Why you can't have nice things.

[SpeareChucker]

Do you think putting a knee deep into his neck during his dying breaths for 9 fucking minutes might have contributed to... I dunno, him dying?

Nine minutes is an exaggeration, an appeal to emotion and rhetorical fallacy.

Here is an objective description of that which transpired from
a very smart guy who writes on a conservative site
(which has the virtue of detesting Trump
with every living breath they take...)
which does not describe actions of
an innocent and peaceful man:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/what-we-do-and-dont-know-now-about-george-floyds-death/



This descriptive account is taken from official documents released.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Gee, he was arrested for merely passing off a counterfeit bill !!!!
Even if he did it, that's a small-time criminal compared to what Wall Street and politicians routinely get away with.

From that video, he wasn't reaching in his pocket for a presumed gun, to justify such force after he said "I can't breathe".

It's not what you were arrested for,
but how you react to the arrest that dictates the treatment you receive.

I suggest you take a look at the link I just posted. I don't believe in trial by video...

 

[icanhelp1]

Perhaps in the cities, but out here in the Bible Belt,
there is a sense of community, justice and the
intangible feeling that race does not matter
when you do good deeds or when you
engage in bad action. We don't riot.
We don't even have "ethnic"
neighborhoods, we have
economic enclaves.

Poor white trash lives next door to black people
who similarly eschewed the provided value
of things like a free public education in
favor of some other backward notion
of what life is all about...


I think that so much of our problem is the bicameral system of government
which fosters, maintains and nurtures so much of our us against them
natural inclinations which invites politics/politicians to devolve into
division and derision which is why you get such a visceral
reaction towards minorities who tend to express their
conservatism by aligning with the Republicans
whereas Democrats truly feel that it is they
who properly speak for them based upon
something as shallow and meaningless
as skin color.

It does seem that anarchy, ANTIFA type uprisings are more prevalent in blue townships, it appears that blue states fall victim more frequently to this malaise.

I agree with your assessment of the bible belt.

The new rallying cry is the video " cowboys for Trump " where the only good democrat is a dead democrat" of course taken out of context to fomate a violent reaction from the left.

I’ve come to a place where I’ve come to the conclusion that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat. I don’t say that in the physical sense and I can already see the videos getting edited where it says I wanna go murder Democrats. No, I say that in the political sense because the Democrat agenda and policy is anti-American right now. It’s where our country’s not coming to a place if you love or hate Donald Trump, our country’s coming to a place if you love or hate America. Because that’s what it’s boiling down to. But um, but as far as Democrats go you had some great conservative candidates.

We need to have, I say the reason why the only good Democrat’s a dead Democrat, I’m saying it politically speaking and I’m saying it because we need to have the majorities in the House and the Senate. It’s the only way that we’re gonna put the brakes on a out-of-control governor. Sometimes you have to hit very rock bottom in order to make real change. It can happen in our own personal lives. It happens in community but it’s also happening in government right now. I believe our government is showing the very worst than they have, and I believe that it’s gonna bring about the very best that our country has politically speaking.

Trump retweets video and now is accused of calling for murdering democrats. Can't make this shit up.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Then just use the word defeated
unless your goal is to stir emotion...

 

[SpeareChucker]

As a Libertarian, I am not actually welcome in the group of "we..."

 

[Sean]

It's not what you were arrested for,
but how you react to the arrest that dictates the treatment you receive.

I suggest you take a look at the link I just posted. I don't believe in trial by video...

Chauvin knelt on his neck for three minutes after he became unresponsive and two minutes after another police officer confirmed there was no pulse.

The MPD lied about what happened and were caught out when the video appeared.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Chauvin knelt on his neck for three minutes after he became unresponsive and two minutes after another police officer confirmed there was no pulse.

Uh, yeah, okay.

He did not die from that.

It's in the report...

 

[bellisarius]

Nine minutes is an exaggeration, an appeal to emotion and rhetorical fallacy.

Here is an objective description of that which transpired from
a very smart guy who writes on a conservative site
(which has the virtue of detesting Trump
with every living breath they take...)
which does not describe actions of
an innocent and peaceful man:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/what-we-do-and-dont-know-now-about-george-floyds-death/



This descriptive account is taken from official documents released.

There are other inconsistencies between the public narrative and the official documents beyond what the author pointed out. One that keeps tickling the back of my mind is the speed with which EMS arrived on the scene. Who called them and when?

 

[girlsmiley]

Nine minutes is an exaggeration, an appeal to emotion and rhetorical fallacy.

Here is an objective description of that which transpired from
a very smart guy who writes on a conservative site
(which has the virtue of detesting Trump
with every living breath they take...)
which does not describe actions of
an innocent and peaceful man:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/what-we-do-and-dont-know-now-about-george-floyds-death/



This descriptive account is taken from official documents released.

That's not what I asked you.

I said, did that piece of shit crooked-cop contribute to his death?

You can't answer that.

 

[cinnefille]

I see the Australian public education system is becoming a failure as well.

I wouldn't know, I live in an American head-space. But I'll check now.

I can't complain about the legal system tho.
--Quite significant pockets of rampant racism/xenophobia DO exist in NZ/Au at an individual level, Brett Tarrant didn't arise out of the blue.
--But the system treats minorities equally, and Courts tend to lean on their side.
I suspect that it's the same in the US and the EU.

