Ted Lieu plays a clip of Candace Owens' comments on Hitler

[someoneyouknow]

Even though most here don't give a damn, here's the full exchange along with her response.

I like the part where she says no true nationalist would kill their own people.

Because all those nationalists and white supremacists gunning down people at temple or synagogue or church or anywhere, simply because those people weren't white, weren't really nationalists.

Her comment is pretty much the definition of No True Scotsman.

 

[Que]

Poor Luk, the Stoner Yogi.

You begged for my attention and got it. Yay, you!

 

[Luk]

Poor Luk, the Stoner Yogi.

You begged for my attention and got it. Yay, you!

I begged for your attention in a thread I started about white nationalism? Okay.

 

[Que]

Yay, you!

 

[TontoedRanger]

Yes Luke. We know how much you beg for attention.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I begged for your attention in a thread I started about white nationalism? Okay.

Herr Queerbait will ALWAYS stand tall for White Nationalism if he thinks his bro cavalry buddies will back him up

 

[Hal9000_]

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[Que]

Herr Queerbait will ALWAYS stand tall for White Nationalism if he thinks his bro cavalry buddies will back him up

"But...but..I am TALL! That makes me Alpha as FUCK, Goddamit!!!" -Boofy

 

[BotanyBoy]

Stand tall for Nazism, my boy.

Wow, it's almost like there's a large faction in American politics that's perfectly OK with white nationalist violence.

I think there's always been an undercurrent of white nationalist violence in America. Trump's election embiggens these losers to crawl out of the woodwork.

Oh look....a bunch of leftist who have no fucking clue what nationalism, white nationalism or Nazism are.

Shocking.

Hitler was a left wing Liberal Socialist.

No such thing as a liberal socialist....those two ideologies are 100% incompatible.

And Hitler was in no way Liberal, he was highly authoritarian, the opposite of liberal.

 

[Luk]

Herr Queerbait will ALWAYS stand tall for White Nationalism if he thinks his bro cavalry buddies will back him up

What does he have if white nationalism and white privilege doesn't exist?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Herr Queerbait will ALWAYS stand tall for White Nationalism[

Where did he ever do that?

It hasn't been in this thread.

 

[Dribble]

Welp, FULL quote:



It was a comment about the pejorative use of "nationalism" by people going Godwin, not an endorsement of Hitler.

Hitler rounded up Jews and gypsies that lived in Germany. Any Nationalist that believes one race is better than another is an issue. End of story Comrade Que

 

[TontoedRanger]

Hitler rounded up Jews and gypsies that lived in Germany. Any Nationalist that believes one race is better than another is an issue. End of story Comrade Que

Will this thread eventually be converted into Russian lingo to hide from "prying eyes" Comrade?

 

[Que]

Hitler rounded up Jews and gypsies that lived in Germany. Any Nationalist that believes one race is better than another is an issue. End of story Comrade Que

Who would quibble with that? No one is advocating that. Candice Owen's did not advocate that. I have never here, or elsewhere advocated that.

At issue is whether "nationalism" is inherently pejorative, and whether Hitler's vision of global conquest is a necessary component of a nationalistic, my-country-first policy and whether Hitler's predation of German citizens was consistent with a nation-centric policy.

Separatists movements and ethnic cleansing may be concurrent with some nationalist ideologies but they are not synonymous with them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who would quibble with that? No one is advocating that. Candice Owen's did not advocate that. I have never here, or elsewhere advocated that.

At issue is whether "nationalism" is inherently pejorative, and whether Hitler's vision of global conquest is a necessary component of a nationalistic, my-country-first policy and whether Hitler's predation of German citizens was consistent with a nation-centric policy.

Separatists movements and ethnic cleansing may be concurrent with some nationalist ideologies but they are not synonymous with them.

You're talking to uneducated people who have no idea what nationalism is or how it differs from ethno-nationalism or Nazism.

You're pissing up a flagpole of ignorance that will no doubt continue to be willful and persistent as usual with these folks.

 

[TontoedRanger]

Who would quibble with that? No one is advocating that. Candice Owen's did not advocate that. I have never here, or elsewhere advocated that.

