Handkerchiefs would do as much as masks

[renard_ruse]

Wouldn't it make more sense to carry a handkerchief and hold it up to one's nose and mouth when one is about to sneeze or cough or when in close proximity to others rather than wear a mask all the time over one's breathing organs? This is what people did up until a couple of generations ago.

This would seem to make a lot more sense, cause less oxygen deprivation and short and long term health issues caused by masks, avoid the false sense of security that people seem to get from masks, and be just as effective (or just as ineffective). It would also be a lot less stupid.

 

[Saint_Ann]

I use a bandana...a handkerchief. Been in rhe drawer longer than I care to speculate. Makes me feel anonymous in an age of cameras.

 

[renard_ruse]

Its always left ambiguous as to what exactly the purpose of the mask is supposed to be.

The best information I can find is that it is supposedly primarily for the case of an unexpected cough or sneeze and to a lesser extent for talking in proximity to someone, and only possibly in the rarest cases to prevent air being exhaled and getting into a ventilation system like some sort of Legionnaire's disease.

For all but the latter hypothetical case, a handkerchief would work as well as a mask, maybe better, without the massive negative impacts of these horrible, repressive, conformist masks. In fact, they would be more effective since some people instinctively remove the mask before sneezing or coughing; I've personally observed this on more than one occasion. The handkerchief would be the opposite, one would instinctively use it to cover during the sneeze or cough.

 

[FataMorgana]

Yes. And with a top hat and cane.

 

[HisArpy]

None of it makes ANY medical or scientific sense. In fact a new study just came out that basically says that mask mandates have done nothing to control the spread of the virus.

IMO it really comes down to the age old thing where; "if you're stick, stay home!" We know that colds are spread by people who don't follow that simple prescription and go out, or go to work, or go wherever they want while sick. Telling them to wear a mask while doing it only leads to a false sense of confidence that people are "protected" against the spread.

 

[oddity83]

None of it makes ANY medical or scientific sense. In fact a new study just came out that basically says that mask mandates have done nothing to control the spread of the virus.

IMO it really comes down to the age old thing where; "if you're stick, stay home!" We know that colds are spread by people who don't follow that simple prescription and go out, or go to work, or go wherever they want while sick. Telling them to wear a mask while doing it only leads to a false sense of confidence that people are "protected" against the spread.

Let us not forget to wash hands also. It's 2020, and we are having to remind people to wash their hands.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

None of it makes ANY medical or scientific sense. In fact a new study just came out that basically says that mask mandates have done nothing to control the spread of the virus

Utter bullshit, Rapey. Quit being fooled.

 

[Adre]

A “new study?”

Is that like Trump’s “someone told me?”

 

[LukSkyFokker]

A “new study?”

Is that like Trump’s “someone told me?”

45 told Rapey about the new study that someone told him about.

 

[MartinHeidegger]

Wouldn't it make more sense to carry a handkerchief and hold it up to one's nose and mouth when one is about to sneeze or cough or when in close proximity to others rather than wear a mask all the time over one's breathing organs? This is what people did up until a couple of generations ago.

This would seem to make a lot more sense, cause less oxygen deprivation and short and long term health issues caused by masks, avoid the false sense of security that people seem to get from masks, and be just as effective (or just as ineffective). It would also be a lot less stupid.

No, you science illiterate twat.

 

[rockcasbah]

https://typerse.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/what-did-masks-look-like-during-the-influenza-pandemic-of-1918_3.jpg?w=660&h=495


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o6L8_tkF48A/TfybfUc-9qI/AAAAAAAAAAc/HlWrRutl1fQ/s1600/flumask.jpg

https://www.nma.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0003/518169/women-with-masks-685w.jpg

 

[Adre]

And surgeons should just cough into their arms.

 

[DeluxAuto]

No, you science illiterate twat.

Add Derpy to that list.

 

[colddiesel]

Wouldn't it make more sense to carry a handkerchief and hold it up to one's nose and mouth .

