Christchurch and Islamophobia

[srgreene]

Examples please. Put up or shut up.

1960- Richard Daley stuffed the Chicago ballot box with dead voters.

Audits since then have shown many cases of dead people voting.

California ca. 1988: Dem party workers going to institutions where mentally disabled people are institutionalized, registering them and telling them to vote for the donkey, “so they could exercise their constitutional rights”. Yeah right.

 

[My I]

1960- Richard Daley stuffed the Chicago ballot box with dead voters.

Audits since then have shown many cases of dead people voting.

California ca. 1988: Dem party workers going to institutions where mentally disabled people are institutionalized, registering them and telling them to vote for the donkey, “so they could exercise their constitutional rights”. Yeah right.

And now they want to lower the voting age to 16. Ironic isn't it? They want to raise the age for buying tobacco to 21. Guns 21. Driver's licence to 21. Because they aren't responsible under that age.

But they're responsible enough to vote for the people that are brainwashing them in schools.

 

[KimGordon67]

Pocketshaver writes: "liberals despise Christianity because it has actual rules and a moral code you are supposed to follow. EVERYTHING the liberals claim to love are outlawed in the bible. Thus they go against it non stop."

This is true. Liberals claim that they support gay & transgendered rights, whereas Islamic Sharia Law judges such things to be abominations in the eyes of Allah, punishable by death, AND LIBERAL KNOW THIS! The Democratic Party also claims to be in the forefront of promoting & defending women's rights, yet Islamic Sharia Law doesn't see any reason why women should be educated, even forbidding women from learning to read in some countries! Until recently, women in Saudi Arabia couldn't even legally drive themselves in automobiles! AND LIBERALS ALL KNOW THIS!

So WHY is the supposedly liberal (and increasingly pro-atheist) Democratic Party now cozying up to Islam and to the Islamic religion? The answer is actually quite simple: Islamic teachings are vehemently opposed to America's traditional Judeo-Christian morals & values, and modern liberal Democrats SHARE this opposition! And so, if the current freshman-class of House Democrats includes Muslim women who wish to say anti-Semitic remarks, modern liberals will SUPPORT this, even shouting down libs like Chelsea Clinton, who finds such things to be distasteful & offensive!

As for New Zealand stopping tragedies like this recent one, the U.S. Democratic Party's solution is to copy something that they first tried in the city of Chicago, and that's to put up "Gun-Free Zone" signs up in front of all of their mosques. Just because it's failed here doesn't necessarily mean that it's a BAD idea!

You might want to do some research on this - Aotearoa is actually taking decisive action, and fairly promptly.

 

[badbabysitter]

issue is you forget to look at liberal logic.

liberals despise Christianity because it has actual rules and a moral code you are supposed to follow. EVERYTHING the liberals claim to love are outlawed in the bible. Thus they go against it non stop.

absolutely

As a liberal I am opposed to slavery, murdering your children, beating your wife, stoning people to death for stealing, making menstruating women sleep outside their homes, killing pagans

Pretty fucked up you support that

 

[badbabysitter]

Exactly! They both are nihilists who want to destroy Western Civilization. Ok, I would not say that is true of the entire Democrat Party, but it is true of the Left, all of whom, if they are a member of a major political party, are Democrats.

Nihilists don't want to destroy anything, everything is already destroyed to a nihilist

wish people would stop using words they do not understand

 

[Dumpington]

KimGordon67 writes: "You might want to do some research on this - Aotearoa is actually taking decisive action, and fairly promptly."

"Decisive action?" The Democrats who run Chicago took decisive action to end gun violence in that city, and after their strict new anti-gun laws were implemented Chicago quickly became the MURDER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD! The liberal solution is to take guns away from law-abiding gun-owners, and for some reason it HASN'T worked!

I believe that it was Vice President Joe Biden who first came up with the idea of creating "Gun-Free Zones" - and they actually worked at stopping law-abiding gun owners from bringing guns into them. But for some odd reason the criminal element completely ignored them, and continued bringing guns into places like churches, mosques, & schools.

The New Zealand shooter was from Australia, where legal gun-ownership has been all-but-eliminated, yet for some reason the killer got hold of guns and shot up two mosques. So now the anti-gun-violence New Zealanders will end the threat by copying Chicago's methods?

 

[Bray123]

The New Zealand shooter was from Australia, where legal gun-ownership has been all-but-eliminated, yet for some reason the killer got hold of guns and shot up two mosques. So now the anti-gun-violence New Zealanders will end the threat by copying Chicago's methods?

That's right. We have a winner. The massacre was not in Australia where the killer originated and where firearms are restricted.

The killer bought his guns legally in New Zealand and used them in New Zealand.

 

[Dumpington]

Bray123 writes: "The killer bought his guns legally in New Zealand and used them in New Zealand."

Perhaps it's time for New Zealand's prime minister to punish her nation's law-abiding gun owners by taking away their guns? If somebody opens fire on their gathering, somebody can call the police, who will be there in five, ten, or maybe twenty minutes!

