Another Trump first: Speaking at March for Life

[OldJourno]

Previous Republican presidents have said they opposed abortion but none of them bothered to speak at March for Life events, even the one right there in Washington, D.C.
Trump will change all that tomorrow.
With the country fairly evenly divided on the issue, do you think this is a big deal or a nothing burger?

 

[OldJourno]

"While civility is an imperative in a decent society, we can't ignore that Trump's coarseness has also helped reveal the liberal establishment's incivility and disdain for anyone who refuses to adopt its cultural mores. I'm sorry, I have a hard time taking etiquette lessons from people who can't raise any ire over the Virginia governor's casual description of euthanizing infants but act as if every Trump tweet should trigger his removal from office through the 25th Amendment." —David Harsanyi

 

[OldJourno]

"It's great that Trump is speaking at the [March for Life]. But the most meaningful thing he can do is defund Planned Parenthood. ... Trump could announce that he will not sign any spending bill that sends 500 million dollars to Planned Parenthood. Let Dems force a shutdown to protect their half a billion dollar gift to the abortion industry. Let them bring that argument to the public." — Matt Walsh

 

[phrodeau]

Trump is just building his C. V. for next year.

 

[PaxNurgle]

"It's great that Trump is speaking at the [March for Life]. But the most meaningful thing he can do is defund Planned Parenthood. ... Trump could announce that he will not sign any spending bill that sends 500 million dollars to Planned Parenthood. Let Dems force a shutdown to protect their half a billion dollar gift to the abortion industry. Let them bring that argument to the public." — Matt Walsh

So... No more abortions, but then no more funding for birth control either, or any health organizations that might help women and family planning. What is this, the handmaiden's tale? Sheesh. Even a kid can see the hypocracy here.

I always get a kick out of people that care more about "Saving the unborn" than about helping the women who will carry these children, often against their will. (Well, rather, I would rather kick them, then get a kick out of them, so to speak. Some of these people wish it really WAS like "The Handmaiden's Tale."

 

[OldJourno]

So... No more abortions, but then no more funding for birth control either, or any health organizations that might help women and family planning. What is this, the handmaiden's tale? Sheesh. Even a kid can see the hypocracy here.

I always get a kick out of people that care more about "Saving the unborn" than about helping the women who will carry these children, often against their will. (Well, rather, I would rather kick them, then get a kick out of them, so to speak. Some of these people wish it really WAS like "The Handmaiden's Tale."

Funding for birth control? Can you give me a coherent reason why I should pay for some stranger's birth control?
And pardon me for not being familiar with the plotline of The Handmaid's Tale, but I'm pretty sure whatever it is, no one I know would want to live in it.

 

[chillywilly2]

Funding for birth control? Can you give me a coherent reason why I should pay for some stranger's birth control?
And pardon me for not being familiar with the plotline of The Handmaid's Tale, but I'm pretty sure whatever it is, no one I know would want to live in it.

You don't pay for some strangers birth control, and you don't pay for abortions either.
You pay a little bit for the betterment of society and you elect the people you see fit to decide exactly how to spend it, because, you aren't informed enough to hand it out yourself..oh, and trump...POS

 

[bestone4ever]

You don't pay for some strangers birth control, and you don't pay for abortions either.
You pay a little bit for the betterment of society and you elect the people you see fit to decide exactly how to spend it, because, you aren't informed enough to hand it out yourself..oh, and trump...POS

Well done, sir. Well done.

 

[OldJourno]

You don't pay for some strangers birth control, and you don't pay for abortions either.
You pay a little bit for the betterment of society and you elect the people you see fit to decide exactly how to spend it, because, you aren't informed enough to hand it out yourself..oh, and trump...POS

We better society by performing millions of abortions and now we're moving toward killing babies after they're born.
No, I don't vote for people who support that. People who think that betters society are pieces of shit.

 

[Comshaw]

"While civility is an imperative in a decent society, we can't ignore that Trump's coarseness has also helped reveal the liberal establishment's incivility and disdain for anyone who refuses to adopt its cultural mores. I'm sorry, I have a hard time taking etiquette lessons from people who can't raise any ire over the Virginia governor's casual description of euthanizing infants but act as if every Trump tweet should trigger his removal from office through the 25th Amendment." —David Harsanyi

Because I'm just a semi-educated blue collar guy a few things needs clarification:

So Mr. Harsany states that,"...that Trump's coarseness has also helped reveal the liberal establishment's incivility and disdain for anyone who refuses to adopt its cultural mores." In other words, the end justifies the means no matter what? Or does he imply that liberals are trying to force those who do not want an abortion to have one? Perhaps it is that the liberals have nefariously kept hidden their "incivility and disdain" for those who oppose abortion and the Donald, using his uncivil and disdainful ways has outed them for the disrespectful, contemptuous black hearts they are? Are they about to bomb a bunch of antiabortion protestors because of this?

Additionally Mr. Harsany states, "...Virginia governor's casual description of euthanizing infants...". Hold the phone! When did this happen? Are the fucking libs bashing infants heads against rocks? When did they start killing infants? Oh wait, does he means embryo not infant? Or does he mean denying them adequate food, shelter and medical attention after they are born? Putting the might be life of an embryo above the real life of a living child?

Yes, I think I need some clarification on this statement.

