Blind_Justice
Universe builder
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Well, never mind then. Can be closed thanks to overwhelming responses.
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I don't know if you edited your post or whatever from the original post, but did you give context of what you wanted to collaborate on? What were the rules of the collaboration? What were the expectations and so on. This is essentially a site for people to have some sort of sexual outlet it would seem, so there are not that many people on this type of site that are going to want to discuss your plans with you.
As I don't know if you did any of the above I will just suggest you do those things as a minimum. As an artist who takes commissions there are a number of things I would need to know.
1. What is the project.
2. How big is the project, what are the expected work loads, deadlines, ETC.
3. What is the goal of the project, is it personal or commercial.
4. Do you have a contract set up for licensed use of the artists work?
5. Do you have a budget or are you hoping for free art work?(as you used the word collaboration I assume you expect free art)
6. If you are hoping for free art what is the "hook" for the artist? What are they getting out of it? Other than the joy of drawing pictures for you random internet person.
7. If you are asking for free work up front with a back end payment after you sell the work, what is your business model? Do you have a business plan? What guarantees does the artist have they will get paid, ETC. (again is there a contract)
You can't just say, hey I have a project who wants in? and then expect people to be chomping at the bitt to get involved. If you did all of the above and still no one answered I am guessing they either didn't like the project idea, or the things you had in place.
As an example if you said you wanted to write a comic book about gay unicorns I probably wouldn't want in on it, if it was a comedy comic strip about a busty porn star with a drinking problem, I might be interested in continuing to read. If you said there was no upfront payment, you lose my interest again. If you say there is payment but you don't have a contract about exactly what you are paying me and what you expect from me for that payment, you lose my interest.
Very few artist want to draw other people's ideas, fewer artist want to draw other people's ideas for free. Unless your idea or project was so amazing I simply wanted to be a part of it I wouldn't waste my time.
All that information is free, use it as you wish. Get angry about it, learn from it, dismiss it. It just boggles my mind especially on this website how people think artist have nothing better to do with their time than work for free drawing pictures for people online they don't know. If you find someone willing to do it...become their best friend because they won't come along often, and often they won't be that "good."
All the best for the future.
P.S If you reply to this and I don't I am not being rude, I visit the site like every 6 months if that, or whenever I feel like posting some sketches I doodled, which isn't often in this "field" It's usually only if I am tuning up my anatomy drawing that lends its self to this world.
P.P.S Literotica released a section for artists to post their work in a gallery type environment so I think less and less artists use this section now. You would be better of going to the adult illustrations section, browsing some of the art, if you find an artist you like contact them directly with your offer.
I may be blind, but I'm not stupid. My initial post was - or so I thought - informative and respectful, looking for artists to draw some of the things in my stories for me. I've kept it up for about a month and after receiving zero replies, I took it down, simple as that. Before I wanted to get into prickly details like payments and the like, I wanted to test the waters if anyone was interested in my shit to begin with. No one was, so I closed the topic.
I posted here because this is a site revolving around erotic fiction and so I thought the people frequenting the visual artists forum would be positively disposed towards erotic drawings. I've already tried to get in touch with people on DeviantArt who drew nudes or fantastic art, but again got zero responses so far.
So, in conclusion, people either just don't give a shit or my email writing skills are abysmal. Either way, I'll keep looking.
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Now we know how it works.
Assume that was aimed at me? However I am not sure what you are trying to say? It comes across as semi sarcastic, if it was meant to be, you wasted your time being unhelpful, but thanks for your input have a good day.
If it wasn't meant to be sarcastic, and just reads that way, then thanks for your input have a good day.
So however you meant that message, all the best to you.
Thanks.
It was.
I suspect that your impression of your own "helpfulness" is a bit inflated.
The basic concept of Work for $ is valid.
As you noted, this is NOT a venue for generating money (for members). Your tips will be more helpful when an author or customer is seriously shopping illustration.
I may be blind, but I'm not stupid. My initial post was - or so I thought - informative and respectful, looking for artists to draw some of the things in my stories for me. I've kept it up for about a month and after receiving zero replies, I took it down, simple as that. Before I wanted to get into prickly details like payments and the like, I wanted to test the waters if anyone was interested in my shit to begin with. No one was, so I closed the topic.
I posted here because this is a site revolving around erotic fiction and so I thought the people frequenting the visual artists forum would be positively disposed towards erotic drawings. I've already tried to get in touch with people on DeviantArt who drew nudes or fantastic art, but again got zero responses so far.
So, in conclusion, people either just don't give a shit or my email writing skills are abysmal. Either way, I'll keep looking.
I imagine it was far more helpful than everyone just ignoring the post, but I could be totally wrong on that?
Maybe my helpfulness is not as helpful as I would imagine and that my experience in dealing with such things is not as grand as I may believe it to be...so maybe my impression of my helpfulness is inflated. It has helped other people elsewhere both in getting work and hiring people to work. I concede it may not be helpful here for this person, even if I was the only person to bother to even interact with the post at all.
It is however far more useful than ignoring someone or to do as you have done and been totally worthless and if any thing completely contrary to helpful. I don't believe my impression of you is a single bit inflated though.
As for the last part of what you said, I realised a long time ago that this was not a place to get work which is why I do not frequent here very often, but I am open and honest about why I am here.
This person does seem to be an author who is looking for an artist, from what I can tell? Not seeing the original post I am not 100% sure. If he is not then this may yet still be useful for when they do become serious, or maybe not. Why wait until they are to give them good solid information.
As I said to them the information was free and they can take it or leave it. I was being nice to another human being for no other reason than to be nice and helpful. If they didn't find it helpful, then they wasted some time reading some rubbish, something I am sure happens a lot on this site, especially in this section.
So you clearly have something against someone offering free advice that has nothing to do with you, that being a dick neither helps nor hinders in anyway. You just for some reason felt your voice was needed in this thread like every other one on the board. Why is that exactly? Why would you go and insult someone you don't know for trying to be nice to another human being?I didn't want anything in return, I didn't even care if they didn't reply.
So I think you have an inflated self importance you may want to put in check. If all you are going to do is make stupid and pointless comments that aren't helpful or forwarding a conversation, you are just saying something because you want your opinion heard.
I'll leave you to ponder on that thought.
P.S I afforded you this one reply, I won't bother with another. So you do what you got to do to make yourself feel better about yourself. Write what ever you want in response, don't respond, you just do whatever you like. Just know I will never know what your decision was, but you like "hearing your own voice" so I am sure you won't resist saying something despite being told it is not going to get read.
Well, you are windy, if nothing else.
I am pretty sure that I have been quite helpful, John Snow.
The OP is an author here. If one is at all interested, just look up his stories read some and see if they pique your interest. (I might, when I have a few minutes) if not... well, apparently they did not. And apparently he did not care to wait it out. His choice.
I am so grateful that your advice was free! Thank you! As we all realize now how valuable it is.
Apparently you do care.
Aren't we all saying something, because "we want our opinions to be heard"?
Seriously.
so sad, Jon Snow will never read this. But maybe, just maybe someone will read it??? He said it will "never be read"
(hmmm I wonder who the "Dick head" who writes in this post is????)
OH well.
LAST WORD!!!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!!
It had been read. I can confirm this. Just FYI
Hi my friend