Dumb-fuck MyPillow CEO (many say it's a shit product BTW) banned from Twitter

[Lazaran]

Fair enough.

Wow you're easy......

I for one don't support unlimited free speech in any setting.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater??? No.

Using the Internet to radicalize impressionable young or psychologically unstable individuals to commit acts of violence??? No.

Businesses or institutions denying service to an individual based on race, religion, or sexual orientation??? No.

The dissemination of media containing child pornography, executions, etc??? No.

Sociopaths have no moral compass, so they cannot be trusted to self censor, which means someone else has to do it for them.

On Lit that someone is Laurel; and "certain" sociopathic users have required her to exercise her power to censor on her platform. I say kudos!!!!

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Kicking users off a free platform site for violating the terms of use is not "censorship."

And posts on a free site are not the "product." The "product" is the platform itself.

You're conflating legally protected speech and 1st amendment civil rights, with free speech.

Not the same things.

I 100% support private companies right to refuse service to anyone for any reason...regardless of whatever asshole reasoning. If Twitter wants to turn their product into the puritanical echo chamber of woke? That's their bidnizz. I don't care.

Doesn't change the fact that they are censoring their product and censorship is anti-free speech.

 

[LupusDei]

And posts on a free site are not the "product." The "product" is the platform itself.

Well, some would say that the "product" is the aggregated user data because that's what enables the targeted advertising with is the bottom line maker for those platforms. Said targeting is at least partially responsible for the current crisis of bullshit, because apparently, blatant lies sell well.

 

[CornusKousa]

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There's nothing more pathetic than a desperate right wing snowflake.

Creating straw man arguments and ascribing support for riots and insurrection to others after the ACTUAL insurrection and attempted coup at the Capitol instigated by the Orange fascist they openly support is pathetic.

It wasn't a created straw man.....we all watched the MSM and Democrats from Biden all the way down to the lit leftist shill for BLM rioters.

People that loot and riot in response to a perceived social injustice should be condemned, and if convicted, punished to the fullest extent of the law for the crimes they commit.

Got a NAZI HERE!!! A NAZI!!! Laz hates black people, supports racism and is a white nationalist supremacist NAZIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!

/end "progressive" mode

Wow you're easy......

I for one don't support unlimited free speech in any setting.

Sociopaths have no moral compass, so they cannot be trusted to self censor, which means someone else has to do it for them.

On Lit that someone is Laurel; and "certain" sociopathic users have required her to exercise her power to censor on her platform. I say kudos!!!!

Oh look at that, and anti-free speech.

Laz is a paragon of the left.

 

[CornusKousa]

Kicking users off a free platform site for violating the terms of use is not "censorship."

1) yes it is....your FEELINGS that it's justified censorship don't change that it is in fact censorship.

2) 'terms of use' don't mean much when they don't apply to one political group but are applied heavily to the other on an almost random and totally partisan basis. Why do leftist and their organizations get to make DIRECT threats of violence and organize their terrorist activities on facebook and twitter?? We know why.

And posts on a free site are not the "product."

Never said they were.

The "product" is the platform itself.

That's what I said in post #29.....you still haven't learned to read have you??

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

1) yes it is....your FEELINGS that it's justified censorship don't change that it is in fact censorship.

2) 'terms of use' don't mean much when they don't apply to one political group but are applied heavily to the other on an almost random and totally partisan basis. Why do leftist and their organizations get to make DIRECT threats of violence and organize their terrorist activities on facebook and twitter?? We know why.



Never said they were.



That's what I said in post #29.....you still haven't learned to read have you??

You screaming about your feelings doesn’t change anything. The fact remains that this does not fit the definition of censorship. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s censorship.

 

[phrodeau]

That's because when THEY do it, it's not violence, rioting and insurrection to kill people, the police and burn court houses and the community at large....that is "mostly peaceful protesting".