"It's great that Trump is speaking at the [March for Life]. But the most meaningful thing he can do is defund Planned Parenthood. ... Trump could announce that he will not sign any spending bill that sends 500 million dollars to Planned Parenthood. Let Dems force a shutdown to protect their half a billion dollar gift to the abortion industry. Let them bring that argument to the public." — Matt Walsh

Reality check:
Since 1977 the the Hyde Amendment has made it illegal to use federal dollars to fund abortion. Therefore NONE of the $500 million stated can go to abortion. ALL of it would go to pay for women's health care, primarily those who can not afford it, such as: mammograms, birth control, pelvic exams, pap smears and other health related tests and procedures. In effect Mr. Walsh is advocating cutting funds that are used for the health and welfare of women, primarily those who can't afford it else where, to stop a program run by Planned Parenthood, even though withdrawing those funds would have no effect on the program he wishes to stop? WTF?

It seems to me this is a" burn the house down with the women in it to get rid of the spider" mind set. We should cut those funds, allow a whole section of the female population to go without healthcare, something that could save many of their lives, to stop a program that is neither funded by nor connected to the tax dollars being with held? And you see this as sensible and productive? You think this will stop abortions?

And they wonder why the political atmosphere in this country is so acrimonious.


Comshaw

 

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Nothing really new to see here. Cheeto already got that t-shirt.

I will admit that it is hil-fucking-larious that Cheeto's hypocritical shitstain ass and the right-to-life lemmings who think he actually gives a fuck when he's just killing time before Golf Weekend Vacation #245* is a virtual marriage made in heaven.

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*by the by, this is not an arbitrary number I made up for effect. You can track Cheeto's current golf outings, as well as the current total cost of them to the American taxpayers, right here: https://trumpgolfcount.com/

 

[chillywilly2]

Because I'm just a semi-educated blue collar guy a few things needs clarification:

So Mr. Harsany states that,"...that Trump's coarseness has also helped reveal the liberal establishment's incivility and disdain for anyone who refuses to adopt its cultural mores." In other words, the end justifies the means no matter what? Or does he imply that liberals are trying to force those who do not want an abortion to have one? Perhaps it is that the liberals have nefariously kept hidden their "incivility and disdain" for those who oppose abortion and the Donald, using his uncivil and disdainful ways has outed them for the disrespectful, contemptuous black hearts they are? Are they about to bomb a bunch of antiabortion protestors because of this?

Additionally Mr. Harsany states, "...Virginia governor's casual description of euthanizing infants...". Hold the phone! When did this happen? Are the fucking libs bashing infants heads against rocks? When did they start killing infants? Oh wait, does he means embryo not infant? Or does he mean denying them adequate food, shelter and medical attention after they are born? Putting the might be life of an embryo above the real life of a living child?

Yes, I think I need some clarification on this statement.




Reality check:
Since 1977 the the Hyde Amendment has made it illegal to use federal dollars to fund abortion. Therefore NONE of the $500 million stated can go to abortion. ALL of it would go to pay for women's health care, primarily those who can not afford it, such as: mammograms, birth control, pelvic exams, pap smears and other health related tests and procedures. In effect Mr. Walsh is advocating cutting funds that are used for the health and welfare of women, primarily those who can't afford it else where, to stop a program run by Planned Parenthood, even though withdrawing those funds would have no effect on the program he wishes to stop? WTF?

It seems to me this is a" burn the house down with the women in it to get rid of the spider" mind set. We should cut those funds, allow a whole section of the female population to go without healthcare, something that could save many of their lives, to stop a program that is neither funded by nor connected to the tax dollars being with held? And you see this as sensible and productive? You think this will stop abortions?

And they wonder why the political atmosphere in this country is so acrimonious.


Comshaw

Kinda why I said the old guy wasn't informed enough...maybe to even vote

 

[DMBFFF]

Previous Republican presidents have said they opposed abortion but none of them bothered to speak at March for Life events, even the one right there in Washington, D.C.
...

Are you sure of that?

A good journalist would probably check that one out.

...
With the country fairly evenly divided on the issue,
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I'm not sure of that either.

...do you think this is a big deal or a nothing burger?

It's a big deal for Trumpsters, but they are a bit of a minority in the US, at least the pro-lifers.

...
people who can't raise any ire over the Virginia governor's casual description of euthanizing infants
...

Who's killing babies? i.e. post-natal humans?

and if you're going to count prenatal, that's include sperm donations.

Funding for birth control? Can you give me a coherent reason why I should pay for some stranger's birth control?
And pardon me for not being familiar with the plotline of The Handmaid's Tale, but I'm pretty sure whatever it is, no one I know would want to live in it.

Most pro-lifers don't want just no funding for others' abortions, they want to ban it entirely.

As for THT, I think some pro-lifers would be okay with executing those who do abortions—it has that similarity.

[explains]

this.



Much of the anti-abortion movement is mysogynistic—as is, to an extent, Christianity.

It disincentivizes parents to not want daughters because they'd either have to raise their children—i.e. their grandchildren—and/or their daughters being sequestered.

Happier are the parents with sons who can screw around and still be relatively free if they get someone pregnant.

The wishes of women are at best secondary to Trumpsters: some, like Busybigot, would deny them the vote.


I can't blame most American women disliking Trump or Trumpsters.

 

[bestone4ever]

The first republican to be impeached!