Or... she could implement Joe Biden's proven solution, and order "Gun-Free Zone" signs erected in front of every New Zealand mosque, church, school, and movie theater! Christchurch might even become the "Chicago of the southern hemisphere!"

 

[My I]

I have yet to see a JEW that was non white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_American_Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jews_from_the_Arab_world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_Jews

Perhaps you need to actually KNOW something about what you are talking about.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

When will america have its Eggboy?


I do understand that the risks of being shot might be a little too high in the uSA...

Risks?


All of these Politicians either had their Egg Boy or had their Egg Boy plotting against them.

Copied from wiki so I didn't have to type it.

Contents
1 Presidents assassinated
1.1 Abraham Lincoln
1.2 James A. Garfield
1.3 William McKinley
1.4 John F. Kennedy

2 Assassination attempts and plots
2.1 Andrew Jackson
2.2 Abraham Lincoln
2.3 William Howard Taft
2.4 Theodore Roosevelt
2.5 Herbert Hoover
2.6 Franklin D. Roosevelt
2.7 Harry S. Truman
2.8 John F. Kennedy
2.9 Richard Nixon
2.10 Gerald Ford
2.11 Jimmy Carter
2.12 Ronald Reagan
2.13 George H. W. Bush
2.14 Bill Clinton
2.15 George W. Bush
2.16 Barack Obama
2.17 Donald Trump

3 Deaths rumored to be assassinations
3.1 Zachary Taylor
3.2 Warren G. Harding

 

[Bray123]

Bray123 writes: "The killer bought his guns legally in New Zealand and used them in New Zealand."

Perhaps it's time for New Zealand's prime minister to punish her nation's law-abiding gun owners by taking away their guns? If somebody opens fire on their gathering, somebody can call the police, who will be there in five, ten, or maybe twenty minutes!

Or... she could implement Joe Biden's proven solution, and order "Gun-Free Zone" signs erected in front of every New Zealand mosque, church, school, and movie theater! Christchurch might even become the "Chicago of the southern hemisphere!"

Well make up your mind.

Either Australian gun laws are working thereby forcing a would-be murderer to go to a foreign country to obtain weapons and commit the crime or they are not.

The USA has never had effective gun legislation. The laws that you do have in certain areas would be laughed at in many countries of the world. And yes, sticking up a notice 20yds from a gun shop declaring a gun-free zone is a waste of paper.

 

[KimGordon67]

KimGordon67 writes: "You might want to do some research on this - Aotearoa is actually taking decisive action, and fairly promptly."

"Decisive action?" The Democrats who run Chicago took decisive action to end gun violence in that city, and after their strict new anti-gun laws were implemented Chicago quickly became the MURDER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD! The liberal solution is to take guns away from law-abiding gun-owners, and for some reason it HASN'T worked!

I believe that it was Vice President Joe Biden who first came up with the idea of creating "Gun-Free Zones" - and they actually worked at stopping law-abiding gun owners from bringing guns into them. But for some odd reason the criminal element completely ignored them, and continued bringing guns into places like churches, mosques, & schools.

The New Zealand shooter was from Australia, where legal gun-ownership has been all-but-eliminated, yet for some reason the killer got hold of guns and shot up two mosques. So now the anti-gun-violence New Zealanders will end the threat by copying Chicago's methods?

He got hold of the guns in New Zealand. Hence the tightening of the laws.

 

[Dumpington]

Bray123 writes: "Either Australian gun laws are working thereby forcing a would-be murderer to go to a foreign country to obtain weapons and commit the crime or they are not."

Are Chicago's gun laws working? They're VERY STRICT, I'm told! And those "Gun-Free Zone" signs are just stupid!

KimGordon67 writes: "He got hold of the guns in New Zealand. Hence the tightening of the laws."

I hope that New Zealand's law-abiding gun owners aren't the one's punished, because criminals (like this murderer from Australia) won't obey any "tightening of the laws." And violent killers will always find other ways to murder innocent people, a couple of examples including:

1) The 9/11 Muslim hijackers murdering thousands of innocent Americans using passenger jets!
2) Islamic terrorists in Europe (and the U.S.) have been known to drive large trucks and even cars into crowds of people, and also to slash at innocent bystanders with knives!

 

[KimGordon67]

Bray123 writes: "Either Australian gun laws are working thereby forcing a would-be murderer to go to a foreign country to obtain weapons and commit the crime or they are not."

Are Chicago's gun laws working? They're VERY STRICT, I'm told! And those "Gun-Free Zone" signs are just stupid!

KimGordon67 writes: "He got hold of the guns in New Zealand. Hence the tightening of the laws."

I hope that New Zealand's law-abiding gun owners aren't the one's punished, because criminals (like this murderer from Australia) won't obey any "tightening of the laws." And violent killers will always find other ways to murder innocent people, a couple of examples including:

1) The 9/11 Muslim hijackers murdering thousands of innocent Americans using passenger jets!
2) Islamic terrorists in Europe (and the U.S.) have been known to drive large trucks and even cars into crowds of people, and also to slash at innocent bystanders with knives!