At issue is whether "nationalism" is inherently pejorative, and whether Hitler's vision of global conquest is a necessary component of a nationalistic, my-country-first policy and whether Hitler's predation of German citizens was consistent with a nation-centric policy.

Separatists movements and ethnic cleansing may be concurrent with some nationalist ideologies but they are not synonymous with them.

On this particular topic, I believe all persons agree.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Oh look....a bunch of leftist who have no fucking clue what nationalism, white nationalism or Nazism are.

Shocking.

No such thing as a liberal socialist....those two ideologies are 100% incompatible.

And Hitler was in no way Liberal, he was highly authoritarian, the opposite of liberal.

Interesting now that our board Semi-white Nationalist NOW proclaims "liberalism" and "socialism" to be "100% incompatible". One suspects the REAL White Nationalists (NotIsh and NotVette) will take umbrage at that remark.

Side note: whenever GeOdUcK says something positive about liberalism, we know from experience that he's going to redefine "liberalism" once again to it's original out-of-date definition, then proclaim himself to be a "true liberal".

He's not. He's a Semi-White Nationalist Glibertarian.

 

[TontoedRanger]

Interesting now that our board Semi-white Nationalist NOW proclaims "liberalism" and "socialism" to be "100% incompatible". One suspects the REAL White Nationalists (NotIsh and NotVette) will take umbrage at that remark.

Side note: whenever GeOdUcK says something positive about liberalism, we know from experience that he's going to redefine "liberalism" once again to it's original out-of-date definition, then proclaim himself to be a "true liberal".

He's not. He's a Semi-White Nationalist Glibertarian.

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[BotanyBoy]

Interesting now that our board Semi-white Nationalist

Robs dishonesty know no bounds.

Stay mad for getting dragged on your racism and hypocrisy white boy.

NOW proclaims "liberalism" and "socialism" to be "100% incompatible"

.

I've been proclaiming that for years Rob, where have you been?

And it's because it's true.

One suspects the REAL White Nationalists (NotIsh and NotVette) will take umbrage at that remark.

Why would they?

I suspect based on their apparent ability to understand the difference between those two opposing ideologies they would agree with me.

Side note: whenever GeOdUcK says something positive about liberalism, we know from experience that he's going to redefine "liberalism" once again to it's original out-of-date definition, then proclaim himself to be a "true liberal".

He's not. He's a Semi-White Nationalist Glibertarian.

How am I redefining liberalism??? I'm using the academic consensus definition of the word which is no way out of date.

Your ignorance of the topic doesn't make socialism and liberalism compatible ideologies or the actual definitions of the words out of date.

Get an education Rob, you're in desperate need son.

 

[Luk]

She didn't say what she said?

 

[BotanyBoy]

She didn't say what she said?

No....you just can't read worth a shit and are too ignorant of the topic to understand what she said.

She didn't endorse Hitler.

Nationalism =/= ethno-nationalism.

Nationalism =/= racism.

 

[Que]

Interesting now that our board Semi-white Nationalist NOW proclaims "liberalism" and "socialism" to be "100% incompatible". One suspects the REAL White Nationalists (NotIsh and NotVette) will take umbrage at that remark.

Side note: whenever GeOdUcK says something positive about liberalism, we know from experience that he's going to redefine "liberalism" once again to it's original out-of-date definition, then proclaim himself to be a "true liberal".

He's not. He's a Semi-White Nationalist Glibertarian.

When has he ever claimed that liberalism is compatible with socialism? It's not. It's never has been.

Leftist like to co-opt labels. They're the ones redefining terms. They don't get to just make up a new definition for an existing word and stick that label on themselves because they think it sounds catchy.

 

[TontoedRanger]

She didn't say what she said?

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[Que]

She didn't say~sssnippp~

Oh look!

An out of context quote from Luk in support of Candace Owen's not actually saying what she appeared to be saying in her deliberately taken out of context quote.

Well done Luk!

 

[von_Bismarck]

I begged for your attention in a thread I started about white nationalism? Okay.

He White Knighted for a right wing terrorist who murdered tens of innocent civilians. Nothing he says is surprising, anymore.