Cori Bush In 2020: Protests Are Supposed To Be Violent…
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ShagTimes
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"We show up to disrupt peace & normalcy to bring about change."
Doesn't such a statement from a member of congress trouble you at all?
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Out of context, it might. Since the context was that society has been collectively looking the other way on some very big problems for a long time, I find it refreshing.
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In the context of the carnage that DID take place - courthouses and Police stations being burned down, shops and business's being looted and burned down, I'd say that language from public officials is incriminatingly inflammatory. Was she condemned by mainstream media? censured by social media? ...was she hell!
You can brazen this out all you want but people with half a brain can see the hypocrisy of it all.
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When you condone loud and annoying, it is but an invitation to physical annoyance.
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whats wrong with what they said?
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if they bring a knife, we bring a gun...Half BlackObama
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Most if not all of that carnage was really at the hands of right-wing counterprotesters. I just posted a link to an article about the Boogaloo Boi who was responsible for burning down the Minneapolis police station, for starters.
And I don't see any hypocrisy whatsoever. On one side, we're talking 400 years of systemic abuse, and on the other side, we're talking about people who support a candidate who lost an election fair and square. One of these is a lot more mitigating than the other.
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Precisely... it's taunting... and they continue to taunt and push until they provoke a reaction and then the fascist trumpettes blame those who reacted...
Precisely what took place at the Capital... they pushed and taunted and pushed and taunted until finally there had to be a response.
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What's the opposite of peaceful??
YDB will do any mental gymnastics to justify violence as long as it's leftist doing the violence.
Don't forget outright lying.
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Sorry, but what the OP said was exactly what she said. Look up the antonym for "peaceful" and what do you find: "violence". In other words, if it's "never peaceful" it means it is or should be violent. Whether or not that's what she meant isn't the issue: what she actually said is.
How many times over the last 4 years have you and those on the left taken the donald to task for something he said and when he or his supporters try to deflect it with a "that's not what he meant!" bullshit shield, attack what was said because it was meant to be exactly what was said?
To my mind this is the underlying problem that needs to be fixed. Someone whom we support says or does something, we defend it with everything we have, even if it is wrong. When the other side does something that is a carbon copy of that action the side that had defended that action when done by one of their's goes on the attack because it's wrong. Two different reactions to the same action by different people. Both sides do it and it's bullshit no matter who does it!
I'm really tired of those on either side refusing to call out their own on something that shouldn't be. I'm tired of one side claiming the high ground while attacking the other side for doing exactly the same thing they have done. I'm tired of law enforcement claiming they can selectively enforce only those laws they agree with. I'm tired of adults acting like a bunch of children on a playground.
We have serious problems in this country and need dedicated serious people to tackle them. Our national infrastructure is falling apart. We have people dying from lack of health care. We have dumb ass cities (Seattle chief among them) who are doing dumb shit like "defunding" without ever considering the repercussions of their actions. We have hundreds of homeless, most of which suffer from mental illness, but we do nothing but look at the problem and cluck our tongue. We have stupid low brow ass hats walking around our capitals with loaded rifles slung over their shoulders "because they can" never thinking or understanding what kind of message it sends.
The political pendulum never swings hard to one side, then on the return stops in the middle. It always swings over hard to the other side, slowing slightly but not by much. This normally goes on for a while before it slows enough to get to a gentle swing from moderate right to moderate left. We need to get it back to the center. We need to give the same freedoms we demand for ourselves. That is the way we keep the country strong and united. When we demand it all our way and allow nothing for those who see it differently, we perpetuate the division, the vitriolic rhetoric, the utter disdain we have had for those on the other side.
'nuff said
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What's the opposite of peaceful??
YDB will do any mental gymnastics to justify violence as long as it's leftist doing the violence.
Don't forget outright lying.
What is the opposite of progressive?
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"What she actually said" is "It's either non-violent or violent". The point is, you can be non-violent and still disrupt the "peace" that prevails when people look the other way on injustice. Protest is to disrupt that peace, but that can be done nonviolently. To me, it's perfectly clear that's what she was saying.
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She did say that BUT directly after she added, "It's never peaceful." If you take her words AS STATED never peaceful is the same as always violent. You can defect all you want, try to explain away and tap dance around the gist of her comments, but what she said is rather plain to see for anyone with a minimal grasp of the English language.
When you added "The point is..." you're put your own interpretation to and coloring her words with what you believe rather then taking the language at face value. Isn't that EXACTLY what you and other have taken the Trump supports to task for when they tried the same with some of the donald's statements?
To you it's clear what she said. The problem lays in the fact that what you see as clear doesn't match what was actually said. It's very clear to the donald's supporters that he won the election, but it doesn't match reality either.
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One generally presages the other...
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If you're going to interpret her words that literally, you have to consider EVERYTHING she said, including the "it could be violent or non-violent". So she, at least, does not see being non-violent as mutually exclusive with being non-peaceful. Social change requires a form of disturbing the peace, in the sense that you're drawing people's attention to realities they would rather not face. That is not the same as being violent.
First of all, it's the right that has a half-century track record of speaking in codes to answer for, not the left.
Secondly, I am looking at the totality of what she said. You're ignoring the "either violent or non-violent".
But it DOES match what she actually said, if you look at the whole thing. "It's very clear to the Donald's supporters that he won the election" is based entirely on a lie. Whether you agree with Rep. Bush or not, she was not advocating violence.
