a bill before. I never thought about it this way - being baited. This is interesting. Can you elaborate? You're a guy right?

Can we put out thinking caps on? Lets start here.

Why do you think he paid you all that extra money for some "easy peasy" light BDSM? At 60, do you really think it was his first time doing this?

This is what I meant when I said that you probably don’t know everything about his tastes and kink level.
When you are far from friends and family, living on his expense in a place he provides, you are way more vulnerable to requests that go way beyond what you are ok with.
Not being able to talk about what is going on with people you know and trust and not having funds enough to leave, stay in a hotel room and/or travel home are things that increase the risk that this morphs into something you feel you have to agree to even if it is way beyond what you are ok with.

I didn’t intend to tell you that you are stupid. Just pointing out things that would need handling. I don’ think this is something that can be done safely, so you would have to look at the problematic stuff and find ways to mitigate the risk as far as possible.
Having money enough to bug out at any time for example, would be something that is helpful in most situations and especially in riskier situations.

 

[77fbird400]

I'm sorry, I really don't know. Can you just tell me?

Try yourself first. What could he be doing?

 

[justabitofred]

Try yourself first. What could he be doing?

Showing me he's rich?

 

[KimGordon67]

Ok, you're partly right. He paid me a much more than agreed. And no, I've never paid a bill before. I never thought about it this way - being baited. This is interesting. Can you elaborate? You're a guy right?

The poster you're responding to is fairly good at sounding like he knows what he's talking about. Having seen a bit of his posts in other place, I don't think this is a situation he's actually familiar with, even though he sounds like he is.

 

[77fbird400]

Showing me he's rich?

So is he?

 

[IrisAlthea]

The poster you're responding to is fairly good at sounding like he knows what he's talking about. Having seen a bit of his posts in other place, I don't think this is a situation he's actually familiar with, even though he sounds like he is.

He’s not wrong though and he didn’t claim to have been in the situation.