Editor's note?

[astuffedshirt_perv]

I just published a new story "Emily the Model" where "Emily reluctantly serves as a gynecology and hysteria model."

I posted it in exhib/voy. Emily does not want to be a model but agrees anyway. To my surprise, not only was it posted quickly (3 day turn!), but also had the following added:

Editor's note: this story contains scenes of non-consensual or reluctant sex.

I'd never had an Editor's note inserted before. (BTW there is no actual sex). So is there a new vetting system? Or just an usual event?

Also BTW, have viewer numbers gone up quite a bit?

 

[yukonnights]

I just published a new story "Emily the Model" where "Emily reluctantly serves as a gynecology and hysteria model."

I posted it in exhib/voy. Emily does not want to be a model but agrees anyway. To my surprise, not only was it posted quickly (3 day turn!), but also had the following added:

Editor's note: this story contains scenes of non-consensual or reluctant sex.

I'd never had an Editor's note inserted before. (BTW there is no actual sex). So is there a new vetting system? Or just an usual event?

Also BTW, have viewer numbers gone up quite a bit?

I've had one of mine where that note was attached. There was a mild scene of non-consent that I didn't even think of in those terms since it was a humorous satire piece. But it was there, and Laurel is sensitive to those triggers in readers who have been traumatized in real life. No big deal, and no nothing new. I'll try to remember to add that note myself in the future if it's needed.

 

[KeithD]

Hmm. Interesting. I've never heard of the site appending an ed note before (outside of the celebrity category).

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

Two of my posts have editor’s notes. One is for non-consent in Mind-Control, and one for incest in Group (even though the post didn’t have incest... splitting hairs.)

Like yukonnights already pointed out, it’s probably very necessary to put a disclaimer. But I’m quite OCD and not a fan of the editor notes’ inconsistent language and appearance. I fixed this by simply adding boilerplate before stories: Please be advised this story contains (fill in the blank sex acts).

Laurel leaves the boilerplate as is, and so my stories in Toys, Fetish, Romance, Non-Erotic etc all have the same streamlined look. And hopefully, the boilerplate is saving Laurel time too. Hope this is helpful.

 

[Hypoxia]

My alt wrote an LW story with gay brothers. Laurel appended a "gay content" editor's note. Angry readers said the story should be in GM. But they're a footnote, not the main theme.

I'll have to see if my alt can garner a few more warnings. That's a challenge, hey?

 

[Emirus]

Another editors note.

These links are to two new story published 3/26/19 and 3/27/19 in TS&CD that also has the same editors note on both stories. I haven’t read either story but they are both from a new writer who has probably assumed this is normal procedure as he only joined 3/23/19.

https://www.literotica.com/s/black-vengeance
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-wimp-and-the-beast

Might be of interest to the OP to know they are not alone? Spooky.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Perhaps a new practice to add the Editor's Note rather than move the story to a different category altogether? Not a bad idea - not quite "tags on the first page" but sorta kinda the right idea.

Spoilers, though, with tags on the first page (never thought about that before...).

 

[KeithD]

Perhaps a new practice to add the Editor's Note rather than move the story to a different category altogether? Not a bad idea - not quite "tags on the first page" but sorta kinda the right idea.

Spoilers, though, with tags on the first page (never thought about that before...).

Except as Hypoxia examples, you put GM action in any category but GM, you are going to get slammed for it, ed note or no ed note.

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

Perhaps a new practice to add the Editor's Note rather than move the story to a different category altogether? Not a bad idea - not quite "tags on the first page" but sorta kinda the right idea.

Spoilers, though, with tags on the first page (never thought about that before...).

Spoilerplate instead of boilerplate...

On the other hand, too, I’ve read a couple of works this past week that really should have been in a different category but got around it with the “Spoilerplate” language ....

 

[ElectricBlue]

Except as Hypoxia examples. you put GM action in any category but GM, you are going to get slammed for it, ed note or no ed note.

True, unfortunately. Homophobia seems to go hand-in-hand with the category police, it seems.

 

[Blind_Justice]

True, unfortunately. Homophobia seems to go hand-in-hand with the category police, it seems.

Two of my fantasy stories ("Gheeran" and "Executioner") have m/m scenes and warnings up front and they're doing just fine in SF/F.

Those inserted Editor's notes must be pretty recent. "Twin Suns", posted in late February, has some very non-con/mindfuck stuff in it and it didn't get a note. Maybe Laurel isn't into barbarians...

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

Two of my posts have editor’s notes...

So it is not just me. This implies that Laurel is giving more than a cursory glance over the stories, which makes a 3 day turn even more impressive.

 

[yukonnights]

True, unfortunately. Homophobia seems to go hand-in-hand with the category police, it seems.

As it should be. It's a hard job, thankless and risky...but category police are elite and well trained. EB you very well know that homosexuality is contagious...the merest insidious hint and poof! You turn into a Poof

 

[yukonnights]

Two of my fantasy stories ("Gheeran" and "Executioner") have m/m scenes and warnings up front and they're doing just fine in SF/F.

