How To Get To Heaven When You Die

DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 44 50.6%
  • I ALREADY PLACED MY FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE

    Votes: 22 25.3%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 13 14.9%

  • Total voters
    87
My 'Proof' is the eyewitnesses who saw Him AFTER His resurrection, the eyewitness testimony of the Bible

Right the "bible" which is what exactly? A bunch of ??? Nothing Tangible to see here..:eek:

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the Secular Writings of Him and His resurrection from His day and shortly thereafter by those who were contemporary with Him

So to paraphrase that, hearsay evidence. :(


and shortly thereafter, the early Church writings, the Apocryphal writings, the explosion of Christianity after the resurrection (Had He not risen from the dead, He would have been exposed as a fraud and Christianity would have died then and there)

"Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically, although the quest for the historical Jesus has produced little agreement on the historical reliability of the Gospels and on how closely the Jesus portrayed in the Bible reflects the historical Jesus.":)


, the changed lives, the fulfilled prophecies of the Bible of Christ, Israel and other issues and on and on and on...

In Jewish eschatology, the term Messiah came to refer to a future Jewish king from the Davidic line, who will be "anointed" with holy anointing oil, to be king of God's kingdom, and rule the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. In Judaism, the Messiah is not considered to be God or a pre-existent divine Son of God. He is considered to be a great political leader that has descended from King David. That is why he is referred to as Messiah ben David, which means "Messiah, son of David". The messiah, in Judaism, is considered to be a great, charismatic leader that is well oriented with the laws that are followed in Judaism. He will be the one who will not "judge by what his eyes see" or "decide by what his ears hear".

So right there two interpretations, Jesus is the son of God, or Jesus is the Messiah.

There are how many off shoots of this? oh don't forget Islam is also one.

The Quran identifies Jesus (Isa) as the messiah (Masih), who will one day return to earth. At the time of the second coming, "according to Islamic tradition, Jesus will come again and exercise his power of healing. He will forever destroy falsehood, as embodied in the Daj-jal, the great falsifier, the anti-Christ. Then God will reign forever."

My FAITH is backed up by the evidence. Your FAITH that it's not true isn't.

So seems the evidence of your faith is not all that clear.

Ummm my faith is pretty true. Just out of curiosity, do you even have an idea of my faith? I doubt it, some Christians seem to forget their Christian teaching, except the parts that fit their own picture of their faith.:cool:
 
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Wow, is this still going?

So, you've had a year since I last asked, did you come up with a reason Christianity is true that could not also be claimed with equal validity by another religion?
 
I don't think that all Christians should be painted by the same brush as those who commit crimes and war in Christ's name. That would be like saying all atheists are responsible for the wars that occur by non-believers.

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003

Religion is not the problem....people are the problem.
 
Wow, is this still going?

So, you've had a year since I last asked, did you come up with a reason Christianity is true that could not also be claimed with equal validity by another religion?

Other religions are about man trying to reach God. Christianity is the only one where God reaches out to man.
 
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Wow, is this still going?

So, you've had a year since I last asked, did you come up with a reason Christianity is true that could not also be claimed with equal validity by another religion?

ok, he claimed Trump has become a Christian, I asked for proof, so I guess I should not hold my breath for an answer?
 
I don't think that all Christians should be painted by the same brush as those who commit crimes and war in Christ's name. That would be like saying all atheists are responsible for the wars that occur by non-believers.

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003

Religion is not the problem....people are the problem.
You think Hitler was non-religious? What do you think motivated him to dispose of Jews?
 
You really need to expand your religious learning.

Pretty vague for someone who has no idea what I have or haven't learned.

You think Hitler was non-religious? What do you think motivated him to dispose of Jews?

I was commenting on the above posts that talked about Christianity and the death of people because of it. Hitler may have hated a religious group but he turned away from his Catholic upbringing and took to his father's views that were atheistic.
 
I don't think that all Christians should be painted by the same brush as those who commit crimes and war in Christ's name. That would be like saying all atheists are responsible for the wars that occur by non-believers.

Non-Religious Dictator Lives Lost
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003

Religion is not the problem....people are the problem.

But how many of those were killing people BECAUSE they were atheists, rather than it being a side note about their personality? Wheras religious leaders have been telling people to kill others for religious regions for centuries.

Plus, you know, the whole hypocrasy thing of a Christian condoning the killing of others when god is pretty clear what he thinks about that.
 
Other religions are about man trying to reach God. Christianity is the only one where God reaches out to man.

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Judaism - its quite clear that God reaches out to man, and gives him the commandments.

Islam - God sent an angel to talk to Mohammed.

Sikhism - Guru Nanak was literally taken to heaven to visit god to be told to spread word of the new religion.

And of course, Buddhism doesn't even have a god (or at the very most, consideres god to be irrelevant).
 
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Judaism - its quite clear that God reaches out to man, and gives him the commandments.

Islam - God sent an angel to talk to Mohammed.

Sikhism - Guru Nanak was literally taken to heaven to visit god to be told to spread word of the new religion.

And of course, Buddhism doesn't even have a god (or at the very most, consideres god to be irrelevant).

Name another faith where God takes the punishment for the shortcomings of man.
 
But how many of those were killing people BECAUSE they were atheists, rather than it being a side note about their personality? Wheras religious leaders have been telling people to kill others for religious regions for centuries.

Plus, you know, the whole hypocrasy thing of a Christian condoning the killing of others when god is pretty clear what he thinks about that.

You made my point for me. Having a faith or not having a faith doesn't matter when it comes the killing of others. Religious leaders are people. Some are hypocrites. Atheists may not be hypocrites but there is something seriously wrong with them as people to do such killing. The Christian faith did not kill those people but some of their hypocritical followers did for their own agenda.
 
It is nessesary for compassion. The Christian God knows what we are going through because he walked a mile (and more) in our shoes.

Wouldn't being omnipotent and being able to see into everyone's hearts and inside everyone's minds cover that?
 
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