How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[phrodeau]

Jesus is the only way to heaven. He is not a way, but the only way. All other religions are false. That's according to Jesus Christ Himself. As far as Faith goes, you FAITH has to be in Christ alone, believing that He died on the cross and rose from the dead, shedding His blood as a Sacrifice for your sins. Faith in anything else is not going to save you, no matter how sincere you are.

Sadistic barbarism. I suppose you want to drink that blood, too.

 

[Conager]

Sadistic barbarism. I suppose you want to drink that blood, too.

How do you feel about Islam the "religion of peace?"

Judaism? Bahá'í Faith? Are you derisive about all Abrahamic religions or only Christianity? 3.8 billion people believe Abraham had some sort of divine contact and was enlightened from the experience.

Whatabout Buddhism? Hinduism? Sikhism,? Jainism? Taoism? Confusiousism?

How do you feel about Zoroastrianism, Yazdânism, Uatsdin, Yarsanism, and Gnosticism?

Would the added context of aboriginal people and imported African concepts added to strains of Christianity increase your bigoted derision or moderate it?

I guess what I'm asking is your bigotry universal or Christian specific?

How do you feel about non-denominational new-age spirituality?

Paganism?

In my view Christianity has done far more to benefit mankind then your fabricated, modern religion of global warming ever will.

 

[Conager]

What people forget is something called faith. You can look at all the religions or even atheism and unless the evidence is accepted by you, you won't put you faith or trust in it. There are a lot of people that know the insights of the bible better than I do. I just totaled it up and I put my faith in Christ 35 years ago. I'd like to say I was saved at birth to hide my age, but in all transparency I was 18. I had finally said I can't do this (life) anymore as it is. I need you.

Why do Christians want to share about Christ? I give the example of pizza. Yes, I have issues with food. Say you have eaten the best pizza you have ever had. Someone is having a hard time finding good pizza, they start a thread here on pizza, or they are just hurting hungry might you suggest this fabulous pizza....the best food you have ever had. When I see a hurting person I do tell them what worked for me, but I don't hit them over the head with it. If there is a thread on lit like this one I discuss my faith and make no excuses for it. I'm not here plastering all the threads with it. Accepting Christ as my savior is the most important thing I have ever done for my life. Each of us have to find our own way. I have learned a lot on lit from people of other faiths and non-believers in Christ. For my life though I put my trust in Jesus.

Back to pizza...try Giordano's-Chicago Style deep dish...

At about three in the morning at a Waffle House in Tucson I was sitting next to an older man of indeterminate ethnicity. I don't get the impression that it is his practice to proselytize his particular belief system and from what little I was able to glean from a hasty Google after I met him I don't think that that is part of that (sect's?) practice, but as he and I sat and ate in companionable silence, initially, I sensed a hard to define "presense" in him, and as it became clear later he had the same general read on me.

I'm not sure who actually initiated the conversation. I tend to do that quite frequently so it's as likely that I initiated as he but at some point the conversation turned philosophical. He mentioned in much the same way that anyone might discuss the benefits that they have found from yoga or the morning session at the gym or immersing oneself in books, he explained that at a particular time each day and for him it needs to be the same time each day he chants the Hu for 20 minutes. He explained the peace and.centering he gets from the practice. I had to look it up various chants and follow several rabbit holes just now in order to correctly identify him as a follower of Ekanker. That's not particularly important for the story but I felt enriched and enlightened by our exchange and felt it more respectful to correctly identify where he was specifically coming from.

The point to this story is I can't imagine why anyone who had either participated in this exchange door overheard it would find it in the least bit presumptive on his part and anything more than one human being sharing something that brings him peace and joy with another human being for no other reason than and enthusiasm for what has been beneficial for him.

I find that I borrow a lot from a lot of different disciplines, but do so in such an undisciplined way that it's hard to say where I get my personal ideas about what fits together with what on a theological and cosmological basis. One of the things that I've always found in lessly fascinating is the intersectionality of various belief systems. My operating theory is when you find areas where various cultures and belief systems are not in disagreement that's pretty self-evidently a worthwhile, unerversal truth.

I'm always much more impressed with those that are seeking truth and willing to look for it then those that are quite certain that they have found all of it. I'm not at all impressed with people that are quite certain that other people's ancient superstitions and traditions have no societal value. That's silly on its face.

I laugh at the modern intelligencia's hubris at assuming that they invented skepticism. Faith is not blind. Faith is predicated on quite reasonable doubts. Else it is not faith, but mere untested belief. It's strange to me how little these self-important bigots know about the basic thought, logic and discipline that underpins all of philosophy that forms the basis for most everything they believe themselves to be educated about. You don't get to scientific method until you first discovered philosophy..

We live in a society where the vast majority have only an average IQ (because that is how IQ works) and yet most people truly believe that they are not only more intellectually adroit than any contemporary that disagrees with them on any subject, they seem confident that their intellect, knowledge, and understanding of what it means to be human exceeds that of every human that came before.

A smartphone in your hand and Google at the ready does not make you the intellectual equal of a Benedictine monk now, or centuries ago.