My understanding is that he was within the law. Tighter laws quite probably would have resulted in a different outcome. The fact that he came here, instead of acting in Australia tends to suggest that he was, in part, looking for somewhere where guns are more accessible.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

My understanding is that he was within the law. Tighter laws quite probably would have resulted in a different outcome. The fact that he came here, instead of acting in Australia tends to suggest that he was, in part, looking for somewhere where guns are more accessible.

From the Manifesto (He writes a question he thinks may be asked, and then he answers it.)


Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van.
Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.
The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state,
social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.
This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic
polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing
of the US along cultural and racial lines.

Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New
Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained, but I soon found
out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere
else in the West.
Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of
the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the
invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world
and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass
immigration.

 

[KimGordon67]

From the Manifesto (He writes a question he thinks may be asked, and then he answers it.)


Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van.
Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.
The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state,
social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.
This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic
polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing
of the US along cultural and racial lines.

Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New
Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained, but I soon found
out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere
else in the West.
Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of
the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the
invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world
and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass
immigration.

Nobody here really cares that much about what he said in this pile of crap (other than that it proves how utterly deluded he was ... Aotearoa is 'his land'? Give me a break). You're the only person I know who's poring over his incoherent ramblings ... and watching his videos. You can 'rationalise' it all you want, but clearly it's porn for you.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

Nobody here really cares that much about what he said in this pile of crap (other than that it proves how utterly deluded he was ... Aotearoa is 'his land'? Give me a break). You're the only person I know who's poring over his incoherent ramblings ... and watching his videos. You can 'rationalise' it all you want, but clearly it's porn for you.

So, you'd rather believe what you want to believe? That's no way to get rid of a problem.

I'm not going out of my way to prove you wrong, I'm giving you the reasons he presented so that you can have a better understanding of what was going through his head.

If you want to make up your own reasons, then you have no credibility in any conversation you have.

I haven't read his "ramblings" but his Q & A with himself is straightforward. He might not be the ideal author for a written ideology, but dismissing his views as ramblings is based on fear, and that won't make him or others like him go away.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

You can 'rationalise' it all you want, but clearly it's porn for you.

So, when you don't get your way or someone doesn't share your views, you attack. That's undignified, and childish. Continue living in your hole while the rest of the world tries to change things for the better.

 

[KimGordon67]

So, you'd rather believe what you want to believe? That's no way to get rid of a problem.

I'm not going out of my way to prove you wrong, I'm giving you the reasons he presented so that you can have a better understanding of what was going through his head.

If you want to make up your own reasons, then you have no credibility in any conversation you have.

I haven't read his "ramblings" but his Q & A with himself is straightforward. He might not be the ideal author for a written ideology, but dismissing his views as ramblings is based on fear, and that won't make him or others like him go away.

No, I'd rather believe the facts. He accessed guns too easily, and the end result is fairly clear.
I'm not dismissing his views because of 'fear', and neither is any other New Zealander. He quite clearly wrote that garbage with the intention of gaining notoriety, and to have people pore over it searching for meaning. I, and many other New Zealanders, would prefer to not give him that satisfaction. His views are clear enough.
I'm really just repeating myself here. If you didn't get the point the first time I made, I doubt you will now. If you want get a hard on reading over this stuff, and watching his videos, go for it. Most of us have chosen to focus on other things.

 

[KimGordon67]

So, when you don't get your way or someone doesn't share your views, you attack. That's undignified, and childish. Continue living in your hole while the rest of the world tries to change things for the better.

Goodoh.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

No, I'd rather believe the facts. He accessed guns too easily, and the end result is fairly clear.
I'm not dismissing his views because of 'fear', and neither is any other New Zealander. He quite clearly wrote that garbage with the intention of gaining notoriety, and to have people pore over it searching for meaning. I, and many other New Zealanders, would prefer to not give him that satisfaction. His views are clear enough.
I'm really just repeating myself here. If you didn't get the point the first time I made, I doubt you will now. If you want get a hard on reading over this stuff, and watching his videos, go for it. Most of us have chosen to focus on other things.

His reasoning has nothing to do with your points, that's the point.

 

[KimGordon67]

His reasoning has nothing to do with your points, that's the point.

I think calling it 'reasoning' is stretching things a little.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

My understanding is that he was within the law. Tighter laws quite probably would have resulted in a different outcome. The fact that he came here, instead of acting in Australia tends to suggest that he was, in part, looking for somewhere where guns are more accessible.

From the Manifesto (He writes a question he thinks may be asked, and then he answers it.)


Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van.
Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states .....

Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack...

Anyone else who wants to read the rest, can, no need for the entire quote.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

I think calling it 'reasoning' is stretching things a little.

His reasoning or his insanity, there is a why to it. You scoff, but critical thinkers look deeper.

 

[KimGordon67]

Anyone else who can read the rest, can.

If you want to assume this delusional piece of writing is actually true, and there's no other explanations for anything that happened, it's up to you.