When THEY do it.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...parked-minneapolis-riots-as-white-supremacist

Police in Minneapolis believe they have identified the "Umbrella Man" whose vandalism of an AutoZone on the second night of the George Floyd protests sparked widespread damage.

In a search warrant affidavit obtained by BMTN, a Minneapolis Police Department arson investigator says they believe the man to be a "fully-fledged" member of the Hell's Angels and an associate of the white supremacist biker gang known as the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood.

The sole intention of the 32-year-old man was to "incite violence" at the protests, which up till the point he allegedly started causing damage had remained relatively peaceful outside the 3rd Police Precinct.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd

’Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

 

[CornusKousa]

When THEY do it.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...parked-minneapolis-riots-as-white-supremacist

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd

And??

There were a few lefties at the capitol too...you going to start arguing that it wasn't a right wing event too??

Yea, didn't think you would.

 

[CornusKousa]

You screaming about your feelings doesn’t change anything. The fact remains that this does not fit the definition of censorship. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s censorship.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif

censor verb
censored; censoring\ ˈsen(t)-​sə-​riŋ , ˈsen(t)s-​riŋ \
Definition of censor (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb

: to examine in order to suppress (see SUPPRESS sense 2) or delete anything considered objectionable

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censoring

censor
verb [ T ]

to remove anything offensive from books, films, etc.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/censoring

Censorship, the changing or the suppression or prohibition of speech or writing that is deemed subversive of the common good.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/censorship


You screaming about your feelings doesn’t change anything.

The fact remains that what lefty social media platforms have done and continue to do fits the definition of censorship perfectly.

Just because it makes you and team SiliconValley/Wall St. look as scummy as you are doesn’t mean it’s not censorship.

 

[Emerson40]

Oh noes, soldierboy is pulling out his dictionary.


Still can’t figure it out though....

 

[CornusKousa]

Oh noes, soldierboy is pulling out his dictionary.

That is the authoritative reference for the definition of words.

Still can’t figure it out though....

^ can't point "it" whatever "it" is.. out though...never will.

We know why "it" = total bullshit.

 

[Emerson40]

That is the authoritative reference for the definition of words.



^ can't point "it" whatever "it" is.. out though...never will.

We know why "it" = total bullshit.

‘It’ has been pointed out to you and explained many times, by me and others more articulate.

Your inability and / or refusal to see ‘it’ is your problem, not mine or anyone else’s.

You thinking that by truculently responding to every post, even those not addressed or replying to you, and getting the last word in makes you right, is wonderfully hilarious.
It reminds me of my wee lad arguing with me and his mom, when he was three years old.

Troll on, solderboy.

 

[RoryN]

Who Posted?

CornusKousa 18
phrodeau 10
Lazaran 6

The love affair the resident racist Proud Boy seems to have with my threads is starting to get a little icky.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

No, it's not. The rules are posted, ergo you don't have an absolute right to post whatever you want, ergo, you are not being censored

If you are a writer and you sign a contract to write a book with no conditions, then you can write whatever the f you want. If you sign a contract (i.e. sign onto a site with posted rules) that says you can't write about penguins and you go ahead and write about penguins, you are not being "censored" when they decline to publish.

If you think the rules are being applied unfairly, take it to court.

1) yes it is....your FEELINGS that it's justified censorship don't change that it is in fact censorship.

2) 'terms of use' don't mean much when they don't apply to one political group but are applied heavily to the other on an almost random and totally partisan basis. Why do leftist and their organizations get to make DIRECT threats of violence and organize their terrorist activities on facebook and twitter?? We know why.



Never said they were.



That's what I said in post #29.....you still haven't learned to read have you??

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Oh noes, soldierboy is pulling out his dictionary.


Still can’t figure it out though....

He’s not capable of it. He doesn’t realize he keeps proving himself wrong.

 

[phrodeau]

And??

There were a few lefties at the capitol too...you going to start arguing that it wasn't a right wing event too??

Yea, didn't think you would.