Whoever is conflating individual with systemic racism, imo has another agenda.
What is that, you think? I don't think it's as simple as POC versus Whites,

 

[icanhelp1]

Then just use the word defeated
unless your goal is to stir emotion...

My point is that the main stream media changed the intent to paint a picture of Trump calling for murder of dems.

 

[Sean]

Uh, yeah, okay.

He did not die from that.

It's in the report...

Oh, that's alright then. Just another dead nigger.

 

[girlsmiley]

Chauvin knelt on his neck for three minutes after he became unresponsive and two minutes after another police officer confirmed there was no pulse.

The MPD lied about what happened and were caught out when the video appeared.

I'm sick of of these so called constitutionalists.

They're always on and on about their fucking constitution.

Are there no rights for people who are murdered on the street because of their colour? And when we speak up they've got a problem? Isn't voicing your problems free speech? Or am I living in some kind of communist country that doesn't allow it? Am I going to be thrown in jail for saying it isn't right? Is America the new North Korea? Is that why Trump is so friendly with Kim? Because he wants America to be like them?

 

[HisArpy]

So then show the lie, liar. You said I lied, yet your incapable of pointing out where.

Ismael couldn't show where he got his info either.


This all sounds so familiar, like when you got caught lying 1-1/2 weeks ago and tried to deflect and dance around your lies.


Derpy gonna lie.

It looks to me that you've invested a lot of bullshit in trying to prove that you're not a loudmouth troll despite all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

But, you do you because ain't nobody gonna do you like you do be do be do...

 

[HisArpy]

I'm sick of of these so called constitutionalists.

They're always on and on about their fucking constitution.

Are there no rights for people who are murdered on the street because of their colour? And when we speak up they've got a problem? Isn't voicing your problems free speech? Or am I living in some kind of communist country that doesn't allow it? Am I going to be thrown in jail for saying it isn't right? Is America the new North Korea? Is that why Trump is so friendly with Kim? Because he wants America to be like them?

When you ever decide that you're going to come here and become a US citizen, THEN you can talk about "constitutionalists".

Until then, you're just another loudmouthed troll stirring your shit soup. Enjoy your lunch.

 

[SpeareChucker]

There are other inconsistencies between the public narrative and the official documents beyond what the author pointed out. One that keeps tickling the back of my mind is the speed with which EMS arrived on the scene. Who called them and when?

That's not what I asked you.

I said, did that piece of shit crooked-cop contribute to his death?

You can't answer that.

That's right, I cannot answer it because unlike so many others
I am still waiting on the results of an investigation.
The guy was under the influence, possibly a
habitual user and violent enough that
THREE officers were holding him
down. It is quite possible that
the picture and the original
narrative do not tell
the full story.

His involvement, under the circumstances,
could have just been circumstantial...

a coincidence.

There is a problem with instant judgement and mob justice
which is why we employ officers who deserve our
support until properly proven undeserving.

If not,
who would police?
Not anyone in their right mind!

 

[bestone4ever]

I'm sick of of these so called constitutionalists.

They're always on and on about their fucking constitution.

Are there no rights for people who are murdered on the street because of their colour? And when we speak up they've got a problem? Isn't voicing your problems free speech? Or am I living in some kind of communist country that doesn't allow it? Am I going to be thrown in jail for saying it isn't right? Is America the new North Korea? Is that why Trump is so friendly with Kim? Because he wants America to be like them?

They love the Consitution because it was written by cowardly old racist white men like themselves.

 

[cinnefille]

I see the Australian public education system is becoming a failure as well.

Hahaha.
Now I get it.
It was a dig at GirlSmiley!

 

[SpeareChucker]

My point is that the main stream media changed the intent to paint a picture of Trump calling for murder of dems.

Then, sorry (politely) you didn't make it well.

Oh, that's alright then. Just another dead nigger.

Nice to see how your mind works...

 

[SpeareChucker]

I'm sick of of these so called constitutionalists.

They're always on and on about their fucking constitution.

Are there no rights for people who are murdered on the street because of their colour? And when we speak up they've got a problem? Isn't voicing your problems free speech? Or am I living in some kind of communist country that doesn't allow it? Am I going to be thrown in jail for saying it isn't right? Is America the new North Korea? Is that why Trump is so friendly with Kim? Because he wants America to be like them?

He had rights.
Resisting a lawful arrest is not one of them.

 

[girlsmiley]

When you ever decide that you're going to come here and become a US citizen, THEN you can talk about "constitutionalists".

Until then, you're just another loudmouthed troll stirring your shit soup. Enjoy your lunch.

Sure. Disregard the shit soup generated by your fucked up system and then tell foreigners if they don't agree to shut the fuck up. Great for the tourism economy.

What a dipshit. Open your eyes.

 

[Sean]

Then, sorry (politely) you didn't make it well.



Nice to see how your mind works...

My mind doesn't work like that, your comment implies that yours does.

 

[bestone4ever]

Sure. Disregard the shit soup generated by your fucked up system and then tell foreigners if they don't agree to shut the fuck up. Great for the tourism economy.

What a dipshit. Open your eyes.

He's too dumb to realize that foreigners founded this country.

 

[girlsmiley]

He had rights.
Resisting a lawful arrest is not one of them.

He had a right to live. What about that right?

What about civil rights?

 

[myrionomos]

The official report said that death was not likely due to strangulation. Considering the attitude of the dead man's head and the prolonged placement of the policeman's knee, it is likely he suffered a lack of blood supply/oxygen to the brain - and they do not have the full lab reports on that yet.