Hydroxychoroquine/Azithromycin/Zinc Sulfate

[Conager]

I guess when you have no case, you go for the "reasonable doubt"

not buying it

No. You always go for reasonable doubt. Conviction depends upon whether not the prosecution has an actual case.

It's never the job of the defendant to prove anything. They don't have a "case" to prove, the prosecution does.

He is not wrong, he did leave out one possibility though. Without a doubt, significant numbers of people who have been given the drug have survived. So either the disease is very survivable, the drug works, or the placebo effect works. If it's the placebo effect working then the rest of you shouldn't fuck with the only thing that we've got at the moment.

 

[Comshaw]

No. You always go for reasonable doubt. Conviction depends upon whether not the prosecution has an actual case.

It's never the job of the defendant to prove anything. They don't have a "case" to prove, the prosecution does.

He is not wrong, he did leave out one possibility though. Without a doubt, significant numbers of people who have been given the drug have survived. So either the disease is very survivable, the drug works, or the placebo effect works. If it's the placebo effect working then the rest of you shouldn't fuck with the only thing that we've got at the moment.

Yes and just as many who have been given the drug have died. So what does that prove? That there MAY BE a link between the use of the drug and it's effectiveness against the virus. However, so far, we have no credible evidence that it actually does anything at all to combat the Corvid virus.


Comshaw

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Edibles Gentlemen, the way of the future...

I have some green dragon for sublingual ingestion ready to go - and a new more potent batch brewing.

Everclear - is that anything it can't do?

 

[silver gurl]

I no longer go by what the media says on this. I go by inside knowledge and who is administering it.

 

[Klinkster]

If the leftists would look at things objectively, rather than looking for something to blame and attack Trump about, you might have credibility......

But, again as I said, when your a hammer, everything is a nail.

"The reason so many reporters jumped on the study and confronted the White House task force with it, is because President Trump has been promoting the anti-malaria drug as a possible treatment for the coronavirus. So of course the media had to prove him wrong."

"It's not a clinical study," Wilike explained. "It was done on a small number of veterans. Sadly, those who were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortn...cq-study-the-media-is-obsessing-over-n2567406

 

[chillywilly2]

No. You always go for reasonable doubt. Conviction depends upon whether not the prosecution has an actual case.

It's never the job of the defendant to prove anything. They don't have a "case" to prove, the prosecution does.

He is not wrong, he did leave out one possibility though. Without a doubt, significant numbers of people who have been given the drug have survived. So either the disease is very survivable, the drug works, or the placebo effect works. If it's the placebo effect working then the rest of you shouldn't fuck with the only thing that we've got at the moment.

Actually, what I read today said that more have died taking it and also that there can be severe side effects, heart attacks for one.
My take from all this is that none of you would be supporting taking it other than to defend a president that is grasping at straws to get reelected.

 

[Conager]

Your take is backwards. If Donald Trump had never mentioned it a you wouldn't be talking about it at all and if your doctor told you, "Listen, you've got Covid1 9, it looks like it's progressing it's going to get serious. You're probably going to be hospitalized. We have something we've been trying it's really not approve for that it's an off label use but I've had some good results with it do you want to try it or do you want to try nothing?" there's not a chance in hell you wouldn't try it.

Its TDS that made this controversial. Should be something doctors and patients decide about, and that is where ALL of the actual decisions are being made.

Did ads sell more prosaic? Sure. But you still needed a Doctor to agree that in-your-case it us appropriate.

You guys need gir Trump to be wrong. He has repeatedly emphasized that he is not a doctor and that he is hopeful. Him being a hopeful harms absolutely no one and does not in any way of solve doctors from responsibility of properly counseling there patience and deciding whether it is medically indicated or not.

So just knock off this disingenuous concern for people that you don't know haven't counselled with, know nothing about their medical history but yet you're quite sure about something that you know less than Donald Trump about. He at least has personally talked to some doctors about it. Have you? No you haven't. Did he correctly understand what he was told? Did he convey that meaningfully? Does it matter?

This is a medical issue. You guys need it to be a political issue know one on team Trump needs it to be a political issue. You guys need it to not work because you need to be right because it makes you feel a lot smarter, which is a core identity of the left. Join team lefty and you can be smart, too.