Psychologically, part of the necessary growth that humans must go through is a process called differentiation where are they become separate and distinct from their parents. You grow by degrees from being completely physically dependent upon your mother to relying solely on your parents for all emotional and intellectual growth, to branching out to other members of your community and eventually a potential world full of people all of whom are potential sources of knowledge wisdom and experience.

As a child learns to differentiate themselves from their parents as separate and distinct beings with their own drives, interests, and beliefs It's perfectly normal to notice that your parents are idiots. Every single generation has come to that conclusion. Actual wisdom doesn't happen until you realize that you don't have to reject everything that your parents believed that you're allowed to sift the wheat and the chaff to find that although I'm sure they got some things wrong they didn't get everything wrong.

Modern (lack of) thinking assumes that everything in the metaphysical realm from the past was wrong which is ridiculous. Instead of exploring why ancient peoples believed what they believed and what that belief system did for them, "educated" people blow right past everything that made civilization actually civilized versus an endless, selfish quest for autonomy, power and acquisitions. They "know" that religious practices they have never experimented with have no utility.

If you look at the results of this outright rejection of anything larger than self from the metaphysical world, it's pretty hard to argue that there is any net societal Improvement and it's pretty easy to show what how that rejection has been detrimental to society. It's not like we don't have really good data on the self-reported satisfaction levels that people have, that we don't have very good data on familial stability and great correlation for what that portends in terms of truancy, delinquency, substance abuse, economic consequences, and criminality.

Your great-grandfather might have been more skeptical than he publicly seemed, but he had the wisdom to know that some framework for moral development was personally and socially beneficial.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Sadistic barbarism. I suppose you want to drink that blood, too.

Christians are forbidden from drinking blood.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

 

[phrodeau]

Christians are forbidden from drinking blood.

What is the Eucharist then? Are you a transubstantiationist or a consubstantiationist?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

What is the Eucharist then? Are you a transubstantiationist or a consubstantiationist?

No, I do not believe that the wine becomes real blood or the cracker becomes Christ's body. They are merely symbolic. They are also not part of salvation.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Gunman opens fire on Bible-study group outside Minnesota church

https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/gunman-opens-fire-bible-study-group-outside-minnesota-church/

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

I understand what you are saying. I am simply saying that God doesn't make us choose him. We have choices we have to make. We have to decide.

But God DOES make us choose Him. We choose Him by placing our FAITH in Christ.

Hebrews 11:6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Romans 5:2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

CHRISTIAN STUDENTS DENIED RECOGNITION SINCE THEY'RE TOO CHRISTIAN


https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/christian-group-denied-recognition-christian/

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Gunman opens fire on Bible-study group outside Minnesota church

https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/gunman-opens-fire-bible-study-group-outside-minnesota-church/

Why so much hate against Christians?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

What is the Eucharist then? Are you a transubstantiationist or a consubstantiationist?

Jesus said:

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

But THEN after the Disciples were troubled by it, He explained

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

He was explaining a Spiritual truth, not a physical act.

 

[phrodeau]

Christians are forbidden from drinking blood.

Jesus said:

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

But THEN after the Disciples were troubled by it, He explained

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

He was explaining a Spiritual truth, not a physical act.

Tell me, is it forbidden to imagine that you’re drinking blood?

 

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[xfrodobagginsx]

Tell me, is it forbidden to imagine that you’re drinking blood?

I don't see any direct command not to "Imagine" that you are drinking blood. With that said, if you are referring to Communion, it's symbolic of the blood that Christ shed for us on the cross and His body that was broken for us. It's not part of salvation. It is a memorial ceremony.

The first thing you need to worry about is whether you are a child of God or not. Then I would worry about the other stuff.

 

[Tryharder62]

But God DOES make us choose Him. We choose Him by placing our FAITH in Christ.

Hebrews 11:6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Romans 5:2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

If he made us all accept Jesus as our personal savior we would not be having this conversation. He allows us to choose. I understand having faith in Jesus as my savior.

 

[phrodeau]

Jesus said:

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

But THEN after the Disciples were troubled by it, He explained

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

He was explaining a Spiritual truth, not a physical act.

What about those who heard the first part, left the room to throw up, and didn’t hear the second part?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

What about those who heard the first part, left the room to throw up, and didn’t hear the second part?

If they don't stay to hear the entire context, they are responsible for their own faulty doctrine.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

If he made us all accept Jesus as our personal savior we would not be having this conversation. He allows us to choose. I understand having faith in Jesus as my savior.

What I meant by that is that we must choose whether we will serve Him or Not. It's 2 options, not one.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Obama judge blocks state's 'heartbeat' abortion ban

https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/obama-judge-blocks-states-heartbeat-abortion-ban/

 

[Tryharder62]

What I meant by that is that we must choose whether we will serve Him or Not. It's 2 options, not one.

Yes

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

THROUGH THE BIBLE WITH LES FELDICK (LISTEN ONLINE TO 25 MINUTE SEGMENTS):

http://www.lesfeldick.org/

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Please read this first post and vote in the poll.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Please quit bumping your own thread.

Yes, we have read it. Yes, we have voted in the poll.