Besides the three deceased officers, one hundred forty Capitol police officers were maimed or injured on 1/6. Stuff your “few lefties” in your ass.

 

[icanhelp1]

No, it's not. The rules are posted, ergo you don't have an absolute right to post whatever you want, ergo, you are not being censored

If you are a writer and you sign a contract to write a book with no conditions, then you can write whatever the f you want. If you sign a contract (i.e. sign onto a site with posted rules) that says you can't write about penguins and you go ahead and write about penguins, you are not being "censored" when they decline to publish.

If you think the rules are being applied unfairly, take it to court.

Not writing about penguins when it's a rule applicable to all, it becomes censorship when you apply the rule to some but not others because you like them more.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I think that would count as discrimination, not censorship. In any case, you have to prove it. Take it to court.

Not writing about penguins when it's a rule applicable to all, it becomes censorship when you apply the rule to some but not others because you like them more.

 

[CornusKousa]

I think that would count as discrimination, not censorship. In any case, you have to prove it. Take it to court.

It's both. Those things are far from mutually exclusive and in fact are almost always paired.

 

[CornusKousa]

Besides the three deceased officers, one hundred forty Capitol police officers were maimed or injured on 1/6. Stuff your “few lefties” in your ass.

That's what I thought.

So same to the few righties you pointed to in Minneapolis.

 

[Lazaran]

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Violent ammosexual misogynistic bigoted racist extremists SHOULD get censored for promoting behavior associated with their views on social media sites.

Is that really a problem for some people???

Why should anyone be expected to facilitate hate???

Those crying about censorship on social media sites are the same ones crying about Biden's election.

Fuck em

 

[icanhelp1]

I think that would count as discrimination, not censorship. In any case, you have to prove it. Take it to court.

dis·crim·i·na·tion:

1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"

CENSORSHIP:

Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive,"

happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others.

Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups. Censorship by the government is unconstitutional.


In some cases neither is mutually exclusive.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

dis·crim·i·na·tion:

1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"

CENSORSHIP:

Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive,"

happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others.

Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups. Censorship by the government is unconstitutional.


In some cases neither is mutually exclusive.

Awww still upset Trump got booted from social media? I have some news for you, a private company can kick off one person, and not another, just because....

They don't have to explain it, they have their TOS, and Trump broke it, and they decided to act.

You think Trump would not be suing them, if he thought he could get his account reinstated?

So where is that Trump law suit, you know from a guy who thought nothing of filing 60+ irrelevant lawsuits about the election he lost.

chuckles

 

[icanhelp1]

Awww still upset Trump got booted from social media? I have some news for you, a private company can kick off one person, and not another, just because....

Nobody's disputing the legal aspect. If one person is removed for the same thing another person is allowed, that's censorship which is perfectly legal. The laws protect citizens from government censorship.

They don't have to explain it, they have their TOS, and Trump broke it, and they decided to act.

It's still corporate censorship.

You think Trump would not be suing them, if he thought he could get his account reinstated?

Maybe CDA 230 needs a looking at. Only the US has CDA laws on the books, maybe time to shit can it, a complex double edge sword.

So where is that Trump law suit, you know from a guy who thought nothing of filing 60+ irrelevant lawsuits about the election he lost.

Maybe he'll create his own platform.


You Canadians should be pissed at Biden for putting a damper on your pipeline.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's still corporate censorship.

Umm no it is not, it is a private company exercising their legal rights.
No different than if Lit bans a user here for violating the TOS.

You may not like or agree, but guess what, no one cares. So feel free to whine on...

You Canadians should be pissed at Biden for putting a damper on your pipeline.

Why?

I'd rather they build a pipe line to Ontario, why the fuck do I want to sell our oil to the US?

Due to the lack of a pipeline to Eastern Canada all Eastern Gas is made from Oil imported from the Saudis.

You really should educate yourself and quit stepping on your dick all the time.