Go back to the beginning of the earliest discussions on lit about the virus forget this particular drug talk about every panic-stricken prediction of the panicking left and compare that to the predictions of the skeptical right and who's beem a lot damn closer to correct now then you guys were then? You guys were completely wrong and we were damned closed so just shut up with your smug sense of superiority when you don't know anything more than the hysteria you have willingly participated in.

 

[HisArpy]

Your take is backwards. If Donald Trump had never mentioned it a you wouldn't be talking about it at all and if your doctor told you, "Listen, you've got Covid1 9, it looks like it's progressing it's going to get serious. You're probably going to be hospitalized. We have something we've been trying it's really not approve for that it's an off label use but I've had some good results with it do you want to try it or do you want to try nothing?" there's not a chance in hell you wouldn't try it.

Its TDS that made this controversial. Should be something doctors and patients decide about, and that is where ALL of the actual decisions are being made.

Did ads sell more prosaic? Sure. But you still needed a Doctor to agree that in-your-case it us appropriate.

You guys need gir Trump to be wrong. He has repeatedly emphasized that he is not a doctor and that he is hopeful. Him being a hopeful harms absolutely no one and does not in any way of solve doctors from responsibility of properly counseling there patience and deciding whether it is medically indicated or not.

So just knock off this disingenuous concern for people that you don't know haven't counselled with, know nothing about their medical history but yet you're quite sure about something that you know less than Donald Trump about. He at least has personally talked to some doctors about it. Have you? No you haven't. Did he correctly understand what he was told? Did he convey that meaningfully? Does it matter?

This is a medical issue. You guys need it to be a political issue know one on team Trump needs it to be a political issue. You guys need it to not work because you need to be right because it makes you feel a lot smarter, which is a core identity of the left. Join team lefty and you can be smart, too.

Go back to the beginning of the earliest discussions on lit about the virus forget this particular drug talk about every panic-stricken prediction of the panicking left and compare that to the predictions of the skeptical right and who's beem a lot damn closer to correct now then you guys were then? You guys were completely wrong and we were damned closed so just shut up with your smug sense of superiority when you don't know anything more than the hysteria you have willingly participated in.

Progressivism should come with a surgeon general's warning label:

Danger, highly addictive and can lead to social toxicity and Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

[Klinkster]

Meanwhile, back in Nevada, a bunch of doctors, are filing, or have, a wrongful death suit against Governor not-a-doctor Steve Sisolak, and his flunkie not-a-doctor Ihsan Azzam, the Nevada chief medical officer.

Sisolak's EO, made it a misdemeanor for any doctor to prescribe it for any non-approved use, which, included, at the time, the Chinese virus. Even after the FDA DID approve it for the virus, the order was only changed, to allow only in hospital doctors to prescribe it.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...er-limits-on-drugs-to-treat-covid-19-2011727/

 

[chillywilly2]

If Trump didn't repeatedly profess to be smarter than the doctors people may listen a bit more.
All he ever does is tell you how smart he is and what a hero he is.

He says he fixed the economy...he didn't do fuck all except relax regulation and taxes.
Any moron could do that.
When nothing matters more than making a buck and you have control of the rule book its easy.

As soon as you have to care about people it gets tough.

Not everybody is rich and smart. Some struggle to feed themselves.
Running a country is about taking care of everybody.
Trump does not take care of everybody...he takes care of himself.

If he wouldn't have tried to be a hero with this drug maybe people would have given it a chance but 3 1/2 years of listening to his bullshit...well, he is making you guys money so you love him, not everybody does

 

[HisArpy]

If Trump didn't repeatedly profess to be smarter than the doctors people may listen a bit more.
All he ever does is tell you how smart he is and what a hero he is.

Lie.

He says he fixed the economy...he didn't do fuck all except relax regulation and taxes.
Any moron could do that.
When nothing matters more than making a buck and you have control of the rule book its easy.

Lie #2.

As soon as you have to care about people it gets tough.

Truth. Except you make it seem like it applies to your political ideology when it doesn't.

Not everybody is rich and smart. Some struggle to feed themselves.
Running a country is about taking care of everybody.
Trump does not take care of everybody...he takes care of himself.

Lie #3.

If he wouldn't have tried to be a hero with this drug maybe people would have given it a chance but 3 1/2 years of listening to his bullshit...well, he is making you guys money so you love him, not everybody does

Nothing but bullshit.