Those inserted Editor's notes must be pretty recent. "Twin Suns", posted in late February, has some very non-con/mindfuck stuff in it and it didn't get a note. Maybe Laurel isn't into barbarians...

I got my warning ticket in early 2018. So it's been at least a year. More likely it just shows that indeed the stories are reviewed in person and just wasn't noticed. I think it's pretty impressive that the site owners care enough to try to eliminate something that might trigger a reader who has real life non-con trauma. In fact, that editor's note prompted me to put my own trigger warning in a later story. While it may be somewhat of a spoiler, I didn't get any complaints on it.

 

[NotWise]

As it should be. It's a hard job, thankless and risky...but category police are elite and well trained.

Don't forget the truncheons and the hobnail boots.

 

[ElectricBlue]

As it should be. It's a hard job, thankless and risky...but category police are elite and well trained. EB you very well know that homosexuality is contagious...the merest insidious hint and poof! You turn into a Poof

You're as bad (good) as Mr Clearwater. You'll have me writing Canadians next .

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I have inserted Author's Notes at the beginning of my stories when I thought they were necessary to alert the reader to certain things. Like length, no sex, cheating wives, etc.

I have never had Laurel insert one for me.

My last story - Call of the Dove I didn't tell the readers the husband and wife protags were killed in the end. I got some nasty comments, from a lot of readers. Seems they always want happy endings, but real life isn't like that.

 

[yukonnights]

I have inserted Author's Notes at the beginning of my stories when I thought they were necessary to alert the reader to certain things. Like length, no sex, cheating wives, etc.

I have never had Laurel insert one for me.

My last story - Call of the Dove I didn't tell the readers the husband and wife protags were killed in the end. I got some nasty comments, from a lot of readers. Seems they always want happy endings, but real life isn't like that.

There's no way you could put that in a warning up front as it would ruin the story. On a completely different, but related topic; In some reading about improving writing skills recently the topic of "surprise endings" came up. In that article the advice was to never drop a bomb on the reader as they will usually feel cheated/lied to, etc. The point of the discussion was to encourage that we offer appropriate hints that build the tension. Thus, when the bad thing happens the reader feels okay since they 'had a bad feeling' something's going to happen.

Did you give any hints to their death? Just curious and thought it might be interesting to discuss.

 

[Hypoxia]

I have inserted Author's Notes at the beginning of my stories when I thought they were necessary to alert the reader to certain things. Like length, no sex, cheating wives, etc.

I habitually prefix my stories with a disclaimer, list of tags, excuses, etc. But I try to avoid spoilers.

 

[LupusDei]

On stories I read, I most often see editor's note about incest content usually indicating naked family members within eyesight the author may or may not have given any consideration as unusual. In some nudity dominated tales some incestuous tension is natural and perhaps unavoidable, but far from defining theme.

(In regards to categorization, I'm little struggling with this myself: in at least one story seed I have there's unavoidable brother/sister tension that never leads to anything beyond occasional leering on a side branch.)

And I may be mistaken, but I don't think the practice is anywhere recent, unless we talk recent as in several years... Then, if anyone is really interested, perhaps try a search and see what's the oldest that pops up.

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

So it is not just me. This implies that Laurel is giving more than a cursory glance over the stories, which makes a 3 day turn even more impressive.

It’s very impressive! Not only the speed of her turnaround but her memory too. My Group Sex post was a flashback and not incestual, but Laurel’s familiar enough with my series that she included a disclaimer. To me, that speaks volumes about how seriously and carefully she reads everything, and makes me more considerate of her time.

 

[rutger5]

Don't forget the truncheons and the hobnail boots.

Armbands, they need armbands.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

There's no way you could put that in a warning up front as it would ruin the story. On a completely different, but related topic; In some reading about improving writing skills recently the topic of "surprise endings" came up. In that article the advice was to never drop a bomb on the reader as they will usually feel cheated/lied to, etc. The point of the discussion was to encourage that we offer appropriate hints that build the tension. Thus, when the bad thing happens the reader feels okay since they 'had a bad feeling' something's going to happen.

Did you give any hints to their death? Just curious and thought it might be interesting to discuss.

Hints that they would be killed... not really, except there were a number of things that happened where they could have been but they were thwarted. Read it to find out.

 

[Hypoxia]

In some reading about improving writing skills recently the topic of "surprise endings" came up. In that article the advice was to never drop a bomb on the reader as they will usually feel cheated/lied to, etc. The point of the discussion was to encourage that we offer appropriate hints that build the tension. Thus, when the bad thing happens the reader feels okay since they 'had a bad feeling' something's going to happen.

I like twisty O.Henry endings. I like foreshadowing. But if a "bad thing happens" I usually glide on to a sexy bit. The tragic "bad thing" was only to grab tears before returning to stroker mode. Leave the readers panting.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I like twisty O.Henry endings. I like foreshadowing. But if a "bad thing happens" I usually glide on to a sexy bit. The tragic "bad thing" was only to grab tears before returning to stroker mode. Leave the readers panting.

I leave them crying, the death was at the very end. Although the family did get some revenge... in the end.