In your case, a transparent plastic bag firmly secured at the neck is the recommended option.

 

[silver gurl]

I take my chances. As in I wear a mask. Two in fact. Always. I know that is a big risk

I work amongst the public and don’t trust some of you to do the right thing. (Mainly Arpy and Dr C )

 

[butters]

In your case, a transparent plastic bag firmly secured at the neck is the recommended option.

and not from the feet up! that would never do.

 

[Conager]

https://typerse.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/what-did-masks-look-like-during-the-influenza-pandemic-of-1918_3.jpg?w=660&h=495


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o6L8_tkF48A/TfybfUc-9qI/AAAAAAAAAAc/HlWrRutl1fQ/s1600/flumask.jpg

https://www.nma.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0003/518169/women-with-masks-685w.jpg

Exactly. It has been known for 100 years that masks do not arrest a pandemic. This isn't new. Faici's original statement on masks was "the" science. The walk back was a placebo designed to get people to venture put of their homes after the mass induced hysteria and disastrous lockdown policies. It was a fig leaf.

It caused people who believed in the priestly garb to engage in riskier behavior and likely increased the rate of spread. Which is fine- you want healthy members of the herd to gain immunity because it denies the virus a path to the vulnerable.

"Flattening the curve" (as actual isolation does) delays the inevitable, but it does not reduce the number of infections overall as a virus works it's way through a population.

Worse than no correlation between mask mandates and slowing the spread, there is negative correlation. As locales or States adopted mask mandates, cases continued to increase and the rate of spread increased, not decreased.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/december/21/comprehensive-analysis-of-50-states-shows-greater-spread-with-mask-mandates/?fbclid=IwAR2QvmHbRrWnB6ANNKEsd_YGCGY_ZBRf6tEef6H6aY4mw73wvlCCs2_HYbw

 

[LukSkyFokker]

*Fauci

FFS, at least know the name of the man you are mistakenly deriding.

ETA: And Ron Paul is a quasi-Libertarian draped in Conservative clothing and loathes the LGBT+ community, women, and brown people.

Is pro-life but also pro stem cell research

 

[Liar]

"Flattening the curve" (as actual isolation does) delays the inevitable, but it does not reduce the number of infections overall as a virus works it's way through a population.

It does if it buys time until there's a vaccine.

However, the main purpose is to not overburden hospitals.

 

[Conager]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/771a80122af1fa8ae5ad853734f6222b/tenor.gif

 

[LukSkyFokker]

https://i.imgur.com/xgkZ0pR.jpg

 

[Conager]

It does if it buys time until there's a vaccine.

However, the main purpose is to not overburden hospitals.

Of course. But there are people that believe that these measures actually stop the eventual spread. It doesn't. If masks actually worked we could all mask up for two weeks (although those guidelines have been dramatically reduce now that all of the relevant bodies clearly understand that asymptomatic transmission is not a thing so they're no longer saying two weeks) and the virus would die out for lack of hosts. It didn't happen at all- it didn't even slow the rate of spread, is the point

There are so-called experts who are opining that after having both doses of a vaccine shown to have a 90% efficacy rate that masks should still be worn. It's nonsense. It's a cult.

 

[silver gurl]

There are so-called experts who are opining that after having both doses of a vaccine shown to have a 90% efficacy rate that masks should still be worn. It's nonsense. It's a cult.

And the purpose of this cult?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

And the purpose of this cult?

The Lizard People invested heavily in 3M. Or, more likely, Que is a paranoid idiot.

 

[silver gurl]

The Lizard People invested heavily in 3M. Or, more likely, Que is a paranoid idiot.

Like how the vaccine will turn us into crocodiles? . That’s the best theory I have heard yet.

In other news:
“Montreal police issue more than $400,000 worth of tickets at anti-mask demo
The demonstrators took to the streets Sunday afternoon to express their displeasure with pandemic regulations such as mandatory mask wearing and physical distancing.“

Good job Montreal!