 

[icanhelp1]

Meanwhile, back in Nevada, a bunch of doctors, are filing, or have, a wrongful death suit against Governor not-a-doctor Steve Sisolak, and his flunkie not-a-doctor Ihsan Azzam, the Nevada chief medical officer.

Sisolak's EO, made it a misdemeanor for any doctor to prescribe it for any non-approved use, which, included, at the time, the Chinese virus. Even after the FDA DID approve it for the virus, the order was only changed, to allow only in hospital doctors to prescribe it.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...er-limits-on-drugs-to-treat-covid-19-2011727/

Does the patient get a vote?

 

[Klinkster]

See??? There is your problem. Glad you see it!
It's not about whether a drug combo works or not. It's about TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!
OMB!!!!
Trump says it may work....it's bad.
If he said it doesn't work, it would be great, and you'd call him a Nazi.

But hey....any moron could see your problem. It's called TDS.
Symptom 1: Loss of any and all objectivity on anything.

If Trump didn't repeatedly profess to be smarter than the doctors people may listen a bit more.
All he ever does is tell you how smart he is and what a hero he is.

He says he fixed the economy...he didn't do fuck all except relax regulation and taxes.
Any moron could do that.
When nothing matters more than making a buck and you have control of the rule book its easy.

As soon as you have to care about people it gets tough.

Not everybody is rich and smart. Some struggle to feed themselves.
Running a country is about taking care of everybody.
Trump does not take care of everybody...he takes care of himself.

If he wouldn't have tried to be a hero with this drug maybe people would have given it a chance but 3 1/2 years of listening to his bullshit...well, he is making you guys money so you love him, not everybody does

 

[Klinkster]

Does the patient get a vote?

Dead people only vote for democrats.

 

[chillywilly2]

Lie.



Lie #2.



Truth. Except you make it seem like it applies to your political ideology when it doesn't.



Lie #3.



Nothing but bullshit.

thats so sweet

pats on the head

 

[chillywilly2]

See??? There is your problem. Glad you see it!
It's not about whether a drug combo works or not. It's about TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!
OMB!!!!
Trump says it may work....it's bad.
If he said it doesn't work, it would be great, and you'd call him a Nazi.

But hey....any moron could see your problem. It's called TDS.
Symptom 1: Loss of any and all objectivity on anything.

Trump didn't say it may work, he said it was going to be a miracle drug and he discovered it

 

[HisArpy]

thats so sweet

pats on the head

Not our fault you can't keep up with the rest of the class.

 

[Klinkster]

Trump didn't say it may work, he said it was going to be a miracle drug and he discovered it

Bullshit.
He said it may be a game changer. He didn't say it was.

Again, you prove you are a TDS suffering moron.

 

[HisArpy]

Trump didn't say it may work, he said it was going to be a miracle drug and he discovered it

Lie #4.


It's like you just can't help yourself...

 

[chillywilly2]

Lie #4.


It's like you just can't help yourself...

Blinders are to keep horses safe in traffic...you really should take yours off

 

[schism666]

Dead people only vote for democrats.

lies.

 

[Klinkster]

Blinders are to keep horses safe in traffic...you really should take yours off

Says the guy suffering from TDS, and cranial rectalitus.

 

[sygn]

If Trump didn't repeatedly profess to be smarter than the doctors people may listen a bit more.

yup.

Not everybody is rich and smart. Some struggle to feed themselves.
Running a country is about taking care of everybody.

...well, he is making you guys money so you love him, not everybody does

yes, I was wondering about that with folks like BotBoy 1-2 more - directly benefitting, or whether they invested in some corporations, that sort of thing...

But not all of them. You can see a well-structured logic & arguments behind their thinking.

 

[chillywilly2]

Says the guy suffering from TDS, and cranial rectalitus.

I didn't always suffer from it...it's caused by listening to the dummy for too long
Please not another 4 years...can't the repubs find somebody to step in for him....and not Pence...jeez

 

[Conager]

I didn't always suffer from it...it's caused by listening to the dummy for too long
Please not another 4 years...can't the repubs find somebody to step in for him....and not Pence...jeez

At least you're still sane enough to recognize the fact that assuming a partially saying electric there's no way in hell Joe Biden becomes the 46th president.

I say drop Pence, pick up Nikki Haley. Give it a few months into the next term declare victory and retire to go golf and collect that sweet "speaking fee" circuit money.