Modified Form of Mandatory Voting?

[jaF0]

They keep trying to block people from voting. Several have made statements like 'If they vote, we lose' and other such nonsense.

So what about 'making' everyone vote? OK, you can't really force anyone to, but you CAN send everyone a ballot that they can fill out at home and send back without cost.

Imagine the cost savings on polling place operations for one.

 

[EmptyTank]

i can think of no better mechanism to expand voter fraud and suspicion over election results
just go back to voting in person and giving people something to vote for
instead of creating a massive and permanent class of uninformed voters

 

[KeithD]

i can think of no better mechanism to expand voter fraud and suspicion over election results
just go back to voting in person and giving people something to vote for
instead of creating a massive and permanent class of uninformed voters

You seem all about having a permanent class of uninformed voters (i.e., Trumpette Republicans) in control.

 

[EmptyTank]

you seem to have a problem with trump living rent free in your head

 

[colddiesel]

We have had compulsory voting in OZ for 96 years. The actual number voting is generally in excess of 90% and any pathetic excuse will get you out of the $20 fine for not voting. Postal voting is increasing rapidly with every election since 1918 and there has never been any significant case of voter fraud.

This system has produced conservative governments at a Federal level about 66% of the time.

 

[LLCox]

Australia already requires everyone to vote. Maybe more people would pay attention to what they are voting for.

 

[Comshaw]

i can think of no better mechanism to expand voter fraud and suspicion over election results
just go back to voting in person and giving people something to vote for
instead of creating a massive and permanent class of uninformed voters

Suspicion yes. Those who believe unsubstantiated conspiracy theories aren't going to be convinced by something as mundane as real honest facts and therefore will be suspicious of anything that contradicts what they wish to believe.

But expand voter fraud? You can't expand what isn't real. 60 court cases about voter fraud, 59 of which were dismissed, most for lack of evidence.

If you're going to claim voter fraud, prove it. You need to come with something more than wishes, wants and fantasies though. So let's see it. The proof of voter fraud.

And before you present any of them, those who swore they saw such (voter fraud) and have no corroborating evidence to back up that opinion (for an opinion is what it is without aforementioned evidence) have as much substance as a fart in the wind.

Lastly, what difference does it make whether or not you consider them "uninformed voters" or not? Unless you wish to change the constitution every citizen that meets the voter requirements has a RIGHT to vote. Your criteria of "informed" is not one of those requirements. If you wish to do that though I can assure you many would see believing unsubstantiated theories (like the current mail-in voter fraud one) as uninformed.

Comshaw

 

[Paul_Chance]

I'd be curious as the result of mandatory voting in the US. Even with the high turn out this year only about 2/3rds of eligible voters participated.

Who (or what) would that remaining third support?

 

[KeithD]

Australia already requires everyone to vote. Maybe more people would pay attention to what they are voting for.

Yeah, I would have mentioned that, but the board Trumpettes have no interest in reality.

 

[CornusKousa]

Australia already requires everyone to vote. Maybe more people would pay attention to what they are voting for.

Yeah, I would have mentioned that, but the board Trumpettes have no interest in reality.

Mad about the lack of authority and force being applied to people??

LOL....control freaks who's lust for control and force upon others knows no bounds.


If you don't want to vote, you shouldn't have to vote. Freedom and all that.....no matter how much you and the left fucking hate it, are enraged by it and detest any form of it....LIBERTY is what the USA is all about.

Stay mad about it guys!!!

 

[jaF0]

There could even be a box to check to abstain; 'None of the above' or 'I choose not to vote', but the ballot would have to be returned. Then maybe do something like the Census does by sending a reminder.

Deadlines and cutoff dates would have to be worked out.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

They keep trying to block people from voting. Several have made statements like 'If they vote, we lose' and other such nonsense.

So what about 'making' everyone vote? OK, you can't really force anyone to, but you CAN send everyone a ballot that they can fill out at home and send back without cost.

Imagine the cost savings on polling place operations for one.

The GOP and the ruling elite have done a great job of disenfranchising voters and then justifying it with assertions like having everyone present ID to vote - which, let's face it, really is just common sense once you swallow the lie that there is voter fraud.

So how do you link voting with an established practice that already guarantees identity?

 

[CornusKousa]

There could even be a box to check to abstain; 'None of the above' or 'I choose not to vote', but the ballot would have to be returned. Then maybe do something like the Census does by sending a reminder.

Or maybe the people who want to vote can request a ballot or get off their ass like they always have??

Why are you so desperate to fix what isn't broken??

Deadlines and cutoff dates would have to be worked out.

Sounds like voter suppression to me

 

[YDB95]

Australia already requires everyone to vote. Maybe more people would pay attention to what they are voting for.

My concern is that they wouldn't. Uninformed voting is already a huge problem in America ("Al Gore said he invented the internet!"), and if people can't be bothered to read a newspaper, I'd just as soon they don't vote. If it were compulsory, I envision an uncomfortably large number of people just showing up and randomly voting without knowing anything about what their candidate stands for. Or worse yet, pulling the lever for the American Nazi party because the candidate has the same last name as their high school crush.

On the other hand, the crazy right really gets off on refusing to do anything the government says they should...maybe if we made voting compulsory, they'd make a point of not voting.

 

[EmptyTank]

funny how quickly we went from russia russia russia to there is no such thing as proven voter fraud
and a nation where everyone still pretty much shares a common view for the nature and direction of their culture cannot be compared to one so deeply divided as this one is
it is easy to have trust in the other party when both of them share a unified vision of what the country will be but we do not have a unified vision here we have diametrically opposed forms of governmental polity
this is easily proven by the remarks in the other thread where democrats are gloating over the concept of one party rule which clearly tends to lead towards dictatorship just look to the myriad of nations who have achieved the status of one party rule
most of those countries also enjoy mandatory voting if you know what is good for you which brings up the question of why mandatory voting if it is not to get you on record

 

[Champakian]

So disenfranchisement is real, but fraud cannot possibly be real...







Can you prove disenfranchisement?